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Thread for outland Buffalo applicants!

puzzle69

Star Member
Apr 16, 2011
70
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-02-2011
AOR Received.
07-04-2011
File Transfer...
24-03-2011
Med's Request
01-06-2011
Med's Done....
11-05-2011
Passport Req..
11-07-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-07-2011
LANDED..........
25-10-2011
Congratulations Kerianne! Here's to a long and healthy life in Canada!
 

puzzle69

Star Member
Apr 16, 2011
70
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-02-2011
AOR Received.
07-04-2011
File Transfer...
24-03-2011
Med's Request
01-06-2011
Med's Done....
11-05-2011
Passport Req..
11-07-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-07-2011
LANDED..........
25-10-2011
My brother-in-law spoke with a good friend of his in Toronto who works for the CIC. He said that if our son was a blood relative there would be no question as to him getting an excessive demand exemption. However, he was not sure if that would apply to an adpoted child. He is looking into it and will let us know on Monday. I'm beside myself here. I don't understand why there should be any distinction between a child born naturally to parents and a legally adopted chilld. He is OUR son. We are listed on his birth certificate as his parents, and his Mom is a Canadian citizen. Apparently, there could be an issue, though. If we went the citizenship by special grant route he could get his Canadian citizenship (in 1-3 years), but if he ended up having children outside of Canada they would not be granted citizenship (according to the new immigration law passed in 2009). So, the CIC already treats adopted children cases differently. I'm just venting here because I can't seem to get a straight answer from anyone (accept Rinnerz and everyone else helping me out on this board :) ), but I still don't know if our situation will be handled differently because he's adopted.
Does anyone know if the DMP makes the decision on EDE or is that something that comes down from the CIC? I plan on taking him in for his medical exam in 3 weeks and I'll have to tell the DMP about his ASD. I know there are a few different forms the DMP submits and one of them is for EDE for outland applicants. I wondering if he has the authority to decide if its an EDE case or not?
 

rjessome

VIP Member
Feb 24, 2009
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puzzle69 said:
My brother-in-law spoke with a good friend of his in Toronto who works for the CIC. He said that if our son was a blood relative there would be no question as to him getting an excessive demand exemption. However, he was not sure if that would apply to an adpoted child. He is looking into it and will let us know on Monday. I'm beside myself here. I don't understand why there should be any distinction between a child born naturally to parents and a legally adopted chilld. He is OUR son. We are listed on his birth certificate as his parents, and his Mom is a Canadian citizen. Apparently, there could be an issue, though. If we went the citizenship by special grant route he could get his Canadian citizenship (in 1-3 years), but if he ended up having children outside of Canada they would not be granted citizenship (according to the new immigration law passed in 2009). So, the CIC already treats adopted children cases differently. I'm just venting here because I can't seem to get a straight answer from anyone (accept Rinnerz and everyone else helping me out on this board :) ), but I still don't know if our situation will be handled differently because he's adopted.
Does anyone know if the DMP makes the decision on EDE or is that something that comes down from the CIC? I plan on taking him in for his medical exam in 3 weeks and I'll have to tell the DMP about his ASD. I know there are a few different forms the DMP submits and one of them is for EDE for outland applicants. I wondering if he has the authority to decide if its an EDE case or not?
You are fine as far as the exemption goes. Read the definition of "dependent child" in IRPR at R2(a)(ii). http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/page-2.html
 

Rinnerz

Hero Member
Apr 8, 2010
431
14
124
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-10-2010
AOR Received.
14-12-2010
File Transfer...
09-11-2010
Med's Done....
29-07-2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
08-07-2011
VISA ISSUED...
07-07-2011
LANDED..........
02-08-2011
Makes sense. If there was such a distinction made between biological and adopted children, it would definitely be posted elsewhere (site, guides, forms, etc). Also, re-read what I posted from the DMP's handbook provided by CIC. The DMP does not determine who is EDE; it is all laid out for them by CIC. If you are applying under the Family Class and show up for a medical with your Appendix C, the DMP is to consider you EDE.
 

