Timeline for Filipinos submitted pnp-pr applctions at CIO

[reynold21]

Hi,

Kailangan specific, pag sinabi mo kasing "kasama sa application" - ano pa din ang declaration mo sa kanila?

Example 1:
"Kasama sa application" - isinulat mo ang mga pangalan nila as dependents (kasama sa application pa din), pero inilagay mo na Non-Accompanying sila.

So kung ganito - declared as dependents sila sa application, pero Non-Accompanying - so di sila kasama sa bibigyan ng visa. Mag-aaply sila as PA ng sarili nilang PR application. In this scenario - di mo kailangan bayaran ang RPRF nila. Sila na ang magbabayad nun sa sarili nilang PR application. Bale hindi sila kasama sa pag-immigrate mo sa Canada. Pwede pa rin sila mai-sponsoran sa ibang panahon, dahil na-declare mo na sila as dependents. Or mag-apply sila ng hiwalay.

Example 2:
"Kasama sa application" - isinulat mo ang mga pangalan nila as dependents (kasama sa application pa din), pero inilagay mo na Accompanying sila. (will accompany you to Canada)

So kung ganito - declared as dependents sila sa application, at Accompanying - so kasama sa bibigyan ng visa at kasama sila sa application mo to immigrate to Canada. Kahit mauna ka, at di sila kasabay sa pag-alis, tapos na ang application nila, dahil "kasama" sila sa application mo para mag-immigrate. Di nila kailangan mag-apply ng hiwalay bilang PA para mag-immigrate. Kaya kailangan bayaran mo ang RPRF ng mga dependents sa ganitong scenario.

Alin dito (Example 1 or 2) and sitwasyon mo?

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salamat ulit ragluf..oo declared as dependents sila pero non accompanying,yung last email sa akin ng cem pinag fifill up ulit ako ng bagong imm 0008 pero nkalagay din sa request nila mga passports ng dependents ko pati processing fee,nung nagsend ako ng application nung una sarili ko lng binayaran ko sa proceesing fee ewan ko bkt ngaun kelangan magbayad para sa non accompanying..iniisip ko lng na bk inilagay lng sa request nila un kasi gagawa ulit ako ng bagong imm 0008..

 

[ragluf]

salamat ulit ragluf..oo declared as dependents sila pero non accompanying,yung last email sa akin ng cem pinag fifill up ulit ako ng bagong imm 0008 pero nkalagay din sa request nila mga passports ng dependents ko pati processing fee,nung nagsend ako ng application nung una sarili ko lng binayaran ko sa proceesing fee ewan ko bkt ngaun kelangan magbayad para sa non accompanying..iniisip ko lng na bk inilagay lng sa request nila un kasi gagawa ulit ako ng bagong imm 0008..

I see. So it seems nakita din ng VO na hindi yata tama or hindi yun ang intention mo, kaya pinagagawa ka ng bagong IMM008. Maaring di nagtally ang mga nakalagay sa ibang forms dito sa IMM008 mo kaya minabuti na gumawa ka na lang ng bagong IMM008 para klaro ang intensyon mo na isasama mo talaga sa pag-immigrate ang mga dependents mo, pero hindi sila sasabay sa iyo sa pagpunta agad-agad.

Sa processing fees naman, dahilan sa ngayon isasama na rin sila sa application mo at sila din ay daraan sa proceso ng pagsusuri tulad mo, natural lang na kakailanganin ang processing fees para sa kanila. Dito mo makikita ang mga kailangan bayaran na processing fees: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/fees.asp

Economic classes

Federal Skilled Workers, Quebec Skilled Workers, Canadian Experience Class, and Provincial Nominees

Principal applicant $550

A family member of the principal applicant who is $550
22 years of age or older, or is less than 22 years of age
and is a spouse or common-law partner

A family member of the principal applicant who is $150
less than 22 years of age and is not a spouse or common-law partner

.../atb

 

[reynold21]

I see. So it seems nakita din ng VO na hindi yata tama or hindi yun ang intention mo, kaya pinagagawa ka ng bagong IMM008. Maaring di nagtally ang mga nakalagay sa ibang forms dito sa IMM008 mo kaya minabuti na gumawa ka na lang ng bagong IMM008 para klaro ang intensyon mo na isasama mo talaga sa pag-immigrate ang mga dependents mo, pero hindi sila sasabay sa iyo sa pagpunta agad-agad.

