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TRV for parents - Template for 14 day quarantine plan

canuck78

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it is not just about quarantine plan. people those who have less or no knowledge every answer to their question will raise a question.
This thread is about about a quarantine plan. Yet again there is no need for a lawyer to write your quarantine plan.
 

yumirdci

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If you have something like a basement suite where they will not have contact with your family. Otherwise they can stay with you if the rest of the family also remains in quarantine for 14 days.
You don’t have to isolate the whole family, this is incorrect. Only those who were travelling. There is no requirement to isolate for yourself if you are hosting your family.
 

canuck78

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You don’t have to isolate the whole family, this is incorrect. Only those who were travelling. There is no requirement to isolate for yourself if you are hosting your family.
Yes you all have to isolate if your parent/spouse is not quarantining in a separate part of the house like a basement. If you are sharing a kitchen, bathroom, bedroom is nearby others, etc. you all get exposed.
 

yumirdci

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Yes you all have to isolate if your parent/spouse is not quarantining in a separate part of the house like a basements . If you are sharing a kitchen, bathroom, bedroom is nearby others, etc. you all get exposed.
Is there a reference to this?
 

canuck78

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Is there a reference to this?
It is just is common sense. If you parents are infected and living with you but not in a separate area, you will catch covid before they get symptomatic. If you are not quarantine you would likely have gone out and then could have spread it to others. Covid stays aerosolized in the air for 3 hours.

This is a good example of quarantine done right while at home. Many just get an AirBnB.
https://www.kansascity.com/site-services/newsletters/coronavirus-latest-nl/article241205286.html
 

yumirdci

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It is just is common sense. If you parents are infected and living with you but not in a separate area, you will catch covid before they get symptomatic. If you are not quarantine you would likely have gone out and then could have spread it to others. Covid stays aerosolized in the air for 3 hours.

This is a good example of quarantine done right while at home. Many just get an AirBnB.
https://www.kansascity.com/site-services/newsletters/coronavirus-latest-nl/article241205286.html
well yeah, but what I was saying is that this is not mandatory. Yes, it is better to self-isolate the whole family, but if it is absolutely unavoidable you won’t get punished for this - only the travellers if they break the isolation requirementa.
 

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well yeah, but what I was saying is that this is not mandatory. Yes, it is better to self-isolate the whole family, but if it is absolutely unavoidable you won’t get punished for this - only the travellers if they break the isolation requirementa.
I guess not but you may have to have live with the fact that the travellers may infect you and you went about your normal business outside of quarantine/isolation and infected many other people ’punishing’ them by you not being responsible,

Isolation means exactly that and no matter how practical or not it is all about taking responsibility and making adjustments no matter how inconvenient else this pandemic has no chance of being even slightly overcome

If people especially visitors, but really anyone, cannot meet the quarantine requirements they should not travel to Canada at this time.
 
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I guess not but you may have to have live with the fact that the travellers may infect you and you went about your normal business outside of quarantine/isolation and infected many other people ’punishing’ them by you not being responsible,

Isolation means exactly that and no matter how practical or not it is all about taking responsibility and making adjustments no matter how inconvenient else this pandemic has no chance of being even slightly overcome

If people especially visitors, but really anyone, cannot meet the quarantine requirements they should not travel to Canada at this time.
“Visitors” are not the ones protesting with no masks on, against mask wearing, all while flying the Canadian flag upside down! Not once do they realize what kind of sacrifice it took/takes to defend that flag. It’s some Canadians who are the problem. All they care about is their “Charter”. They don’t realize how the charter came to be and how it’s defended DAILY!
 
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CDNsoldier

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Quarantine Plan is not a requirement to apply for TRV. It is a good idea to discuss a brief plan in the cover letter, however. This will show the deciding agent that the visitor is aware of a 14 day quarantine requirements and the rules that need to be followed during the 14 days.

My wife landed @ YYZ via YVR last Thursday. She got a call on yesterday from a health official to find out if she is in quarantine. They asked her a bunch of quarantine related questions. She asked the agent if I am allowed to leave home or go to work. The agent said: "Yes, your husband CAN leave home and CAN go to work. Only foreign visitors to Canada are subject to the interim order.
 

canuck78

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well yeah, but what I was saying is that this is not mandatory. Yes, it is better to self-isolate the whole family, but if it is absolutely unavoidable you won’t get punished for this - only the travellers if they break the isolation requirementa.
They are giving out fines for not isolating properly so if someone does find out that your family is not quarantining separately from you and you are going out you could get a pretty big fine. Your lack of quarantine could also lead to someone dying which should be reason enough.
 

canuck78

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“Visitors” are not the ones protesting with no masks on, against mask wearing, all while flying the Canadian flag upside down! Not once do they realize what kind of sacrifice it took/takes to defend that flag. It’s some Canadians who are the problem. All they care about is their “Charter”. They don’t realize how the charter came to be and how it’s defended DAILY!
There were 20000 reports of visitors potentially not following quarantine. There have also been some fines and even one arrest of people arriving from abroad and not respecting quarantine so it’s not just Canadians.
 

canuck78

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Quarantine Plan is not a requirement to apply for TRV. It is a good idea to discuss a brief plan in the cover letter, however. This will show the deciding agent that the visitor is aware of a 14 day quarantine requirements and the rules that need to be followed during the 14 days.

My wife landed @ YYZ via YVR last Thursday. She got a call on yesterday from a health official to find out if she is in quarantine. They asked her a bunch of quarantine related questions. She asked the agent if I am allowed to leave home or go to work. The agent said: "Yes, your husband CAN leave home and CAN go to work. Only foreign visitors to Canada are subject to the interim order.
Did the public health official ask if she is quarantining separately from you? If you aren’t then you shouldn’t be going to work. If you are not quarantining from each other there has been a miscommunication and you should call your local public health office and clarify.
 

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They are giving out fines for not isolating properly so if someone does find out that your family is not quarantining separately from you and you are going out you could get a pretty big fine. Your lack of quarantine could also lead to someone dying which should be reason enough.
There is no such requirement for isolating separately. It is recommended but it is not a must. Unless we are talking about vulnerable people
 

CDNsoldier

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There is no such requirement for isolating separately. It is recommended but it is not a must. Unless we are talking about vulnerable people
Correct. Plus there IS a difference between self quarantine (mandatory for all foreign visitors WITHOUT SYMPTOMS) and self isolation (which is req'd for ALL who have symptoms). When you have symptoms and need to self isolate you cannot be in contact with anyone.
 

canuck78

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There is no such requirement for isolating separately. It is recommended but it is not a must. Unless we are talking about vulnerable people
If you are living with someone who returned from abroad and you continue to work you could be spreading the virus. There is asymptomatic transmission and by the time you became symptomatic you could have already spread the virus to so many people. In this case there is no isolation from the other household member. That's not quarantine. This is exactly anyone at high risk still rarely leave their home.