puzzle69

Star Member
Apr 16, 2011
70
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-02-2011
AOR Received.
07-04-2011
File Transfer...
24-03-2011
Med's Request
01-06-2011
Med's Done....
11-05-2011
Passport Req..
11-07-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-07-2011
LANDED..........
25-10-2011
Thanks Rjessome and Rinnerz (once again). My nerves a beginning to settle down concerning this matter. It seems pretty cut and dry. Our son clearly qualifies as a dependent child. Even adopted, he looks to be eligible for the excessive demand exemption (as well as myself apparently, although I just have high blood pressue...is it any wonder with all this immigration craziness??? ).
I was initially concerned about bringing my son to the medical exam. He is mildly autstic, but is a very happy child, high functioning, and progressing by leaps and bounds everyday. The one thing that sets him off is going to the doctor! Not a surprise as most people don't like to go to the doctor. However, if any of you have had experience with children with even mild autism may know, something as mundane as this could trigger a major meltdown (it happened last week at his regular check up). I was worried that an unanticipated meltdown at his medical could raise a red flag. But, it seems that something like that should have no bearing if he is EDE. Other than the (very occasional) meltdown he is very healthy. I'll let everyone know what my bro-in-law's CIC buddy says if it's any different. It shouldn't be. The law is the law, right?
 

mommyk

Full Member
Jan 1, 2011
27
1
Saskatchewan
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-02-2011
AOR Received.
10-06-2011 E-CAS states in process and medicals received
File Transfer...
24-03-2011
Med's Done....
14-01-2011
Passport Req..
22-06-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-07-2011, received 20/07/2011
LANDED..........
21/07/2011
Hi Puzzle,

I haven't been on the forum lately and just read about your troubles with your son's citizenship, so sorry to hear that. I hope everything goes smoothly at the upcoming physican appt.
 

puzzle69

Star Member
Apr 16, 2011
70
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-02-2011
AOR Received.
07-04-2011
File Transfer...
24-03-2011
Med's Request
01-06-2011
Med's Done....
11-05-2011
Passport Req..
11-07-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-07-2011
LANDED..........
25-10-2011
Thanks mommyk. I'm sure everything will workout fine. It's just frustrating because I feel like we're back to where we started. If Mississauga hadn't erroneously told us our son was citizenship eligible and refunded his PR fee we would be chugging along with the processing normally. Now we have to repay his PR fee and hope all of his paperwork is still with my application. It doesn't seem fair that he can't get his citizenship like any blood related dependent child can. Nothing we can do about that, though. As far as his medical, he's a trooper. My wife and I will be there to help him get through it.
 

kerianne

Hero Member
Jul 24, 2010
223
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CANADA :)
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 27, 2010
Doc's Request.
November 18, 2010
AOR Received.
August 6, 2010
File Transfer...
June 1, 2010
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
March 21, 2011
VISA ISSUED...
March 30, 2011
LANDED..........
April 29, 2011
Thanks everybody!
 

janamay1967

Star Member
Mar 17, 2011
74
1
Houston Texas
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-03-2011
Nomination.....
18-04-2011
AOR Received.
28-04-2011
Med's Done....
14-03-2011
Passport Req..
16-11-2011
AOR received in Buffalo on April 28th!

I was so happy to see something change on ECAS that I burst into tears! :'(

Sometimes I get terrified to even read these posts!

We all deserve to be happy and with the ones we love! Universe are you listening!! I'm talking to you!!
 

Tiggilicious

Hero Member
Jun 1, 2010
206
4
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-02-2011
AOR Received.
28-06-2011
File Transfer...
01-03-2011
Med's Request
31-07-2011
Med's Done....
14-01-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
08-08-2011
VISA ISSUED...
30-08-2011
janamay1967 said:
AOR received in Buffalo on April 28th!

I was so happy to see something change on ECAS that I burst into tears! :'(

Sometimes I get terrified to even read these posts!

We all deserve to be happy and with the ones we love! Universe are you listening!! I'm talking to you!!
Awesomenews! Was it the paper/email AOR or just the status on ecas saying application received in Buffalo?
 

janamay1967

Star Member
Mar 17, 2011
74
1
Houston Texas
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-03-2011
Nomination.....
18-04-2011
AOR Received.
28-04-2011
Med's Done....
14-03-2011
Passport Req..
16-11-2011
Tiggilicious said:
Awesomenews! Was it the paper/email AOR or just the status on ecas saying application received in Buffalo?
It was just a status update so far. I am hoping for some REAL paper or an email soon! Thanks for the support!
 

quakingaspen

Hero Member
Sep 24, 2010
536
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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01.12.10
AOR Received.
07.03.11
File Transfer...
11.01.11
Med's Done....
16.11.10
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12.04.11
LANDED..........
02.05.11
My husband and I got back a few hours ago from landing at the Lansdowne Bridge. It all went pretty well!

