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Thread for outland Buffalo applicants!

ddobro2

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I don't think it's a dumb question. As far as what Buffalo puts in the PPR, they don't go into any detail whatsoever, perhaps not surprisingly: "Within the next 30 days please submit your passport(s) or a photocopy of all passport pages for you and your accompanying family members," is all there is to it. If you look at the Operational Manual from last year, though, you'll see a bit more information as to why: "An officer may use discretion in determining whether it is necessary to see the original passport or whether a photocopy of all passport pages is sufficient. A photocopy of only the bio-data page is not acceptable, as notations may have been made on other pages regarding the individual’s name, marital status or other pertinent information."

As far as only copying the pages that are stamped, there's no way to know what the consequence of that will be until you actually do it, if you do it. I personally didn't want to bother with any risk or misinterpretation on mine or their part (not to mention that I had a student permit stamped into one of the pages of my passport and I didn't know what the protocol would be for how to copy that, if applicable), so I just sent the physical biometric passport in.

We also require two (2) recent photographs of yourself and each accompanying family member
awor said:
Here's a dumb question: When you submit a copy of your passport "and all pages," do you have to photocopy every single page of your passport, or only the ones with stamps on them?

I have 4 kids, plus my passport... all those pages ???
 

Quince777

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bloodyguitars said:
Utmost congratulation ddobro2!! Can you please post your timeline as a part of your signature? Goodluck for landing!
Are you a new Buffalo applicant? If yes, what's your timeline?
 

bloodyguitars

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Quince777 said:
Are you a new Buffalo applicant? If yes, what's your timeline?
Yes. It is as following. Iwill add this as a part of signature once I have enough posts!

App sent : 25th Oct 2011
Spon Approved: 18th Dec
Transferred to Buffalo: 7th Jan 2012
Received email from Buffalo for application received: 18th Jan 2012
Current status on ecas: Application Received on 26th Oct 2011

I have selected Seattle in application. Does anyone knows how long it takes before my application is transferred to Seattle?
Can anyone explain me the terms "AOR" please?

On a side note this is a great forum,keep up the good work guys!
 

Quince777

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bloodyguitars said:
Yes. It is as following. Iwill add this as a part of signature once I have enough posts!

App sent : 25th Oct 2011
Spon Approved: 18th Dec
Transferred to Buffalo: 7th Jan 2012
Received email from Buffalo for application received: 18th Jan 2012
Current status on ecas: Application Received on 26th Oct 2011
Welcome to our group!

Just a quick question: how did you know when your file was transferred to Buffalo? The reason I'm asking because in my sponsor approval e-mail it was mentioned that my app would be sent to Buffalo. I didn't have specific date when Buffalo received my app.
 

bloodyguitars

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Quince777 said:
Welcome to our group!

Just a quick question: how did you know when your file was transferred to Buffalo? The reason I'm asking because in my sponsor approval e-mail it was mentioned that my app would be sent to Buffalo. I didn't have specific date when Buffalo received my app.
Thank you. I received an email on saying that your file is being transferred to Buffalo and on 18th Jan received email from Buffalo of receipt of the application. So Buffalo might have gotten the application before that but didnt update me till 18th Jan.
 

jbruce

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TO Buffalo thread,

It came a lot sooner than expected, but I have just landed as a permanent resident in Canada. Believe it or not, I already have a SIN card and my wife and I just signed a lease on an apartment in Toronto. I have to finish a contract here in the states, but I will be visiting every weekend, moving stuff up there, and will be settled there come May.

Sorting out our immigration/work situation has been an incredible challenge. I'm sure many of you know exactly what I'm talking about. I wasn't able to work in Canada, and she wasn't able to work in the States. It was very painful to feel the constant uncertainty of our legal status in each other's country, to have to spend so much time apart, and it was financially difficult to both make sacrifices in terms of our work situations as we both had to take time off to visit one another. Crossing the border each time was becoming extremely stressful as well. We often got the gears and they often threatened us with non-entry, especially when she visited me in the states. We often felt powerless in knowing someone else could keep us apart if they just felt there was something fishy going on. Of course, we knew the laws and there wasn't anything fishy going on. We were honest each and every time and in the end, that seems to be what they're looking for. I found that being honest and explaining the whole situation clearly helps the process along.

