URGENT!!.. I got the GCMS Information, please help us!

[ArlJam]

Hello everyone,
We just got the GCMS Information, and I want to find out about a huge worry that I got from that notes.
Firstly let me show you some parts from the notes and I will include my questions into it and hopefully get an answers!

MEDICAL:
Status: In progress
Updated Date: 2013/06/..
Due date: 2014/06/..
IME Status: Not Started
MOF Rationale Exists: NO


Question 1; about Medical Results: until before we got these GCMS we was thinking that my Medical file was lost when the doctor sent it via post, because it has been about 9 months now since I done my medical check and I never heard that Medical Results Received because ECAS still only shows that the Application Received. So depending on the GCMS when it says the Medical Status is ‘’In Progress’’ and also Due Date talks about 2014, that is means that my medical wasn’t lost and so it is in safe now in embassy?

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FINALIZE APPLICATION:
Document Issuance: 0
Refusal Grounds: 0

Question 2; does ‘’Refusal Grounds’’ means until right now when we got the GCMS there is no refusal reasons for them about to give a visa so far or what ?

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Paper File (and its history):
Paper File: 1
Updated Date: 2013/Oct/.. (As I can see, this is the last date time that my application was updated in)
Primary: Y
Location: Interview Shelf
Status: Open
FOSS: N

Question 3; رcan you please explain to me this information about ‘’Paper File’’? Does our application now is in the final stage and so it’s only waiting for the VO to call me for an interview?

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NOTES (we are now on the worst part of GCMS and this is what made us very sad and very worried :'( ):

NOTES: 1
Updated Date: 2013/Oct/..
Created by: …………
Restricted: No

Text : File review, many photos of sponsor with principal applicant, but they do not look compatible (OMG), no marriage celebration either, with excuse that the sponsor is too shy to celebrate in front of people and will do ceremony in Canada with her family once principal applicant gets there. Receipts and many pages of electronic communication provided. Along with telephone bills and calling cards.
Conclusion: the file is well documented and sponsor has made 5 trips to Morocco.

Question 4; in reality, my wife she is very very shy person, her big shyness was the BIG REAL cause of why we didn’t have a wedding celebration in Morocco and so I just respected that because I can’t force her to do something that she doesn’t feel comfortable with and so we planned to have a wedding ceremony once I am in Canada with her so at that time she will be around her family and friends and there will be no shyness for her and so she will be so comfortable. We did say this to the immigration on forms and a letter that we wrote about our relationship history that we didn’t have a wedding ceremony in Morocco it is because my wife she is very shy etc etc so at least the immigration now does know the reason and the response of why we didn’t have a wedding ceremony in Morocco. IF we did do a celebration now, after we go the GCMS notes ... would it seem like we only want a visa because we read about the red flag in the notes?

NOTE : we did include a HUGE of PROOFS it was a very big application that we sent, and she has visited me 5 times and she will visit me again soon. So I don’t know if the VO will get the decision from that NOTES TEXT or what exactly?

I am very sorry to write long, but really we are very worried right now and we feel like the decision has been made even before the interview.

PLEASE guys, advice us of what we should/can do? And what we shouldn’t do?

THANKS a lot for all your favorable responses.

 

[CDAN]

Would it be beneficial to get gmcs notes?

Can someone help as to what they do

 

[jomz]

Salam alikom ArlJam. I just happened to read your post and even though I have not applied yet for my husband's sponsorship wanted and have not been through all of the process as of yet I wanted to share my opinion on what you should or shouldn't do. For one at this stage I really would not go through a wedding ceremony, when you are interviewed I would stand by what you and your wife said before (that she is a private person and very shy and having a wedding prepared by someone else without much input on her part is not what she wants to remember her wedding by) and that yes you do plan on having a small wedding reception with her family at her side. I would be very honest with the VO, and tell them that you and your wife realize that this may become an issue but you took that chance because in the end it is all about you and your wife's feelings and not about making the VO less suspicious. You may want to say something like this very gently.