I went alone in a rented car, and approached the US border. When I got to the border officer on the US side, he was sort of a jerk. As I handed him my passport I told him that I was just interested in turning around so I could go back to the Canadian POE to land as a Permanent Resident. Apparently, this was a big hassle for him. He rolled his eyes and sighed and muttered a little bit, before asking me a barrage of questions. Where did the car come from? Do I have the rental agreement? How much did I pay for the car? Who paid for the car? Where was my car? Where was I from? Where was my husband? Why wasn't he with me? Where does he work (twice)? When was the last time I was in the states? How did I get to Canada? How long had I been in Canada? Where did I fly in to? Could I show him my driver's license?

I was getting nervous, because I didn't want to get into some of the intricacies of my status (like the extended Visitor's record from Canada, which I had with me, but he may not have known the meaning of). He kept tossing questions at me (I assume in an effort to throw me off), until a female border officer came out. He told her that I was an American citizen looking to turn around and go back to land at the Canadian border. She glanced at my passport, and said it was fine. He thrust my paperwork back through the window at me (a tangled mass of car rental agreement, passport, and driver's license) and then pointed to the turnaround spot. He told me in a relatively friendly manner that I could go just past those barriers to where the one way signs were and turn around there.

I was a bit shaken by that experience, so I pulled over at the Free Trade parking lot to gather and organize my documents and get my shaking under control. I'm an anxious person to start with, that that experience did nothing to soothe my nerves. :p But I suppose that isn't what they're there for.

The folks on the Canadian side were very nice and helpful. The lines were VERY short (at about Noon on a Monday). The gentleman in the booth gave me a yellow slip, told me to park to the left, and then enter through door number 1. I was the only one there for immigration. There were three guys sitting next to me, and one leaned over and told me that the last girl in had her car towed. I told him that was bad news, and the rental agency probably wouldn't be too impressed! I made it through the immigration part in about 15 minutes. He called me up and took my passport and COPR. After about 10 minutes he called me up to go over the COPR and have me sign it. Then he went back for 5 minutes to enter the information into the computer, and then came back to give me my passport and explain the PR card, OHIP application timing, and getting a SIN number. The Goods/Goods to Follow list part took about 10 more minutes.

No Welcome to Canada, or pins, or packets or anything fun like that... but I was simply grateful to be landed, and happy that they were so kind.

We stopped at the first Service Canada building we came across, and I applied for my SIN number. They Verified my paperwork, and I received my shiny new number in about 15 minutes. She said the card should show up in the mail in about 2 weeks.

So... I guess that's that! My first job interview as a Permanent Resident of Canada is on Wednesday.  Time to celebrate and regroup tonight, and prepare for that tomorrow!

Sorry for the long post! I just wanted to get it all out. I want to thank you all for your help, your support, and your knowledge. You have made this horrible process much more bearable. Thank you for listening to my ramblings, and being patient with my OCD questioning.

I'll still be hanging around here. These forums are addicting. ;) And I have many friends here to see safely to the other side.

P.S. For anyone wondering, here's the follow up on my landing obsessing. It would have been a very poor choice for me to bring my car (American) to land. When I was working on my goods to follow list, the agent asked me about the car I had driven there. I told her it was a rental, and there was no problem. I think that would have gone differently if it had been my car. She did not ask to see the rental agreement or anything (but the US side did).
 

Tiggilicious

Hero Member
Jun 1, 2010
206
4
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-02-2011
AOR Received.
28-06-2011
File Transfer...
01-03-2011
Med's Request
31-07-2011
Med's Done....
14-01-2011
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
08-08-2011
VISA ISSUED...
30-08-2011
congrats! Seemed like someone pissed on his cornflakes this morning on the us side. lol.
 

spiritrac

Hero Member
Feb 17, 2011
273
5
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo/Port of Spain
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-12-2010
AOR Received.
06-04-2011
File Transfer...
26-01-2011
Med's Done....
12-09-2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
29-7-2011 Buffalo/ waiting on POS
VISA ISSUED...
Buffalo 8/31 POS TBD
LANDED..........
Sept 4,2011 POS Waiting
congrats on your landing Quakingaspen enjoy the celebration
 

puzzle69

Star Member
Apr 16, 2011
70
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-02-2011
AOR Received.
07-04-2011
File Transfer...
24-03-2011
Med's Request
01-06-2011
Med's Done....
11-05-2011
Passport Req..
11-07-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-07-2011
LANDED..........
25-10-2011
Congratulations Quakingaspen on landing!!! :)