Sa processing fees naman, dahilan sa ngayon isasama na rin sila sa application mo at sila din ay daraan sa proceso ng pagsusuri tulad mo, natural lang na kakailanganin ang processing fees para sa kanila. Dito mo makikita ang mga kailangan bayaran na processing fees: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/fees.asp

Economic classes

Federal Skilled Workers, Quebec Skilled Workers, Canadian Experience Class, and Provincial Nominees

Principal applicant $550

A family member of the principal applicant who is $550
22 years of age or older, or is less than 22 years of age
and is a spouse or common-law partner

A family member of the principal applicant who is $150
less than 22 years of age and is not a spouse or common-law partner

.../atb

so ibig sabihin ba dapat accompanying mga dependents ko kahit di ko muna sila isama agad2? tama ba? pasensya na kung medyo alanganin mga tanung ko akala ko lang kasi pag di isasama mga dependents dapat check ung non accompanying e.. so kailangan ko ba tlga bayaran yung processing fee nila? di din kc aabot yung passport nung isang dependent ko e 1 month lang binigay nilang palugit.. salamat sa po sa mga reply..

 

[ragluf]

so ibig sabihin ba dapat accompanying mga dependents ko kahit di ko muna sila isama agad2? tama ba? pasensya na kung medyo alanganin mga tanung ko akala ko lang kasi pag di isasama mga dependents dapat check ung non accompanying e.. so kailangan ko ba tlga bayaran yung processing fee nila? di din kc aabot yung passport nung isang dependent ko e 1 month lang binigay nilang palugit.. salamat sa po sa mga reply..

Paki basa yung nauna kong reply - Example 2 ka.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/timeline-for-filipinos-submitted-pnppr-applctions-at-cio-t93206.0.html;msg3115299#msg3115299

Uulitin ko gaya ng isinulat ko sa mga nauna kong reply, kung "kasama" mo ang mga dependents mo (Accompanying) sa pag-immigrate, magbabayad ka ng:
- processing fee para sa mga dependents mo
- RPRF
Ang resulta nito, pwede kang mauna, susunod sila, di na nila kailangan mag-apply sila ng hiwalay.

(Kapag inilagay mo sila as Non-Accompanying - di mo na kailangan bayaran ang processing fee nila, at hindi ka rin required magbayad ng RPRF nila. PERO di sila makakasunod sa iyo at kailangan nila mag-apply ulit separately sa iyo o sponsoran mo under Family sponsorship. Suma nito - patatagalin mo ang pagsunod nila, at baka magka-aberya pa sa sponsorship).

kapatid - iba ang ibig sabihin ng "accompanying/non-accompanying" dito sa application. Hindi nito ibig sabihin di sila "sasabay/hindi sasabay" sa iyo sa pagpunta mo, ang ibig sabihin nito - 'isasama mo/hindi mo isasama' sila sa pag-immigrate mo.

../yeko?

 

[reynold21]

Paki basa yung nauna kong reply - Example 2 ka.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/timeline-for-filipinos-submitted-pnppr-applctions-at-cio-t93206.0.html;msg3115299#msg3115299

Uulitin ko gaya ng isinulat ko sa mga nauna kong reply, kung "kasama" mo ang mga dependents mo (Accompanying) sa pag-immigrate, magbabayad ka ng:
- processing fee para sa mga dependents mo
- RPRF
Ang resulta nito, pwede kang mauna, susunod sila, di na nila kailangan mag-apply sila ng hiwalay.