I've been using this forum since last January about, to get answers to questions I had about beginning the process. I got great answers and lots of support. I came back here when I needed clarification about the application forms. I got great answers and lots of support. Once the application was filed, I came back here when I needed clarification about the waiting time line. I got great answers and lots of support. Thank you thank you thank you thank you. What a great forum. Thanks to everyone who helped me in my journey.

Now that I'm at this point in the journey, I wanted to give back to the forum by telling my story. ddobro, feel free to add some dates to the spreadsheet.

What I've shared in the forum so far:

We sent our application on July 23, 2011.
They received it on July 26, 2011.
My wife received an email saying that she was eligible as a sponsor and that the application was sent to Buffalo on October 17, 2011.

We were very happy for that email in October of course. I started logging in online to check the status, but it was a little unclear. For example, the email had said my wife was eligible, but the online status said her application was in process. So, I logged on here to ask people's opinions about the online piece, and everyone said basically that it doesn't necessarily get updated at the same time emails get sent out.

So, at this point, we knew that the application was sent to Buffalo. On the web site, it says Buffalo has an 11 month processing time. That felt like an eternity. People on here said that perhaps it could come through quicker, say 7 or 8 months. Someone mentioned that some applications were being completed in 4 or 5 months. We didn't know what to expect.

I was doing more research trying to ascertain what the next notification would be. I looked up AOR, PPR to make sure I knew what those terms meant. In the midst of doing that, I received an email saying that my application had been received. This email (the AOR, acknowledgement of receipt ) was sent to me, whereas the October 17 email was sent to my wife. So she received the notification in October that she had been approved and it was being transferred to start my application. I received notification on December 14, that my application had been received.

I was very relieved to receive that, at least because now I knew they had the right email address and I was receiving correspondence from them. Of course, I was also relieved that I had confirmation from Buffalo that it was received ok in the mail and it was on someone's desk to begin a process.

So, now I said to myself, "Is it 11 months from now?" We were still unsure what the time line was.

I received that email (AOR) on December 14, 2011. On December 30, 2011 my wife received an email saying:

"This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada. We are now in a position to finalise your application."

This was absolutely amazing. We were so amazed and happy. It explained the process for completing the application. In the body of the email it requested that I mail my passport within 30 days. In the email it said "You must submit these items by mail." This is the PPR, passport request.

But we clicked a link below on "Instructions for Passport submission" and it said we could also go to the consulate in person and that often they are able to return the passport the same day. You can go Tuesdays or Thursdays in the morning between 8 and 10am.

This email was perfectly timed. I was up in Toronto celebrating Christmas with my wife and her family but I had to come down to the States to work for a weekend. I drove down on the next Thursday and went to the consulate in Buffalo. I waited in line for 10 minutes, told the nice woman that I was approved for permanent resident and she said "OK, please wait over there." and within an hour and a half I was led into an interview room and another nice woman said "This completes the process." and she handed me an envelope with a paper that says "Confirmation of Permanent Residence." She said the passport didn't need a visa stamp because it's an American passport. So, Americans just get the "Confirmation" form.

Once I had that in my hands and went down to the lobby I cried. The relief was incredible.

Once you receive the Confirmation of Permanent Residence form, there's an expiration date on it, so you need to land within a few months of getting your confirmation or else it expires. I worked that weekend in the States, and then was driving back up the following Tuesday, so it worked out well for me to just land right away. I drove up, told the border guard that I was visiting my wife and I also need to land as a permanent resident.

She told me to pull over to the building. I went inside and met a nice man who took my "Confirmation of Permanent Residence" form and asked me to sit down for a bit while he processed it. I came back up in a few minutes, signed it, and that made me a landed permanent resident of Canada.

He clarified a few things for me that I asked about. He said the actual permanent resident card would take 6 weeks in the mail, but in the meanwhile he stapled my "Confirmation of Permanent Residence" form into my passport. He said I could use that going back and forth while I move all of my stuff up to Toronto. I thought I was going to need a travel document for each trip in and out.

Also, he gave me a sheet to write down all of the expensive things I would be moving up to Canada. If you declare them when you land, you don't have to pay taxes on them, even if you bring them up at a later date. I listed the expensive stuff, car, computers, jewelry, etc.

