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slw

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vzoo said:
1) the system automatically generates all the differences between the ee profile with the app, and writes down as a note for each with the submission date. and yes, they record everything at a)when ee was created b)ITA c)submission date d)any change made before ITA but after ee initially created (this is my guess since i didn't make any change)

2) the date and time was 18 hours faster from EST... like why?(I thought they would use GMT) I have to deduct 18 hours to get the real EST of the notes event

3) my time line
AOR - Jan. 11
Medical Passed - Feb. 18
No Add. Doc. Needed - Feb. 18
Background NN-NS(Feb.18)-NN(Mar. 1)

corresponding events
supportive agent review (note date and time in EST Feb 18 12:33 PM NS Local time 1:33PM)
this agent simply summarized the application, identified where to find each document and updated the medical result

agent review (Feb 21 9:31 AM EST)
this agent reviewed my education

another agent review (Mar 1 7:34AM EST local time 8:34AM)
it was an R10 review, checked police certificate and explanation on SQ

the file then transferred to Ottawa overnight
and got an analyst review the next day (note date Mar 2 4:34 PM EST)

4) I didn't have the transcript slot but I submitted a confirmation letter of graduation and downloaded unofficial transcript online along with the diploma. They didn't care about the letter at all, but the transcript seemed to be accepted by the analyst.

5) I entered a number on available fund and submitted online bank statements and a screen cap of balance. It seems that nobody cares.
Supportive agent set out all documents for review, but Agents only reviewed education and police certificates. And since I answered yes on SQ, they also reviewed that, then passed my R10. Proof of Fund wasn't mentioned neither from agents or analyst. (CEC no need to worry about fund)

6) by Mar 10, the security check was not started,

7) under info sharing, they notified the states right after the supportive agent started reviewing...guess somehow the American government does know everything, I mean EVERYTHING
Thanks for sharing! Very insightful
I am curious about number 7.. did u lived in the USA?

Did your background ever changed from IP to NA to IP(2)?

Thanks,
SLW
 

anandunics

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Hi Guys,

In GCMS notes , what's PNP MEC?
is it something like , CIC recalculates the points for a Provincial Nomination.
for eg :

1.for OINP nomination a candidate is required to have min CRS score of 400.
2. for SINP EE , 60 pts is required for an applicant to apply for the nomination.
 

g126

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anandunics said:
Hi Guys,

In GCMS notes , what's PNP MEC?
is it something like , CIC recalculates the points for a Provincial Nomination.
for eg :

1.for OINP nomination a candidate is required to have min CRS score of 400.
2. for SINP EE , 60 pts is required for an applicant to apply for the nomination.
No, not quite!

MEC is Minimum Eligibility Criteria and every PNP is a EC (Economic Class) applicant, so they must belong to FSW, CEC or FST. The MEC is related to these sub PNP classes if you will... So for FSW you must meet the six factor (also known as 67/100), for CEC you must meet at least 12 months of continuous full time employment, etc.

Some PNP have extra criteria (like OINP that requires you to maintain above 400), these are also analysed during the A11.2 analysis.
 

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slw said:
Thanks for sharing! Very insightful
I am curious about number 7.. did u lived in the USA?

Did your background ever changed from IP to NA to IP(2)?

Thanks,
SLW
I think EVERYONE goes through INFO SHARING, I think its standard as I've yet to see someone who hasn't... Plenty of people who have never been to the US also go through it so that's what makes me think it's standard.
 

Pat180715

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Hi, guys!

My AOR is Feb 10, so far the only update I had is "medicals passed" on March 10. BG changed from NA to NS on March 10 and has been like that ever since. Do you think it's time to order gcms or better to wait till 3 months pass after AOR?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Pat180715 said:
Hi, guys!

My AOR is Feb 10, so far the only update I had is "medicals passed" on March 10. BG changed from NA to NS on March 10 and has been like that ever since. Do you think it's time to order gcms or better to wait till 3 months pass after AOR?

Thanks in advance!
Your BC should change back to NA, I'd order them a few weeks after that happens if you want to see your A11.2 recommendation.
 

lifeisgood99

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Hii.. I am november 07 cec inland applicant..( my background check is in progress since 20th march )
I ordered Gcms notes on 3th march and i got on 30th march...It says the following..
R10 ALL OK REVIEW.... CRIMINALITY AND MEDICAL PASSED..( SECURITY CHECK WAS NOT STARTED AT THAT TIME NOW ITS IN PROGRESS)
11.2 REVIEW REQUIRED and R 87.1 required ?

In the bottow it says... Awaiting officer review B.F. 30 DAYS...? My file is in cpc ottawa..

Does any one have an idea regarding my file ?. Thanx
 

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lifeisgood99 said:
Hii.. I am november 07 cec inland applicant..( my background check is in progress since 20th march )
I ordered Gcms notes on 3th march and i got on 30th march...It says the following..
R10 ALL OK REVIEW.... CRIMINALITY AND MEDICAL PASSED..( SECURITY CHECK WAS NOT STARTED AT THAT TIME NOW ITS IN PROGRESS)
11.2 REVIEW REQUIRED and R 87.1 required ?

In the bottow it says... Awaiting officer review B.F. 30 DAYS...? My file is in cpc ottawa..