(Kapag inilagay mo sila as Non-Accompanying - di mo na kailangan bayaran ang processing fee nila, at hindi ka rin required magbayad ng RPRF nila. PERO di sila makakasunod sa iyo at kailangan nila mag-apply ulit separately sa iyo o sponsoran mo under Family sponsorship. Suma nito - patatagalin mo ang pagsunod nila, at baka magka-aberya pa sa sponsorship).

kapatid - iba ang ibig sabihin ng "accompanying/non-accompanying" dito sa application. Hindi nito ibig sabihin di sila "sasabay/hindi sasabay" sa iyo sa pagpunta mo, ang ibig sabihin nito - 'isasama mo/hindi mo isasama' sila sa pag-immigrate mo.

../yeko?

ayun! mali pala ung non accompanying na nilagay ko kasi isasama ko nmn tlga sila ndi muna sa ngaun.. salamat sir! parang kaming may kausap na immigration officer.. ang galing! ;D

 

[lencabz]

Ano ba laman ng eCAS mo? Anong date lumabas ang "Medical Results have been received"?

Rarely para sa isang PNP nominee na aabutan ng expiry ng medicals, which is right now ang longer period ng timeline mo. Kung susuriin ang average processing time is pwedeng sukatin ng:
AOR-CIO <------(average processing time published by CIC for the VO)--------> DM

Sinasabi ko na hanggang DM kasi hanggang dito na lang ang bulk ng trabaho ng mga officer at iilang araw na lang ang pagitan para ibalik ang PPs na me visa at madalas hindi na aabutin ng buwan para maibalik ang PPs, kaya negligibile na kung ikukumpara sa buong processing time. Kung lalagpas na sa medicals results received date ang application processing mo, expect na me re-medical request na ipadadala sa iyo. Pero bihira ito - madalas sa ibang class na more than 1 year ang processing time nangyayari ito.

Madalas ang validity ng visa is ibinabase sa medicals:
Medical results received <------(1 year) -------> visa expiry date

Pero maaring maging maiksi ito at ang madalas na dahilan ay ang passport validity mas maiksi kesa sa 1 year validity ng visa. Hindi nag-issue ng visa ng mas mahaba sa validity ng passport, kaya siguraduhin na ang ibibigay na PPs sa VO ay mahaba pa sa isang taon ang natitirang validity.

iha, base sa http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/inFORMation/times/perm/provincial.asp#asia - 12 months ang processing time ng CEM. Kelan ka nag AOR sa CEM? So ang masasabi ko lang - kung lagpas na sa processing time na nakasaad or published nila, nasa lugar ka na para mangalampag sa VO. Sa kadahilanan di nila sinunod ang isinaad nila na processing times, kaya wag ka mag-atubili na mag-padala ng abiso, request ng status - at parati mo ipauuna sa mga liham/sulat/email mo, na lagpas na sila sa processing time.

.../atb

Hi ragluf,

my apologies, d pala pumasok yong reply ko sa inyo. ecas po ni hubby: (sya kasi principal applicant)
Application Received: June 5, 2013
Started Processing: September 26, 2013
Med. Request : August 2013, (done September 2013)
Medical Results Received: Oct 2013 (1st week)
Additional Docs submitted: Oct 22, 2013
(still in process)...

Actually, we send follow-ups this April and May, still no reply. We sent it thru email and fax. Are they entertaining follow-ups in person?

thanks!