When I was back in town, I went to city hall and applied for a SIN, and it came within a couple of weeks in the mail, so I have that now. OHIP (health insurance) and driver's license will be coming soon once I get my name on a couple of bills for the new apartment. You have to show active residence to receive healthcare. I think you need residence for the driver's license as well.

So, I hope the recounting of my process is helpful for people on here. Even if I help one person, I'm happy to have shared my story. It can feel so daunting and uncertain, I found hearing other peoples' stories and explanations of things really helped calm me when I didn't know what to expect.

To recap:

July 23 - Application Mailed
July 26 - Application Received
October 17 - Sponsor received initial email confirming eligibility and transfer to buffalo
December 14 - Sponsored received email saying application was received in buffalo (AOR)
December 30 - Sponsor received email finalizing application and passport request (PPR)
January 5, - Sponsored got Confirmation of Permanent Residence in Buffalo in person
January 10 - Sponsored signed Confirmation of Permanent Residence at the Lewiston border, aka Landed


I again want to say thank you to all those who helped me through this process. Each step along the way there was someone here willing to quickly provide support and clear answers for my questions.

Wishing everyone the best and strength in getting through such a stressful process.
 

Kiri

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App. Filed.......
18-05-2012 App. Return....: 30-8-2012 App. Refiled....: 02-01-2013
Doc's Request.
24-01-2013
AOR Received.
23-01-2013 Mississauga 10-05-2013 Ottawa
File Transfer...
19-02-2013
Med's Request
23-07-2013 (New XRay)
Med's Done....
11-05-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Decision Made 03-09-2013 without PPR
VISA ISSUED...
27-09-2013
LANDED..........
04-12-2013
CONGRATS!!! I'm so happy for you!!!

Now I have a question for everyone.

After much talking with what would be my CL in May we decided on something but I wanted to find out what people thought.

We decided that we want to get married this summer (August particularly), and wanted to know if we apply for an extension on my visitor record (it expires on April 30th), stating we're planning a wedding in August and are going to be sending off for PR afterward, as well as send receipts of already paying the $75 sponsor and $475 application fee to PROVE we're in the process of preparing for that... what are the odds of approval of this extension? Any other evidence to assure them? Perhaps letters from his parents stating knowledge of our marriage and that I need to be here to help plan it?

We just decided we don't want to go the common law route (we qualify for that May 14th), we want to be married, but we don't' want to do a simple civil ceremony and want to have a small intimate wedding for about 20 of his family and our friends, and will celebrate with my family later on after all the immigration madness is over.

Thoughts? I just can't wait to marry him!!! :D
 

ddobro2

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It's not certain it will be transferred to Seattle or any other satellite office. If it does get transferred, they'll notify you of it.
bloodyguitars said:
I have selected Seattle in application. Does anyone knows how long it takes before my application is transferred to Seattle?
Acknowledgment of Receipt.
bloodyguitars said:
Can anyone explain me the terms "AOR" please?
 

ddobro2

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Haha......no. That would defeat the point of attaining PR status. Anyhoo, congrats jbruce!!
jbruce said:
I thought I was going to need a travel document for each trip in and out.
 

ddobro2

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Can you give me your application received at CPC-M and sponsorship approval dates?
York Region said:
Hi nhl1011 and Veronica, I am in the same situation as you are guys, I sent my application to Mississauga May 19, 2011, and Buffalo received my Application July 11, 2011, I got my AOR August 8, 2011----- my e-cas still states: we received your application for pr july 11, 2011, medical have been received - that is all- no "in Progress".
What I noticed is that we are all in Canada now, I am in Toronto and I have post graduate work permit. Do you have guys lawyer or you sent on your own?
 

York Region

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Buffalo
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App. Filed.......
19-05-2011
AOR Received.
08-08-2011
Med's Request
extended
Med's Done....
19-04-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
08-05-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-05-2012
LANDED..........
10-05-2012
ddobro2 said:
Can you give me your application received at CPC-M and sponsorship approval dates?
cpc-m received my applicaton may 24,2011 and sponsorship approved june 27, 2011
 

York Region

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Oct 20, 2011
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Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-05-2011
AOR Received.
08-08-2011
Med's Request
extended
Med's Done....
19-04-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
08-05-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-05-2012
LANDED..........
10-05-2012
Quince777 said:
Hopefully you can hear something soon from Buffalo.
thank you very much