Timeline for Filipinos submitted pnp-pr applctions at CIO

[interested]

Plan namin temporary sa Delta, kayo ba saan?

metro vancouver, most probably surrey. nandun lahat ng relatives namin.

 

[ragluf]

Thank you for the info, ragluf. If this is the case, bakit may mga naghihintay ng 3 - 4 months from 'in process' to 'ppr'? what's happening between those period?

Hi,

See here - the explanation by qorax is still one of the best....
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/what-is-bfd-explained-t39705.0.html;msg269069#msg269069

Especially that of the security checks - parte ng admissibility checks ang security. Ang me input tayo is criminality (i.e PCC) and medical (i.e. IME/MR). Wala tayong input sa security (i.e. RCMP screening or sometimes inter-agency inquiry)

Unfortunately, karamihan ng nasa forums di na kumukuha ng GCMS as soon as nakakuha na ng PPR kaya walang recent na information sa updates na GCMS kung ano ang talagang nagaganap between in-process at PPR.

Base sa GCMS ko nun na nakuha ko before habang 'medicals received' ako nakasaad dun na complete na ang assessments ko sa medicals (passed) - pero ang security at criminality ko - not started. At walang Final Assessment pa....

Ang actual na nakasaad sa Application Status ko is - Open. At ang Reason - In Progress...

Pero maliwanag na natanggap na nila ang RPRF ko kasi nakasaad nadin dun sa notes na nakuha ko is RPRF: Complete. Maliwanag din na natanggap nila ang mga PCC ko dahil sa notes sa huli maliwanang na ang update sa notes is natanggap nila nung date na dumating sa CEM. Kaya ang obserbasyon ko, natanggap nga nila ang hiningi nila na reqts. pero wala pang tumitingin na officer para gawin ang assessement ng bawat isa (security, criminality etc.)

Maaring ang hinhintay mula sa 'in process' hanggang PPR - ang Final Assessment. Base sa mga PPR - eto ang madalas nakasaad: We are pleased to inform you that your visa(s) for permanent residence to Canada is/are ready to be issued, conditional to a final admissibility review by an immigration officer.

Kung wala naman nagbago sa estado ng applicant - itong final admissibility review ay madalas promalidad na lamang - sinisigurado lang bago ibigay ang visa na ang applicant at ang taong nakalagay sa pasaporte ay iisa, at hindi nagpalit ng estado (ikinasal, me bagong anak, nagpalit ng passport etc.). Kaya ang obserbasyon ay - maaring itong Final Assessment ang hinhintay upang malipat mula 'in process' patungo ng paglabas ng PPR. Meron naman na mabilis lang ang paglipat mula sa 'in process', maaring iisa lang ang officer na gumagawa ng assessment. Sa nakita ko sa GCMS, iba ibang initial ng VO ang gumawa ng mga updates sa bawat assessment ng application ko at maaring ito rin ang dahilan na tumagal din ang status ko mula 'medicals received' patungo PPR.

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[ramcal]

paano po malalaman na CIO received na? tsaka saan npo maiinform na CIO-appoved na? thru email or maill?thnx

hello, can you help me with me inquiry? thanks in advance

 

[ad123164]

hello, can you help me with me inquiry? thanks in advance

Check mo du'n sa courier na pinagpadalhan mo. Usually, you can track at their website using the tracking/waybill no. of the package. AOR-CIO is received through email.

 

[akinito]

Wow, thank you again sir ragluf. Very informative and helpful but then I really need to think hundred times to do this. If I will not appoint her as my full representative, can she still make some letter inquiry regarding my application? Another think I have also agency here in he Philippines (a paid representative), it might have a conflict so I rather ask my representative what will be the best option for this. But anyway thank you very much ragluf, you are really a big help to all of us here. God Bless Sir.

@ akinito - see here
@ zepthkinsey - likely #2 is your option if only for getting GCMS
Meron ka palang alternative via your sister-in-law - di mo nasabi ng maaga....