 

[rcg]

Hello forum mates, updates on my apps:
April 25, 2014- Medical done me and my 2 kids, si hubby we decided to delay because my cough sya nun
RPRF- according to the bank MC was encashed May 2, 2014 by the embassy
May 6, 2014- Nagpa medicals na husband ko then after 2 days may namisscall sa CP nya, worried ako baka re sa medicals yun tinawagan ko SLEC global, then the nurse told me na wala naman issues samin ng mga anak ko but my husband needs Pulmo-Evaluation ng doctor sa SLEC ermita and scheduled on May 13, 2014. Naisip ko na kaagad na baka mag undergo sya sputum exam, kaya lang base sa mga nasearch ko sa mga forums, binibigyan na ng sched agad for 3 consecutive days then after the smear result came out saka yung pulmo-evaluation. Sa case nya titingnan daw muna ng doctor and pinapadala lahat ng old xray films which is puro normal naman.
May mga cases ba na nakaexperience na for pulmo evaluation na hindi nagundergo ng sputum smear and culture? instead repeat Physical exam and xray lang or other test? kasi di ba matagal ang result noon.Kasi naisip ko kasi nga galing sya sa ubo and may history pa ng asthma kaya baka may nakita something sa xray nya. Kasi normal naman chest xray nya 3 months and 1 year ago eh. Anyone who had idea or actually had experience on this? Thanks in advance.

 

[ragluf]

Hello forum mates, updates on my apps:
April 25, 2014- Medical done me and my 2 kids, si hubby we decided to delay because my cough sya nun
RPRF- according to the bank MC was encashed May 2, 2014 by the embassy
May 6, 2014- Nagpa medicals na husband ko then after 2 days may namisscall sa CP nya, worried ako baka re sa medicals yun tinawagan ko SLEC global, then the nurse told me na wala naman issues samin ng mga anak ko but my husband needs Pulmo-Evaluation ng doctor sa SLEC ermita and scheduled on May 13, 2014. Naisip ko na kaagad na baka mag undergo sya sputum exam, kaya lang base sa mga nasearch ko sa mga forums, binibigyan na ng sched agad for 3 consecutive days then after the smear result came out saka yung pulmo-evaluation. Sa case nya titingnan daw muna ng doctor and pinapadala lahat ng old xray films which is puro normal naman.
May mga cases ba na nakaexperience na for pulmo evaluation na hindi nagundergo ng sputum smear and culture? instead repeat Physical exam and xray lang or other test? kasi di ba matagal ang result noon.Kasi naisip ko kasi nga galing sya sa ubo and may history pa ng asthma kaya baka may nakita something sa xray nya. Kasi normal naman chest xray nya 3 months and 1 year ago eh. Anyone who had idea or actually had experience on this? Thanks in advance.

Try asking in this thread.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/pulmonary-tuberculosisactiveinactivehistorysputum-tests6-mos-medication-t150897.0.html

Those who have been scheduled for medical furtherance do add in a couple of months to processing, but this has not happened yet to you, so hope everything works out first with the initial sputum exams.

../atb

 

[ragluf]

ayun! mali pala ung non accompanying na nilagay ko kasi isasama ko nmn tlga sila ndi muna sa ngaun..

Good thing - me chance ka na to correct this. So make sure klaro sa new IMM0008 ang intention mo - accompanying sila.

Down the line, after makuha nyo na ang mga visa, pwede ka na mauna then the rest follows. Make sure lang they land before their visas expire.

../atb

 

[darksiders]

medical receive na ng CIO sabi sa isang forum 2 to 3 weeks or a month me PPR na lahat ng additional docs nasa kanila na din at RPRF sakto din na sa may 21st expired na ang AINP namen o yun yung ika 6th month from the date of issue sana passport request na kami

 

[ragluf]

Hi ragluf,

my apologies, d pala pumasok yong reply ko sa inyo. ecas po ni hubby: (sya kasi principal applicant)
Application Received: June 5, 2013
Started Processing: September 26, 2013
Med. Request : August 2013, (done September 2013)
Medical Results Received: Oct 2013 (1st week)
Additional Docs submitted: Oct 22, 2013
(still in process)...

Actually, we send follow-ups this April and May, still no reply. We sent it thru email and fax. Are they entertaining follow-ups in person?

thanks!

