Urgent Help: Wife unable to come

[ajawfer]

Hi everyone,

Once our PR application was approved, we received the good news of my wife being pregnant. Now she will be unable to come with me to Canada. For now, we have not received the Visa or COPR as I have submitted to ADVO on 5th September and on 18th Sept we got this fabulous news that my wife is conceived.

Whats the repercussion of this decision of not taking my wife along with me. I am also going for a short landing to Toronto and will return back to Dubai so that I can hoard more cash to live comfortably in Canada atleast until I have a suitable job to support my family.

Should I inform CIC that my wife is pregnant? Can I disclose the same when I visit Canada for soft landing?
Can I then sponsor my Kid after that?

Regards,

Ashraff Ali

 

[TanakaM]

Hi everyone,

Once our PR application was approved, we received the good news of my wife being pregnant. Now she will be unable to come with me to Canada. For now, we have not received the Visa or COPR as I have submitted to ADVO on 5th September and on 18th Sept we got this fabulous news that my wife is conceived.

Whats the repercussion of this decision of not taking my wife along with me. I am also going for a short landing to Toronto and will return back to Dubai so that I can hoard more cash to live comfortably in Canada atleast until I have a suitable job to support my family.

Should I inform CIC that my wife is pregnant? Can I disclose the same when I visit Canada for soft landing?
Can I then sponsor my Kid after that?

Regards,

Ashraff Ali

If your wife and kids were accompanying you, all they need to do is a soft landing and leave. If they don't, sponsoring them may be a difficult process.

regards

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hi everyone,

Once our PR application was approved, we received the good news of my wife being pregnant. Now she will be unable to come with me to Canada. For now, we have not received the Visa or COPR as I have submitted to ADVO on 5th September and on 18th Sept we got this fabulous news that my wife is conceived.

Whats the repercussion of this decision of not taking my wife along with me. I am also going for a short landing to Toronto and will return back to Dubai so that I can hoard more cash to live comfortably in Canada atleast until I have a suitable job to support my family.

Should I inform CIC that my wife is pregnant? Can I disclose the same when I visit Canada for soft landing?
Can I then sponsor my Kid after that?

Regards,

Ashraff Ali

Hi

You don't need to inform IRCC that she is pregnant or tell CBSA when landing. If you wife doesn't land, you will need to sponsor her as well.

Note that as a PR, you are required to live in Canada throughout the sponsorship process. This means that if your family is unable to get visas, they will need to remain in your country while you are in Canada sponsoring them.

 

[Bs65]

Once you have your COPR do the soft landing with your wife before the pregnancy progresses too far to be able to travel . That option as previous posts a lot simpler timewise than having to sponsor her and the new born later when you may end up with some time apart due to the sponsorship requirements.

Once landed as you probably know you can stay away for almost 3 years before residency obligation becomes an issue . There are plenty of posts on the forum of couples with new borns born outside Canada post the parents landing where they have eventually resolved the new borns PR status.

 

[crescent_jam]

Hi everyone,

Once our PR application was approved, we received the good news of my wife being pregnant. Now she will be unable to come with me to Canada. For now, we have not received the Visa or COPR as I have submitted to ADVO on 5th September and on 18th Sept we got this fabulous news that my wife is conceived.

Whats the repercussion of this decision of not taking my wife along with me. I am also going for a short landing to Toronto and will return back to Dubai so that I can hoard more cash to live comfortably in Canada atleast until I have a suitable job to support my family.

Should I inform CIC that my wife is pregnant? Can I disclose the same when I visit Canada for soft landing?
Can I then sponsor my Kid after that?

Regards,

Ashraff Ali

First off, congratulations! You seem very excited about your upcoming bundle of joy, so good on you and your wife!

If I may ask, unless it's too personal, why exactly won't your wife be coming to Canada with you, now that she's pregnant? When you say 'not coming with you', do you mean not coming right away, or not interested in ever going to Canada at all anymore?

If it's the former, she doesn't need to come with you right away. She just needs to soft land before her PR visa expires (and if your concern is her travelling while pregnant, you could contact IRCC to see if you can get a possible extension on her 'deadline to land' date until after she gives birth) and then return to Dubai. She would then have approximately 3 years from the date of landing before she has to move permanently to Canada (although you want to be careful and leave a little wiggle room to ensure that, at the end of the day, she'll still meet the "730 days (2 years) of physical residency in Canada in the first 5 years" requirement.

Family sponsorship is a tedious process that can keep families apart for a painfully long time. If it's your intention for your wife to ever be a PR in Canada, the best bet is to have her take the option up now, while it's available to her. And, again, while I'm not sure ultimately what your plans are... Canadian-born baby? Citizen-from-birth? That can't hurt, right?

Either way, if your wife definitely isn't going to come with you anymore, you need to contact IRCC to let them know she will be unaccompanying. You say your PR application has been approved; if you don't contact IRCC to update them on the situation, and she simply doesn't send her passport for the visa stamp and COPR, or, if you already have those things and she doesn't land, I don't think she will ever be able to apply for PR in the future if and when the situation changes...

 

[HusainS]

WHen you guys get the PR just enter Canada with your wife. Apply for the PR card and let her fly back home. Should solve all your problems. Don’t get into the family sponsoring thing. It’s tedious.

 

[ajawfer]

Hi crescent

The issue is my wife is very weak and she needs continuous bed rest so that her labor is safe and convenient. Since it’s our first baby we are very careful to avoid any sort of risks or bad outcome.

I have a proposal in my mind. Can I do a soft landing and then inform the authorities that my wife is pregnant? What will they ask me to do.

How hard is to sponsor my family. On average how long is the processing time.

First off, congratulations! You seem very excited about your upcoming bundle of joy, so good on you and your wife!

