Two or more degree - confusion

[praturi]

Hello Friends,
I applied for ECA for 2 of my college courses. I got their evaluation as following -
Canadian Equivalency: Completion of a college-level certificate (one year)
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (four years)

However on the top section of report it says,
CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY Bachelor's degree (four years)
Can you please suggest if I am eligible for 'Two or more degrees,certificate or diploma' option?

 

[olipearce1987]

No, what matter is the summary. According to this, you cannot select two degrees or more.

He can't choose two or more correct....however the summary is not what only matters. My summary had all 3 of my qualifications in it and I checked with a lawyer who should me the express entry instructions she had and the second qualification has to be post degree, so summary is not always just the answer

 

[istari]

He can't choose two or more correct....however the summary is not what only matters. My summary had all 3 of my qualifications in it and I checked with a lawyer who should me the express entry instructions she had and the second qualification has to be post degree, so summary is not always just the answer

I too thought that the second degree has to be post-graduate, but it's not true. Any university-level qualification of at least 1 year counts as your second degree.

 

[olipearce1987]

I too thought that the second degree has to be post-graduate, but it's not true. Any university-level qualification of at least 1 year counts as your second degree.

I have an official text from cic if you wish me to provide it which states it has to be post degree.

 

[olipearce1987]

I have an official text from cic if you wish me to provide it which states it has to be post degree.

this is from cic website the ministerial instructions:

vi) 128 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials and at least one of them was issued at the completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more,

 

[cecfile]

Copied exactly from website. I hope it will help to clear your doubt

ECA assessment results:

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:

Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificate
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diploma
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]
Graduate diploma
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]
Dual Bachelor’s degree (four years)

 

[istari]

this is from cic website the ministerial instructions:

vi) 128 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials and at least one of them was issued at the completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more,

I accept that. But CIC's website says:
"A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:
Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificate
Post-Bachelor's Diploma"
etc.

"Any of the results in the sections below" (as far as I understand it) means everything in the 1-year and 2-year qualification sections, including all of the following:
College Certificate
Completion of College-level certificate
University Certificate
University Diploma
One-year certificate in [name of discipline]
Post-secondary certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
One-year Post-secondary certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
One-year certificate

None of which are post-grad.

 

[olipearce1987]

I accept that. But CIC's website says:
"A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:
Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificate
Post-Bachelor's Diploma"
etc.

"Any of the results in the sections below" includes all of the following:
College Certificate
Completion of College-level certificate
University Certificate
University Diploma
One-year certificate in [name of discipline]
Post-secondary certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
One-year Post-secondary certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
One-year certificate

None of which are post-grad.

the above which I copied and pasted was from the cic website...also I spoke to a lawyer who confirmed it.

 

[olipearce1987]

I accept that. But CIC's website says:
"A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:
Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificate
Post-Bachelor's Diploma"
etc.

"Any of the results in the sections below" (as far as I understand it) means everything in the 1-year and 2-year qualification sections, including all of the following:
College Certificate
Completion of College-level certificate
University Certificate
University Diploma
One-year certificate in [name of discipline]
Post-secondary certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
One-year Post-secondary certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
One-year certificate

None of which are post-grad.

I know the conversion table doesn't state it, but the other area of the website does state it.

 

[istari]

the above which I copied and pasted was from the cic website...also I spoke to a lawyer who confirmed it.

I accept that your information came from the CIC website. But so did the information I just posted.
I'm not saying that you're wrong; I'm saying that CIC has conflicting information on their website.

I've seen people on this forum make it through the process using an undergrad qualification as their second degree.
I've never seen someone have their application rejected because of an undergrad degree.
So until I do, I'm going to assume that it's possible to claim an undergrad degree as a second qualification.

 

[olipearce1987]

I accept that your information came from the CIC website. But so did the information I just posted.
I'm not saying that you're wrong; I'm saying that CIC has conflicting information on their website.

I've seen people on this forum make it through the process using an undergrad qualification as their second degree.
I've never seen someone have their application rejected because of an undergrad degree.
So until I do, I'm going to assume that it's possible to claim an undergrad degree as a second qualification.

I agree with u, but I feel users shud b careful not to grt rejected for misinterpreted

 

[IMTS]

Do Specializations are considered a post graduation diploma? What if it was only six months lenght? What if was from a recognized institution but taken online?

 

[Aal_]

if one has 2 bachelor's it counts as Two or more. and we know a bachelor is not post graduate. so it follows that the post graduate degree is not a requirement. just my opinion.

 

[olipearce1987]

Hi, I do agree with you all, but also the source of my data if wanted
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/mi/express-entry.asp&ved=0ahUKEwikxOfxkKjPAhVFB8AKHdW8A1kQFggdMAE&usg=AFQjCNFoyBKv9PAuxVD_-DgcLaGvMDnoVA&sig2=dqH5THL-t1aaheIQgWXojw

 

[istari]

this is from cic website the ministerial instructions:

vi) 128 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials and at least one of them was issued at the completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more,

You've completely misunderstood this point.

This just means that 1 of the credentials has to be at least 3 years.
It means that you've completed a 3-year program of study, and are then issued a credential for those 3 years.
It does not mean that your second credential has to be completed after the 3-year credential.