Urgent PMM pls help or any other experts help..

[hansiescorpian]

Hi all..

I am an Indian citizen..i went to New Zealand in 2002 on a study visa..i didn't happen to do my studies properly due to personal reasons(grandmother passed away during my stay in nz) even though i was an A+ student in India..unintentionally i happened to overstay in NewZealand..my passport was stolen by my landlady..i did lodged a complaint with the local police authorities..as a result i was given a copy of the lost/stolen report by the police..i than contacted the immigration authorities in Auckland notifying them about my lost passport.They told me that my visa has expired and i need to go back.I was 19 back than and was very immature and didn't wanted to disappoint my parents.I decided to stay back as my parents had spent heaps of money on my studies.

Well i came back in Sep. 2006.Since than i have worked with MNC's in India.Feb. 2011 i got married to an open work permit holder who now resides in Canada.Just got the news my wife is 10 weeks pregnant..should i attach the medical certificate confirming her pregnancy?? will this help for me obtaining an OPW??

I now want to know that my overstaying in NZ will this have any effect on my case as i wish to apply for an open work permit for Canada to join my spouse??Her job category falls under skill category B.i don't have any criminal record in NZ.

And how do i fill an open work permit application??because it does asks the applicant if the applicant have been sent back from any country and if the applicant has stayed in country apart from the country of residence in the last 5 years for a period of over six months..what should i fill in these questions???should i be honest and mention my overstaying experience of NZ..will this affect my case??


Experts pls help..

i shall be thankfull..

 

[PMM]

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Hi all..

I am an Indian citizen..i went to New Zealand in 2002 on a study visa..i didn't happen to do my studies properly due to personal reasons(grandmother passed away during my stay in nz) even though i was an A+ student in India..unintentionally i happened to overstay in NewZealand..my passport was stolen by my landlady..i did lodged a complaint with the local police authorities..as a result i was given a copy of the lost/stolen report by the police..i than contacted the immigration authorities in Auckland notifying them about my lost passport.They told me that my visa has expired and i need to go back.I was 19 back than and was very immature and didn't wanted to disappoint my parents.I decided to stay back as my parents had spent heaps of money on my studies.

Well i came back in Sep. 2006.Since than i have worked with MNC's in India.Feb. 2011 i got married to an open work permit holder who now resides in Canada.Just got the news my wife is 10 weeks pregnant..should i attach the medical certificate confirming her pregnancy?? will this help for me obtaining an OPW??

I now want to know that my overstaying in NZ will this have any effect on my case as i wish to apply for an open work permit for Canada to join my spouse??Her job category falls under skill category B.i don't have any criminal record in NZ.

And how do i fill an open work permit application??because it does asks the applicant if the applicant have been sent back from any country and if the applicant has stayed in country apart from the country of residence in the last 5 years for a period of over six months..what should i fill in these questions???should i be honest and mention my overstaying experience of NZ..will this affect my case??


Experts pls help..

i shall be thankfull..
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It will have a very large effect on your application, I think that CHC will take the attitude that you didn't obey the Immigration rules in NZ so it is quite likely that you won't obey Canadian Immigration laws. You better be honest, since Canada does share Immigration information with other countries.

 

[hansiescorpian]

Hi PMM..thanks for the reply..

I do understand i didn't do good during my stay in NZ..but seriously i ws kinda immature back than..didn't knew what to do..but its been nearly 5 years now since i have been back from NZ and i have done good in India-with the jobs and stuff..

Won't CHC consider that my wife is pregnant ans she is advised by the medical officer that she can't do the air travel..me being a spouse i need to be with her..i would definitely be honest with the information i would provide to CHC..

Could you give me the best suggestion how could i go to Canada? on what basis??

Thanks PMM..or any other members..

 

[angelbrat]

Hi PMM..thanks for the reply..

I do understand i didn't do good during my stay in NZ..but seriously i ws kinda immature back than..didn't knew what to do..but its been nearly 5 years now since i have been back from NZ and i have done good in India-with the jobs and stuff..

Won't CHC consider that my wife is pregnant ans she is advised by the medical officer that she can't do the air travel..me being a spouse i need to be with her..i would definitely be honest with the information i would provide to CHC..

Could you give me the best suggestion how could i go to Canada? on what basis??

Thanks PMM..or any other members..