Also I have the feeling that the Conclusion Notes: at the bottom is what will matter. "Conclusion: the file is well documented and sponsor has made 5 trips to Morocco." Inchallah you will have some good news to share soon. May Allah protect you and your wife.

Asiya

 

[ArlJam]

Would it be beneficial to get gmcs notes?

Can someone help as to what they do

the GCMS notes ... they are notes that they make regarding your file. Even if they didn't update e-cas yet, they may contain information regarding where your file is in the process, or made notes about other things such as your pics, your proof, etc. etc. ... it does give you a better idea as to which stage your file is in.

you have to send in a request along with a consent form that your husband/wife has to sign ... they will accept a scanned document, so have your husband/wife print it out and sign it then scan it to you ... then you sign it and scan it to submit it ... it costs $5 and takes about 30 days for you to receive them.

 

[ArlJam]

Salam alikom ArlJam. I just happened to read your post and even though I have not applied yet for my husband's sponsorship wanted and have not been through all of the process as of yet I wanted to share my opinion on what you should or shouldn't do. For one at this stage I really would not go through a wedding ceremony, when you are interviewed I would stand by what you and your wife said before (that she is a private person and very shy and having a wedding prepared by someone else without much input on her part is not what she wants to remember her wedding by) and that yes you do plan on having a small wedding reception with her family at her side. I would be very honest with the VO, and tell them that you and your wife realize that this may become an issue but you took that chance because in the end it is all about you and your wife's feelings and not about making the VO less suspicious. You may want to say something like this very gently.

Also I have the feeling that the Conclusion Notes: at the bottom is what will matter. "Conclusion: the file is well documented and sponsor has made 5 trips to Morocco." Inchallah you will have some good news to share soon. May Allah protect you and your wife.

Asiya

Waalikum Salam Asiya,

thank you sister for your post, and yes i have same feelings and so i am planning to only focus about that so hopefully they understand that even without immigration so many couples don't do a wedding ceremony for some reasons, and our reason is the shyness of my wife. by the way, i really love how shy she is because it is a very sweet feelings you get them among shy ppl and her shyness does making me loving her even more and she knows that.

if you or your husband need any help about anything about the application, don't hesitate to ask me.

May Allah bring us all happiness, good luck for you as well sister!.

 

[mikeymyke]

Is it ok if you post a couple pictures of you and your wife? The part where they say you don't look compatible sounds like total bs, unless one of you is a very old man, and the other is a teenager.

Don't worry so much about the red flags they pointed out. They did note you travelled 5 times to Morocco and you had lots of proofs and communication. Almost everyone has at least a red flag or two, and as long as you're confident about your relationship, you should prevail in the interview.

 

[ArlJam]

Is it ok if you post a couple pictures of you and your wife? The part where they say you don't look compatible sounds like total bs, unless one of you is a very old man, and the other is a teenager.

Don't worry so much about the red flags they pointed out. They did note you travelled 5 times to Morocco and you had lots of proofs and communication. Almost everyone has at least a red flag or two, and as long as you're confident about your relationship, you should prevail in the interview.

none of us is old, we both are young (both of us are youth). i think the reason of why they said that we don't look compatible it is maybe because we didn't send in a romantic pictures.

thank you for your post, and good luck to you as well!

 

[jomz]

Waalikum Salam Asiya,

thank you sister for your post, and yes i have same feelings and so i am planning to only focus about that so hopefully they understand that even without immigration so many couples don't do a wedding ceremony for some reasons, and our reason is the shyness of my wife. by the way, i really love how shy she is because it is a very sweet feelings you get them among shy ppl and her shyness does making me loving her even more and she knows that.

if you or your husband need any help about anything about the application, don't hesitate to ask me.

May Allah bring us all happiness, good luck for you as well sister!.

Trust Allah in all of this, he knows what is best for us. And your thoughts on this are very good. I know it is unfair for people who have no real knowledge of you to judge you. Are there any other major differences that they can bring up in your interview? ie age difference, religion?

 

[mikeymyke]

The VO does have a point about one thing, saying she won't do marriage ceremony until she comes to Canada because she's shy in front of lots of people, it does seem (even if it's not true) suspicious that it would appear she's only interest in coming to Canada and doesn't want a celebration because she doesn't want people to know about this marriage. I've read this a lot in previous refusal cases.