Does any one have an idea regarding my file ?. Thanx
You need to paste the whole comment if you want help, as it needs to be analyzed. BF means Bona fide so in good faith. Usually this means the analyst or officer is not convinced that something in your file is genuine, so it may be your relationship or something else... please share more data so that we can analyze and help you.
 

lifeisgood99

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g126 said:
You need to paste the whole comment if you want help, as it needs to be analyzed. BF means Bona fide so in good faith. Usually this means the analyst or officer is not convinced that something in your file is genuine, so it may be your relationship or something else... please share more data so that we can analyze and help you.
Hii.. But generally everyone under CEC passes through 11.2 and 87.1 if i am not wrong its the part of their check.... i didnt submit pay stuf or t4 may be this could be the reason they are reviewing.....Thanx
 

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lifeisgood99 said:
Hii.. But generally everyone under CEC passes through 11.2 and 87.1 if i am not wrong its the part of their check.... i didnt submit pay stuf or t4 may be this could be the reason they are reviewing.....Thanx
Let's stick to one thread - http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/express-entry-eapr-submitted-in-november-2016-t459415.0.html;msg5940591#msg5940591
 

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lifeisgood99 said:
Hii.. I am november 07 cec inland applicant..( my background check is in progress since 20th march )
I ordered Gcms notes on 3th march and i got on 30th march...It says the following..
R10 ALL OK REVIEW.... CRIMINALITY AND MEDICAL PASSED..( SECURITY CHECK WAS NOT STARTED AT THAT TIME NOW ITS IN PROGRESS)
11.2 REVIEW REQUIRED and R 87.1 required ?

In the bottow it says... Awaiting officer review B.F. 30 DAYS...? My file is in cpc ottawa..

Does any one have an idea regarding my file ?. Thanx
I think bf is same bfd.....meaning bring forward date.....meaning that is the date your application will be reviewed next.... In your case, 30 days..... What's ur timeline and BG like?
 

Pat180715

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g126 said:
Your BC should change back to NA, I'd order them a few weeks after that happens if you want to see your A11.2 recommendation.
Thanks for your advice! I'm also thinking about ordering later. Do you know any cases when BG stayed NS but R10 and A11.2 were done already? Because there are cases when BG is NA all the time and people get PPR.
 

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g126 said:
Your BC should change back to NA, I'd order them a few weeks after that happens if you want to see your A11.2 recommendation.
Btw, it's already 100 days since your AOR, what BG changes do you have and when?
 

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@lazybone and other senior members:

In my GCMS notes, my Security has been "Not Started" since the beginning of the February.


ADMISSIBILITIES

SECURITY

SECURITY: 1
Created Date: 2017/02/XX
Created By: MMXXXXXX
Updated Date: 2017/02/XX
Updated By: MMXXXXX
UCI #: XXXX-XXXX
Family Name: XXXX
Given Name(s): YYYY
Type: Security
Status: Not Started
Validity Date:
Status Updated By: MMXXXX
Status Updated Date: 2017/02/XX
Assigned By: MMXXXX
Assigned To: RC-XXXX
Due Date: 2018/01/31
Activity #: X-N4XXXX



Also, the following are the last agents' notes in my GCMS:


NOTES: XX
Created Date: 2017/02/XX
Created By: DPXXXXXX
Updated Date: 2017/02/XX
Updated By: DPXXXXX
Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility (notice this does not say "ELIGIBILITY")
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text:
REVIEW TYPE: Case Analyst APPLICATION: EXXXXXXXX REGULATION: PNP: FSW, 2016-12-XX I have verified
this application under Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) and make the
following determination. RECOMMENDATION:***Appears to meet requirements*** Ready to Finalize
----------------------CIVIL STATUS: PA (XXX, YYY),
SINGLE INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA
(XXX, YYY) In Status- ZZZ Valid Until: 2017-XX-XX NO ADVERSE INFORMATION------WORK
EXPERIENCE(S): Qualifying Period: from XXXX to YYYY 1) Systems Analyst- (NOC2171) at XYZ Solutions . LOE Salary$:XX,000. Submitted
letter(s) of reference [ ] which is/are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER(S): #XXXXXXXXX The duties
listed in the letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC
code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties
under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum
requirements of 12 months of work experience. PA meets education requirements

NOTES: YY
Created Date: 2017/02/XX
Created By: KDXXXXX
Updated Date: 2017/02/XX
Updated By: KDXXXXXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Rec'd Requested Documents


Based on the above information, can you please answer the following questions:

  • Is my security ongoing or has in not been started yet? (in my EE profle, my BG is NA at the moment)
  • Since my A11.2 was assessed as "Recommended Pass", does this mean another agent still needs to verify my Eligibility? If yes, will this happen after my Security changes to "Pass"?
  • Are "EE ELIGIBILITY" and "ELIGIBILITY" the same? If not, what each one of the mean?
    I ask this because they contain different information. Here is how "ELIGIBILITY" section looks like in my notes:

    ELIGIBILITY
    ELIGIBILITY ASSESSMENT
    ELIGIBILITY ASSESSMENT: 0
    WORK EXPERIENCE
    WORK EXPERIENCE: 0
    WORK EXPERIENCE- LC
    WORK EXPERIENCE- LC: 0


  • What does "Ready to Finalize" indicate?

I appreciate your help! ;D
 

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AmirHNK said:
Is my security ongoing or has in not been started yet? (in my EE profle, my BG is NA at the moment)
Obviously Not Started 1 month ago. Probably started by now - no one can tell.

AmirHNK said:
Since my A11.2 was assessed as "Recommended Pass", does this mean another agent still needs to verify my Eligibility?
Yes.

AmirHNK said:
If yes, will this happen after my Security changes to "Pass"?
Not necessarily - because security and eligibility are mutually exclusive.

Btw, congrats.