TRV refused for my mother - Huge stress during pregnancy

[Bryanna]

Will it be a good idea if her employer issues such a certificate stating the following?

It sounds good..... do include the employment letter (appointment letter) + any employment tenure letter + 6 months' salary slips, etc etc


NOW.... the big issue with this idea:
1. This letter from the employer cannot be dated in the present.... as this will come across like an afterthought for the last-minute deposits made

2. The entries in your mom's bank statement are NOT from her employer.... so were these cash deposits or bank transfers from you?


An aside:
Does your mom have an EPF and/or PPF account?
is your mom eligible for gratuity after she retires?

 

[edinera]

Thanks a lot Bryanna for your prompt responses. Much Appreciated !

NOW.... the big issue with this idea:
1. This letter from the employer cannot be dated in the present.... as this will come across like an afterthought for the last-minute deposits made
2. The entries in your mom's bank statement are NOT from her employer.... so were these cash deposits or bank transfers from you?

That's correct. The bank transfers in the past were from me. But we were planning to increase her funds. The employer is ready to make those deposits. So the new deposits will not be from me but from the actual Employer themselves.

An aside:
Does your mom have an EPF and/or PPF account?
is your mom eligible for gratuity after she retires?

Yes. She has an EPF Account and she is eligible for gratuity. So could we include her PF account details as well?

Now, Do you think it would be better If i applied through an Immigration Lawyer this time or with the documents that you have pointed out, will it be ok If i applied by myself?

 

[Bryanna]

The employer is ready to make those deposits. So the new deposits will not be from me but from the actual Employer themselves.

That's okay.... these advance retirement payments must be through cheques issued by the employer or bank transfers..... not cash..... and include a letter from the employer stating this.

Is your mom's salary deposited in a different bank account from the last-minute deposits?

She has an EPF Account and she is eligible for gratuity. So could we include her PF account details as well?

Yes, you can include these amounts in her finances.

You may want to reconfirm the current EPF premature withdrawal rules.... I think it is possible to withdraw a considerable amount of the EPF accumulated.... you can include this amount as her available finances for her visit.

Do include the EPF statement + prints of premature EPF withdrawal rules (from the website).

Do you think it would be better If i applied through an Immigration Lawyer this time or with the documents that you have pointed out, will it be ok If i applied by myself?

It's your choice. However, I am sure you can prepare a good application on your own instead of paying an immigration lawyer

 

[edinera]

Is your mom's salary deposited in a different bank account from the last-minute deposits?

Her salary is deposited in the same account as that of the last minute deposits.

 

[Bryanna]

Her salary is deposited in the same account as that of the last minute deposits.

Okay. Not a problem


Just to add:
It's not necessary to withdraw the EPF prematurely.... you can cite the premature withdrawal rules.... and mention that she can withdraw this amount, if required

 

[edinera]

Okay. Thank you so much.. Your help means a lot !
Will work on getting the required documentations and I'll keep you posted.

 

[BrianDell]

you're just bitter

Well of course I'm bitter. The question is whether I'm "just" bitter or have some genuinely well-founded criticisms. In January the Dept of Homeland Security reported a fiscal 2015 overstay rate of 0.9% versus 1.18% for Canada for all visitors (as an aside, for US visitors needing a visa, the overstay rate was 1.6%). Now how is that possible (a greater overstay rate in Canada) when, accordingly to you, American visa officers’ lack of interest in visa application supporting documents is the probable reason why they have so many illegals in the US?

The most recent Australian stats I could find are here:
https://www.border.gov.au/about/reports-publications/research-statistics/statistics/visit-australia/quarterly-report-june-2013
and they indicate an overstay rate of 0.7% for all nationalities. For Chinese, it was 0.3% (this is a ways off your 10% guesstimate). Meanwhile, Australia issued tourist visas to more than 96% of Chinese applicants. Can you explain to me, as an outspoken fan of the Canadian visa issuance system, how the Australians manage to combine much lower refusal rates with lower overstay rates? The Canadian system worked for you. Well, that’s great, but that doesn’t mean much of anything when your case represented one of a million or more.

both of us spent 3 days compiling our documents and constantly exceeded the 4MB file limit, that we had to compress our font, remove some pics, to make the file fit. We absolutely did all our power to show she will not overstay, and my wife was then granted this TRV.

And that explains your success, does it? What everybody else needs to do is raise their attitude and their energy to your level. The fact you had a different visa office and a different visa officer doesn’t factor: you're the master of your fate. Care to hazard a guess at how much time my wife and I spent on her mother’s application? You don’t think we were not compressing fonts and removing pics? In the end, we decided the 4 MB restriction was restricting our chances however marginally and we had the mother apply in person. No removing anything and presentation of the originals, no copies or scans. No limitation on the size of the file.