Agrees with PMM.....I doubt that CIC will have any sympathy with you. Your wife getting pregnant was your choice, Canada did not force the pregnancy. Therefore, why should Canada risk allowing someone into the Country that has already proven to have disregard for a Countries immigration rules.

Immaturity or not, what you did in NZ was criminal and you knew it. You do not sound stupid, so you knew exactly what you were doing at the time.

Funny how life tends to come back and bite ya in the ass.

 

[hansiescorpian]

Thanks for the silly comment @ angelbrat..what r u a racist maybe??...lolz neva mind..but going to Canada is not the end of this world..i am working as a Senior Manager with Barclays Bank..and get paid more than you ever will..am doing good enough in India..and we didn't plan our kid..it just happened..so what u suggest go for abortion what most people do in Canada..People are doing great in the land where i am from..i aint desperate to go to
Canada but my wife's pregnancy is the only factor i want to be with her..and she is a Chartered accountant..paying taxes to the land where u @ angelbrat belong to..so we r contributing to Canada's economy..

and talk about crime..what crime?..shit happens..happens with everyone..somebody famously said " to err is human"..so who am i?I paid the removal costs in full amounting to 10,000 NZ dollars to the NZ immigration as soon as i landed in India..i am talking about 2006 here..life moves on..people change..people learn from their mistakes..and i have big time..i mucked up in NZ coz ws a big cultural shock for me..jus couldn't cop in there..but yes i have grown up with time..and a recent letter from NZ high commission stating i am allowed to go back to NZ if i apply for a Visa..

I need advise from experts not fools..no kido's..no immatures..no racists.. plzzzzz..Peace!!!

So any experts plz holla back..

 

[scylla]

The two people who replied to you are experts. (Especially PMM. PMM is probably THE top expert on this board.)

No one is being racist. They're simply providing you with a realistic and honest assessment of what will likely happen if you apply.

You can certainly still apply and see what happens (maybe you'll get lucky). However be honest about your overstay in NZ and don't lie or misrepresent this part of your life. Misrepresenting this information will place you in even a worst position than you are now.

 

[hansiescorpian]

Thanks for the reply @ Scylla..well i am not gonna hide anything..

I have already made affidavits( one from my dad who is a senior bank manager undertaking full responsibilty including all the costs of my stay in canada) and one from me) stating of my full intentions to come back to the home country if granted a visa before the stipulated time period of the visa.

Could you tell me what all documents could i attach with the application for the open work permit to strenghten my case??

and how to fill in the open work permit application??

and one more thing once my wife applies for PR..will i than be eligible to join her in Canada?? coz she will be filing under Canadian experience class..and she is just 7-8 months away from filing her PR..will there be any problems than for me or for my wife??

Experts please comment..PMM if u could..thanks bro..

 

[scylla]

Any questions you have about the Canadian Experience Class should be posted to the CEC section of this web site:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/canadian-experience-class-b52.0/

Unfortunatley I don't have any experience completing an OWP application. However to show strong ties to your home country, you should include documents such as: property ownership, lease agreements, bank accounts, etc.

 

[angelbrat]

I certainly was not being racist, I had no idea what country you came from. I was replying to you in a way that CIC will look at your application and trying to show you how it will be perceived.

Sorry if you did not understand the humor, sometimes British humor goes well over most peoples heads.

Anyway, I hope you now see the situation you are in. Whilst trying to get a visitor visa is hard, with your background it is going to be even harder. What others have already said.....evidence.....and more evidence and even more evidence that you have no intention of overstaying your visa to Canada.

As for the part about earning more than I ever will.....well good for you...I am happy for you and I wish you continued success in your chosen career.

 

[angelbrat]

The two people who replied to you are experts. (Especially PMM. PMM is probably THE top expert on this board.)

No one is being racist. They're simply providing you with a realistic and honest assessment of what will likely happen if you apply.

You can certainly still apply and see what happens (maybe you'll get lucky). However be honest about your overstay in NZ and don't lie or misrepresent this part of your life. Misrepresenting this information will place you in even a worst position than you are now.

Thank you but for the record I am no expert...... ;D Whilst PMM is God on this forum, I am just a humble servant..... ;D

However, I do like to answer questions honestly and try to show people how CIC will perceive their applications etc. Sometimes though, people do not want honest answers, and therefore get their 'panties in a wad' with some of my reply's.