Me two options ka:
1. Appoint her na full representative. (unpaid/uncompensated representative). Eto ang links na makakatulong sa iyo, lalo na ang video in filling up the form.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/multimedia/video/representative/representative.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5561E.asp

Take note lang - as a full representative, lahat ng business dadaan na sa kanya - hindi na direct sa iyo. Kung meron man correspondence - sa kanya dadaan bago sa iyo. Basahin mo ng maigi ang guide, ipabasa sa iba kung nagkakatugma ba ang pagkakaintindi nyo pareho, at kung sakaling eto ang balak mo, ipabasa ng maigi sa sister-in-law mo para malaman nya ang responsibilities nya.

As full representative - will be able to obtain information on your case file, such as the status of your application and will be able to conduct business on your behalf with CIC.

2. Allow her to get information on your behalf (authorize her) - pero hindi sya full representative.
Release of information to other individuals
To authorize CIC to release information from your case file to someone other than a representative, you will need to complete the form Authority to Release Personal Information to a Designated Individual (IMM 5475) (PDF, 1.75 MB). The form is also available from Canadian embassies, high commissions and consulates abroad.

The person you designate will be able to obtain information on your case file, such as the status of your application. However, they will not be able to conduct business on your behalf with CIC.

Use the form below: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5475e.pdf

Madalas ginagamit itong authorization under a request for GCMS/ATIP using another person in Canada. IMHO, itong authorization is good enough to cover asking her MP about inquiring about your file, as long as inquiry lang sa status ng application - nothing else. Pwede sya na kumuha ng GCMS notes for your application (libre for citizens, or those residing in Canada). Pwede rin sya na tumawag sa Call Centre ng CIC (toll free in Canada) pero balewala kasi ang file mo is being processed in the PH, not inland in Canada .

Isipin ng mabuti kung ano ang balak, then decide. Expect din ng dagdag na days sa application kasi - this is an update in your application. Either way - me confirmation response from the VO yan before the appointed representative can start inquiring on your behalf.

Now personally I will add in a word of caution lalo na with appointing a full representative. Medyo malaki na ang responsibility and related consequences of misrepresentation sa isang full representative - lalo na with Bill C-35 na naipass. Pwede ka ma-refuse because of misrepresentation on information of an authorized representative. Kaya isipin ng mabuti ang balak.

On ordering GCMS via ATIP - si user828 made a very good video - see here: Video: How to Order ATIP/GCMS - http://goo.gl/zl3UP
Acknowledge user828 if this helped you by a +1.

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[interested]

Hi,

See here - the explanation by qorax is still one of the best....
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/what-is-bfd-explained-t39705.0.html;msg269069#msg269069

thank you for this. im enlightened. in a nutshell, when CEM asks applicants to submit something, do it immediately.

 

[ragluf]

Wow, thank you again sir ragluf. Very informative and helpful but then I really need to think hundred times to do this. If I will not appoint her as my full representative, can she still make some letter inquiry regarding my application? Another think I have also agency here in he Philippines (a paid representative), it might have a conflict so I rather ask my representative what will be the best option for this. But anyway thank you very much ragluf, you are really a big help to all of us here. God Bless Sir.

Ah there - another detail - you have a paid representative/agency.

You paid good money for your representative, and they are in the business of immigration. Exert every other pressure you can on them to bring you results and updates as they (being in the business of immigration) should have excellent contacts as well as have lawyers and consultants who should know more about the immigration process rather than us here in the forum . You should get your money's worth - and you should not be seeking alternatives to getting your application status when this is the primary job of the representative at this stage. I will be screaming hell to high water at my representative if they are dependent on eCAS - what is the difference and what is the value they provide being an immigration agency?

Work with them first - they are your primary avenue to getting timely updates. Ask them...better yet...demand from them to get GCMS notes for you as you have appointed them as a full representative and CIC can release information to them. They - as a immigration agency - should have the means to do so.