If I may ask, unless it's too personal, why exactly won't your wife be coming to Canada with you, now that she's pregnant? When you say 'not coming with you', do you mean not coming right away, or not interested in ever going to Canada at all anymore?

If it's the former, she doesn't need to come with you right away. She just needs to soft land before her PR visa expires (and if your concern is her travelling while pregnant, you could contact IRCC to see if you can get a possible extension on her 'deadline to land' date until after she gives birth) and then return to Dubai. She would then have approximately 3 years from the date of landing before she has to move permanently to Canada (although you want to be careful and leave a little wiggle room to ensure that, at the end of the day, she'll still meet the "730 days (2 years) of physical residency in Canada in the first 5 years" requirement.

Family sponsorship is a tedious process that can keep families apart for a painfully long time. If it's your intention for your wife to ever be a PR in Canada, the best bet is to have her take the option up now, while it's available to her. And, again, while I'm not sure ultimately what your plans are... Canadian-born baby? Citizen-from-birth? That can't hurt, right?

Either way, if your wife definitely isn't going to come with you anymore, you need to contact IRCC to let them know she will be unaccompanying. You say your PR application has been approved; if you don't contact IRCC to update them on the situation, and she simply doesn't send her passport for the visa stamp and COPR, or, if you already have those things and she doesn't land, I don't think she will ever be able to apply for PR in the future if and when the situation changes...[/QUOT

 

[ajawfer]

Please note the doctor has not said anything regarding this matter. We are still confused and would like to hear from experienced guys who have done this previously. Will air travel for almost 14 to 15 hours affect the fetus post three months. I understand I should ask the doctor regarding this. But I am under the assumption that someone who is reading this would have felt and experienced the same dilemma I am going through now so that they can advise me to take the most viable course of action.

 

[crescent_jam]

Hi crescent

The issue is my wife is very weak and she needs continuous bed rest so that her labor is safe and convenient. Since it’s our first baby we are very careful to avoid any sort of risks or bad outcome.

I have a proposal in my mind. Can I do a soft landing and then inform the authorities that my wife is pregnant? What will they ask me to do.

How hard is to sponsor my family. On average how long is the processing time.

Spousal sponsorship can take a year once the application is filed, and I don't think you can file the application until you meet certain residency requirements as a PR (not sure what those are) so there may yet be additional time involved in addition to the 1 year. According to the processing time tool on IRCC's website, sponsoring a dependent child takes 10 months. I have absolutely no idea if the two applications can be done in tandem (I'm not well-versed on family sponsorship).

You can definitely do a soft landing and then go back and be with your wife (so long as you get back in time to still meet your residency requirements to maintain your PR status). But instead of informing IRCC about your wife after you land, I would recommend instead raising a CSE now and seeing if you can have your wife's landing date deadline extended. My understanding is that it's always a better idea to process any necessary changes BEFORE landing....

I hope your wife stays well and the pregnancy all goes according to plan. Wishing you both the very best!

 

[HusainS]

Please note the doctor has not said anything regarding this matter. We are still confused and would like to hear from experienced guys who have done this previously. Will air travel for almost 14 to 15 hours affect the fetus post three months. I understand I should ask the doctor regarding this. But I am under the assumption that someone who is reading this would have felt and experienced the same dilemma I am going through now so that they can advise me to take the most viable course of action.

I’ve known people doing 20 hour trips even in the 6th-7th month. But, the best is to confer with your gynac. If the doc says it’s ok then you shouldn’t worry.

I understand your jumpy feeling. I’ve become a first time father recently too. But, we generally tend to fuss about nothing.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I have a proposal in my mind. Can I do a soft landing and then inform the authorities that my wife is pregnant? What will they ask me to do.

How hard is to sponsor my family. On average how long is the processing time.

There is no point in informing them of the pregnancy. It won't change anything.

You should plan for a year for sponsorship. You will need to be in Canada and there is no guarantee that your family will be approved for visas, so you need to prepare to be apart from them during the process.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

But instead of informing IRCC about your wife after you land, I would recommend instead raising a CSE now and seeing if you can have your wife's landing date deadline extended. My understanding is that it's always a better idea to process any necessary changes BEFORE landing....

IRCC will not extend her landing date.

 

[crescent_jam]

There is no point in informing them of the pregnancy. It won't change anything.

You should plan for a year for sponsorship. You will need to be in Canada and there is no guarantee that your family will be approved for visas, so you need to prepare to be apart from them during the process.

Oh dear...Why though? His wife has been approved for PR (he said OUR PR application has been approved); so why have her give that up and resort to sponsorship? If he notified CIC about the issue, do you really think CIC wouldn't even consider granting a request to extend her landing deadline if it was possible that asking her to travel could be dangerous to her and the baby's health? Have there never been any cases of them making this exception?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Oh dear...Why though? His wife has been approved for PR (he said OUR PR application has been approved); so why have her give that up and resort to sponsorship? If he notified CIC about the issue, do you really think CIC wouldn't even consider granting a request to extend her landing deadline if it was possible that asking her to travel could be dangerous to her and the baby's health? Have there never been any cases of them making this exception?

Use it or lose it. IRCC doesn't grant extensions for personal life choices.

 

[crescent_jam]

Use it or lose it. IRCC doesn't grant extensions for personal life choices.

But there appear to be a few people on this forum who were given that option (granted, they had to do things like reopen their file and retake their medical)...unless they were not being truthful...

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/landing-date-extension.480859/#post-5902947
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/landing-date-extension-indirectly.473568/

Also...would we really classify a dangerous pregnancy as a 'personal life choice'? Not that it's a dangerous pregnancy but, I would like to hope that, if IRCC was presented with the situation of a dangerous pregnancy, that they would try to at least consider it...