The compatibility thing, I've read in some refusal cases, where they indicate incompatibility results from couples not looking happy together, just doing simple generic poses, not laughing, smiling, not looking like they're enjoying each other's company. I've read in one case where one of the red flags was in their wedding pics, the Canadian sponsor smiles, but the applicant did not smile, and didn't seem happy with the marriage.

If we can't see the pics, can you at least describe what they mostly look like in general? You guys don't smile? Don't hold hands, or hug one another, or lean on each other's shoulder? etc.

Just be prepared to answer those questions in the interview.

 

[jomz]

Is it ok if you post a couple pictures of you and your wife? The part where they say you don't look compatible sounds like total bs, unless one of you is a very old man, and the other is a teenager.

Don't worry so much about the red flags they pointed out. They did note you travelled 5 times to Morocco and you had lots of proofs and communication. Almost everyone has at least a red flag or two, and as long as you're confident about your relationship, you should prevail in the interview.

mikeymike this sometimes is not true that one is old and the other is not. For example in my case I am not submitting a lot of photos of me and my husband (some very goofy showing really how very comfortable we are with each other) as when they were taken we were at home and in which photos I am not wearing hijab. So it may be a strike against us as well. I will be sending an explanation as to why, and if at time of interview they would like to see additional photos my husband will bring them however they can only be seen by a VO who is a woman.

 

[mikeymyke]

you cannot show those pics because of your religion right? it forbids strangers from looking at your face without hijab?

 

[ArlJam]

Trust Allah in all of this, he knows what is best for us. And your thoughts on this are very good. I know it is unfair for people who have no real knowledge of you to judge you. Are there any other major differences that they can bring up in your interview? ie age difference, religion?

your right sister, trusting Allah is everything we have.. and what God bring us is welcome.

yes we have 10 years difference and religion difference, but we believe that this is not a very big deal because we know many cases whom are worse than us and still they did succeed.

 

[jomz]

you cannot show those pics because of your religion right? it forbids strangers from looking at your face without hijab?

Hijab means to cover all except hands and face. And I can show to all woman and men who are my mahrams (my husband, my brother my father in law) So yes you can see my face. Basically I will not send photos of me wearing a tank top and shorts with my hair uncovered.

 

[jomz]

don't worry too much inchallah all will be ok. I will make doaa for you and your wife. I think bottom line and the positive is the conclusion in the file. Where in Canada does your wife live? I am in Calgary. Is your wife on this forum too?

 

[ArlJam]

The VO does have a point about one thing, saying she won't do marriage ceremony until she comes to Canada because she's shy in front of lots of people, it does seem (even if it's not true) suspicious that it would appear she's only interest in coming to Canada and doesn't want a celebration because she doesn't want people to know about this marriage. I've read this a lot in previous refusal cases.

The compatibility thing, I've read in some refusal cases, where they indicate incompatibility results from couples not looking happy together, just doing simple generic poses, not laughing, smiling, not looking like they're enjoying each other's company. I've read in one case where one of the red flags was in their wedding pics, the Canadian sponsor smiles, but the applicant did not smile, and didn't seem happy with the marriage.

If we can't see the pics, can you at least describe what they mostly look like in general? You guys don't smile? Don't hold hands, or hug one another, or lean on each other's shoulder? etc.

Just be prepared to answer those questions in the interview.

yes you are right brother, we did some of what you've said except we don't smile much on our pictures. me and my wife did talk about this already and we knew it can be an issue for us with the VO, but really we are both are so very spontaneous with each other and we don't do fake things just for to get a visa. we already know that some things may cose us problems with the VO but still we followed our real personality and how we are in the real ground and we don't try to fake things, and the most important is we are very serious and our relation is very genuine without painting it.

and about the wedding ceremony, we mentioned on the forms and a letter that beside how shy she is to have a wedding ceremony no one from her family or friends was able to attend it so she can at least have someone from Canada attending the wedding so she won't be that uncomfortable or that too shy.

thank you brother for your post!