You cannot appoint your sister-in-law as your full representative without removing your agency first.
You can still fill in the form Authority to Release Personal Information to a Designated Individual (IMM 5475) http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5475e.pdf - to authorize CIC to release information from your case file to someone other than a representative, that will allow your sister-in-law to inquire status of your application.

Still - get your money's worth from the agency. You should not be exerting any effort in trying to get information on your application - they (the immigration agency) should be the ones beholden to your requests.

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[ramcal]

Check mo du'n sa courier na pinagpadalhan mo. Usually, you can track at their website using the tracking/waybill no. of the package. AOR-CIO is received through email.

thanks ad....really appreciate your response...my docs is in mississauga already, expected t o arrive in sydney,ns tomorrow..hope and pray that there is no mistakes in filling up the forms...

 

[ragluf]

thank you for this. im enlightened. in a nutshell, when CEM asks applicants to submit something, do it immediately.

You also have to note that officers can be re-assigned, re-tasked etc. The process Qorax has explained is totally dependent on the officers to do the job regularly and expeditiously. Factors beyond their control - re-assignment, rotation, or this strike, do impact a lot. The labor culture here is you do not have to worry about the work you are leaving if you are re-assigned/relocated - you drop everything and move on. It is the task of the department to compensate and pick up the pieces. This human factor plays a lot in the delays - if you look at the experience of applicants in the Buffalo NY office - the closure and transfer of that processing centre has caused a lot of delays to applicants there - missing paperwork, untracked applications - long delays.

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[zepthkinsey]

You also have to note that officers can be re-assigned, re-tasked etc. The process Qorax has explained is totally dependent on the officers to do the job regularly and expeditiously. Factors beyond their control - re-assignment, rotation, or this strike, do impact a lot. The labor culture here is you do not have to worry about the work you are leaving if you are re-assigned/relocated - you drop everything and move on. It is the task of the department to compensate and pick up the pieces. This human factor plays a lot in the delays - if you look at the experience of applicants in the Buffalo NY office - the closure and transfer of that processing centre has caused a lot of delays to applicants there - missing paperwork, untracked applications - long delays.

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hi sir ragluf my brother will get GCMS notes for me,.,after that what will happen?,.,is it possible of visa denial at this stage of our application?,.,

 

[ragluf]

hi sir ragluf my brother will get GCMS notes for me,.,after that what will happen?,.,is it possible of visa denial at this stage of our application?,.,

You have no information yet leading you to this conclusion, that is actually trying to predict the future Granted you have nothing to hide and have filled out the application forms truthfully and declared willingly, complied to every request and provided them within the deadlines - is there something that you have not disclosed?

Generally - here are the reasons for inadmissibility:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/who.asp

Take it a step at a time. The application process is a lengthy one - if you have cast your future on this then be prepared to toughen it out for the duration of the application process (PNP at CEM ~ currently 11 months). Set your expectations to this timeline - it will lessen the worries on you. It is hard - I have gone through the same experience - but I know it is harder for you folks pre-2008 applicants - nothing will ever compensate for the lost time.

Beyond this - CIC/CEM and whoever is in the immigration process - becomes accountable to you - and you can wring their necks out in pressuring them for action - even (as some have been contemplating) - to sue/do legal action to them for false promises. The mere threat of this is sometimes actually enough to bring action on your applications.

Start with getting your GCMS notes first. Then act accordingly armed with information from GCMS.

Have faith everything will work out - there is a silver lining at the end of the wait....lots of applicants have the same concerns and fears as you and have come out successful.

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[zepthkinsey]

You have no information yet leading you to this conclusion, that is actually trying to predict the future Granted you have nothing to hide and have filled out the application forms truthfully and declared willingly, complied to every request and provided them within the deadlines - is there something that you have not disclosed?