And by the way....I think you are way more of an expert than me....your forum reply's are excellent and informative.

 

[rjessome]

@hansiescorpion: So you got a reply that you didn't like and pull out the "race card"? And then you go on to insult people living in Canada? Is that how you would react if a Canadian Visa Officer refused you for all of the reasons angelbrat gave? Life's rough buddy, wear a helmet.

Bottom line is that PMM is right and it will be taken seriously and a TRV very likely refused based on your past immigration history. Whether you like it or not, CIC doesn't CARE that you were young and immature back then. 5 years is like yesterday in CIC's world. That's a fact. You would have to have rock solid proof of your intention to return to India and even then, I wouldn't give you much of a chance at success for a TRV. Sure everybody makes mistakes in their lives. There a plenty of people on these boards who are now realizing just how much those mistakes impact their ability to enter Canada. The complete quote is, "to err is human, to forgive divine." CIC has no interest in divinity.

On the flip side (and the bright side for you), when your wife applies for PR and includes you in her application, your overstay in NZ will not hurt you because your intention is to become a PERMANENT resident of Canada, not temporary like above. But as PMM said, you MUST admit your overstay no matter what kind of visa you apply for because Canada and NZ do share information for immigration purposes. If you don't admit it and they find out, that's misrepresentation and you don't want to deal with those consequences.

 

[hansiescorpian]

Mate thanks for the reply..i replied to the way i was given a reply..even if was being told the facts..there's a way to say things..there's a big difference in the way u replied and the way angelbrat replied..so lets cut it out..all gd now..all i can do is try..give more and more evidence..i have just found out that my wife's pregnant..else i would have never thought of applying for a TRV..i was gonna wait for her PR application to be filed..

Just tell me one thing..my dad's declared in one of the affidavit's attached with my application..that i got his full support...say financially..shown his documents of movable and immovable properties..shown i live with him and has shown about his property..his job and his support for me..will this help..i have attached an affidavit stating that i will definitely return back to my home country before the stipulated Visa time..

Wat else can i attach to make my case a lil worth it..

Thanks..

 

[rjessome]

The VO reviewing your file is not concerned about your father. He's not applying to go to Canada, you are. So it's great that you will have financial support BUT that doesn't mean you won't overstay. What you need to provide is proof that you won't stay longer than you are requesting. This can be done in the form of an employment letter (you are given leave for X amount of time but are expected back to work), proof of assets in India, etc. You have an uphill battle because there is discretion involved as well. Look, it won't hurt you to apply (as long as you are honest on the application) and you may even get extremely lucky but I wouldn't get your hopes up. You may as well try given that your wife is on an OWP and pregnant. Make sure you include proof of that as well.

 

[hansiescorpian]

Thanks for the reply..i am applying for an OPW..and my wife's one expires in Sep.'13.

So if i am granted a visa it will have the same stipulated time as my wife's..

No company will give me a leave till 2013. and i live with my dad only.I have helped him financially in buy a car and making the house.I am the only son and he is willing to put the property under my name..but itz but understood my dad's property is mine..thats how it happens in India..and Immigration officers r well aware of the indian culture..

And if i attach my wife's pregnancy related documents won't they feel if i happen to go to Canada than my wife will be dependent on me(coz of her pregnancy), but the case shows me going to Canada depending on her even though i have sufficient funds of my own..??

Should i attach my wife's pregnancy documents or not??

Thanks..

 

[hansiescorpian]

Urgent PMM or rjessome pls help or any other experts help..

Thanks for the reply @ rjessome..i am applying for an OPW..and my wife's one expires in Sep.'13.

So if i am granted a visa it will have the same stipulated time as my wife's..

No company will give me a leave till 2013. and i live with my dad only.I have helped him financially in buy a car and making the house.I am the only son and he is willing to put the property under my name..but itz but understood my dad's property is mine..thats how it happens in India..and Immigration officers r well aware of the indian culture..

And if i attach my wife's pregnancy related documents won't they feel if i happen to go to Canada than my wife will be dependent on me(coz of her pregnancy), but the case shows me going to Canada depending on her even though i have sufficient funds of my own..??

Should i attach my wife's pregnancy documents or not??

Thanks..