These anecdotes of ours in fact don’t’ mean much of anything. You previously claimed that suggesting the mother will take care of her grandkid will get a “Purpose of Visit” reason for refusal, did you not? Well I stated that and that wasn’t a reason for refusal. We instead got an incomplete financial documentation reason. But I don’t just call on my experience to say I don’t believe the given reasons are the true ones, I call attention to others in a position to know who say that, like the Toronto immigration lawyer who testified on Parliament Hill and whom I quoted in another thread. I happen to have a law degree myself, but that’s beside the point when the point is that the experts and evidence I’ve called attention to stand regardless of whether I’m just “bitter”.

 

[edinera]

Hi Bryanna,

Hope you are doing fine !

So I have applied online for my mother's tourist visa on june 2nd. After submitting the application, I realized that my mother's first and last name was interchanged in the "Use of Representative form". It is clearly an administrative mistake. All other forms have her name correctly printed except for this form.

Will this have any effect on her application as this is her second application after a refusal. I thought of even submitting a case specific enquiry form. But i wasnt sure if this would delay the processing of my mother's application.

Could you please suggest if i could leave it as it is for now or do i have to submit a Case specific enquiry form ?

Thanks.

 

[Bryanna]

Hi,

I'm good. Thanks. Hope you're doing well too.

You can send a CSE to inform them. It's not a major error as the TRV application has been filled correctly.... and will not delay the processing. So don't worry


Cheers

 

[edinera]

I'm doing fine. Thanks.

Ok. As you have stated that it is not a major error, is it still necessary to send a CSE ?

 

[Bryanna]

I don't think it will delay the processing.... it's best to send a CSE just to be on the safe side

 

[edinera]

Ok. Will do. Thank you.

 

[nope]

I don't entirely agree with some of the comments here -- my mother-in-law, a Thai farmer, has visited us twice in Canada. The first time, she had no travel history, and was given a 6 month tourist visa, no problem; we applied for her to accompany my wife when she landed. The second time was when my wife was pregnant, and we wanted her to come here to help take care of my wife and the baby; she was given a 3-year multiple entry visa. In the latter application, we were explicit about why she was visiting -- her daughter's pregnancy is an obvious reason, and even CIC isn't silly enough to think that a mother is going to come visit and not do things like watch the baby, change its diaper, take care of the older child, etc. Come on!

I have found CIC to be extremely flexible regarding visits by relatives -- personally, I would guess that your refusal is due to two possible things, not enough assets on your end, and maybe an incomplete letter explaining your family situation. It might be optimism, but I have always found that CIC is quite accommodating to things that make sense, and if you take enough time to think about how they might look from the other side and explain, most things are possible.

N.B. I'm not arguing that there aren't any absurd visa refusals, of course. For the man above, with a Chinese mother-in-law, I have no idea what happened, your situation sounds similar to mine.

 

[edinera]

I had applied to see the refusing officer's electronic notes ;

in which the officer states that my mother is a widow. (She is not a widow. She is divorced. I had attached her Divorce certificate in the first application)

Reason 2: My notice of assessment showing less than 20000$ for the year 2015 (But my NOA shows 71000$ for the year 2015. I had attached this document as well in my first application)

Reason 3: My Mother has strong ties to remain in Canada. (My mother has been employed with the same company for nearly 19-20 years now. Apart form that she did show movable and immovable assets. Other than that, I had not mentioned anything regarding my family thinking that it was already in the family information form)

Though there has been errors in evaluation of my mother's application, I also agree that I should have given better explanations proving that my mother would return to India after her visit. Also i had applied through a travel agency in my home town. I had sent all my documentations to them hoping they would forward to the VAC. And I'm not sure if they had sent in all that i had sent. Sometimes too much of an information could also create confusions.

I have addressed all these in my second application. Fingers crossed !

 

[pfse]

We were in similar situation few months ago (my wife applied for visa for her mother in Russia) and it was approved in 5 days. Here what worked for us:
1. Invitation letter states that mother would come for 2 months to meet and celebrate new baby born (no words about taking care on the baby).
2. Statement that we will provide place to stay, food and medical insurance for her mother.
3. Proof that our income meets "Low Income Cut-Off" (attached my reference letter and salary sleeps as my wife was on EI parental leave).
4. List of my wife mother's property and income (she is actually not working and receiving pension payments).