Generally - here are the reasons for inadmissibility:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/who.asp

Take it a step at a time. The application process is a lengthy one - if you have cast your future on this then be prepared to toughen it out for the duration of the application process (PNP at CEM ~ currently 11 months). Set your expectations to this timeline - it will lessen the worries on you. It is hard - I have gone through the same experience - but I know it is harder for you folks pre-2008 applicants - nothing will ever compensate for the lost time.

Beyond this - CIC/CEM and whoever is in the immigration process - becomes accountable to you - and you can wring their necks out in pressuring them for action - even (as some have been contemplating) - to sue/do legal action to them for false promises. The mere threat of this is sometimes actually enough to bring action on your applications.

Start with getting your GCMS notes first. Then act accordingly armed with information from GCMS.

Have faith everything will work out - there is a silver lining at the end of the wait....lots of applicants have the same concerns and fears as you and have come out successful.

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thank you again sir! till next time,.,hope that good news will come our way,.,PPr na rin sana Lord!,.,pls.

 

[xasali]

Just sharing...

We received your application for permanent residence on December 7, 2012.

We started processing your application on April 9, 2013.

Medical results have been received.

A decision has been made on your application. The office will contact you concerning this decision.

Thank you Lord! sana umokay na talaga..

 

[mm15744]

Expected na "application received" pa rin - di pa natatapos ang admissibility checks.

Long before (2-3 batches ago) - napansin namin na me updates sa ECAS after matatapos ang "stages" na tinatawag sa processing. Karamihan sa "medicals received" - couple of weeks matapos matanggap ang results. Nagiging in-process, then a few days later PPR. Nung ibinangga ko sa GCMS notes ko, dun ko napansin na after matapos ang admissibility check updates - me date per check na makikita sa GCMS - roughly after a few days ng date ng update ng check saka nagkaroon ng update sa ECAS ko.

Nag "medicals received" status ako sa ECAS a few days after ng update sa medical checks ng file ko.....(date sa "status updated date").
Nag "in process" status ako sa ECAS a few days after ng update ng sa security checks at criminality checks sa file ko (base sa GCMS).
Eto din ang obserbasyon ng ibang kumuha ng GCMS.

Taliwas ito sa inaasahan natin na "medicals received" = kelan natanggap ng VO ang results; base sa obserbasyon, hindi - nagaganap ang "medicals received" kung me decision na at me status update sa file mo sa medical checks. Pareho din ng "in process" - base sa obserbasyon sa pagitan ng GCMS, ECAS at sariling timeline, makikita na kapag natapos na ang bawat admissibility check at lahat me decision na (security, criminality, medical etc.). Inaasahan din natin na "in process" dahil naibigay na natin lahat ng hiningi; base din sa obserbasyon sa pagitan ng ECAS, GCMS at sariling timelines, hindi din ito ang nangyayari - nagaganap ang update matapos ang decision sa bawat checks.

Makikita nyo malaking bagay talaga ang impormasyon na mula sa GCMS. Malaking tulong sa ikawawala ng sakit ng ulo sa pag-iisip.

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Hi, Just sharing my status:

Mine still has no medical received on e-Cas even though SLEC sent the result already on July 1.

My e-cas status is "In Process", when click got only two line of sentences (1) App rec'v on January 2013 and (2) We started processing your application on April 18, 2013

My RPRF negotiated on May 3 and Personal History received at CEM May 2 by guard named Frederick Beronia.

I really hope to get "medical result have been received" status.

 

[ragluf]

A decision has been made on your application. The office will contact you concerning this decision.

PPR ka na right?
Then....CONGRATULATIONS....DM ka na! ;D ;D ;D

...nothing to do but wait for your mamang kartero or friendly DHL delivery to bring back the PPs to you.
Also - one indication of a successul outcome is if your Provincial Nominee Program Office sends you an email welcoming you or instructing you on next steps on your settlement. It won't be long now....

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