No worries on that reply. In response,

VOs do not usually respond to follow-ups if the application is still within published processing times. You may get a 'canned' response - meaning a standard, generic response acknowledging your message but it does not provide you any information. And follow-ups are also not entertained that much in person, unless there are strong grounds (i.e. it is an error on their side for which they are liable) for you to seek an appointment in person. There should be strong proof of that. Nevertheless you have already made your "presence" known by sending follow-ups, so the VO knows you are actively engaged in monitoring progress.

If there is a way for you to get GCMS/ATIP notes, that gives more details on where the application is and what is pending. If your husband is in Canada, or if someone you know is in Canada they can get this for you but it takes 1 month to get the results. So it may not matter if you request for this at this time. Given if all requested has been with them since 10/22/13, then your file may be queued for final assessement/DM. The assumption is what is maybe pending is the security assessment - as this is where we have no input. Think of this a security background check done through their own security agencies. As soon as this is done (assuming this is the only one pending on the admissibility assessements/checks), then a PPR is expected to be sent out. Now - what is looming here is the expected visa validity of 10/2014 (based on the MR), which is 6mos away, so on this, expect correspondence to be sent out sooner in the coming weeks. Check your email, and spam folder always, otherwise, set a filter in the email application so emails from known CIC/VO addresses will not be automatically sent to spam.

Are you using an agent/representative or this is a DIY/self-application?

../atb

 

[wgz808]

medical receive na ng CIO sabi sa isang forum 2 to 3 weeks or a month me PPR na lahat ng additional docs nasa kanila na din at RPRF sakto din na sa may 21st expired na ang AINP namen o yun yung ika 6th month from the date of issue sana passport request na kami

Hello po.. Ask ko lang kung ano additional docs ang ni request ng embassy? Thanks..

 

[lencabz]

No worries on that reply. In response,

VOs do not usually respond to follow-ups if the application is still within published processing times. You may get a 'canned' response - meaning a standard, generic response acknowledging your message but it does not provide you any information. And follow-ups are also not entertained that much in person, unless there are strong grounds (i.e. it is an error on their side for which they are liable) for you to seek an appointment in person. There should be strong proof of that. Nevertheless you have already made your "presence" known by sending follow-ups, so the VO knows you are actively engaged in monitoring progress.

If there is a way for you to get GCMS/ATIP notes, that gives more details on where the application is and what is pending. If your husband is in Canada, or if someone you know is in Canada they can get this for you but it takes 1 month to get the results. So it may not matter if you request for this at this time. Given if all requested has been with them since 10/22/13, then your file may be queued for final assessement/DM. The assumption is what is maybe pending is the security assessment - as this is where we have no input. Think of this a security background check done through their own security agencies. As soon as this is done (assuming this is the only one pending on the admissibility assessements/checks), then a PPR is expected to be sent out. Now - what is looming here is the expected visa validity of 10/2014 (based on the MR), which is 6mos away, so on this, expect correspondence to be sent out sooner in the coming weeks. Check your email, and spam folder always, otherwise, set a filter in the email application so emails from known CIC/VO addresses will not be automatically sent to spam.

Are you using an agent/representative or this is a DIY/self-application?

../atb

We don't have agent/representative. My hubby's uncle and cousins are there in Canada. They actually helped us in our application. Ang worry ko baka aabutin ng expiration ng medical namin or baka ang application namin is inadmissible. wag naman sana.. last mail na nareceive namin from embassy is last February saying na we have to attend CIIP orientation, so we go to Manila para mag-attend nga session baka kasi yon ang hinihintay ng embassy na i-join namin. One thing more is diabetic po ako pero in control naman po, baka yon din ang isang cause ng delay?

thanks again..

 

[ragluf]

We don't have agent/representative. My hubby's uncle and cousins are there in Canada. They actually helped us in our application....

Ask them to apply for GCMS/ATIP notes for the application so you can get more details:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/atip/requests-personal.asp
It is free for those in Canada making the request.

.../atb

 

[darksiders]

@ragluf how long does it takes for the ppr after medical receive?