Thoz who got 6-12 months wait letter

[2calgary]

Bro, I hope that u will not take any offense, and will take this difference of opinion in the spirit of what it is and NOT an offense. As I know your intentions r good. And u mean well.

All the senior members I know personally (cock n bull, gillani, arsh, zeeshan, 2 calgary and other I don't wanna name DO NOT agree with your court case suggestion).....I ll tell u why....there s a slight difference here :

we all know that u have not applied for immigration, and u just come here to voice your opinions about the faulty system (we all agree its faulty n unfair)...but giving suggestions to people to go to court n spend money n time at this stage ESP when results r coming in form of UDR/MR/Visas at this stage , that hurts your creditibility as an expert..(Which I don't like, coz I think u re a smart man with loots of logic in u)..

Kher...u have a right to say wat u think n act HOWEVER way u think is right for YOUR case....so, when u apply in upcoming MI yourself, and IF they delay your case, u should go to court ....but for now, your stakes r NOT the same as waiters, U have not waited for almost 3 years....and u re not on the verge of getting your case finalized in a year...so you don't care about the results of a court action, since its not YOUR case, so u can give ANY suggestion.

Having said that, I know u mean well, and want the best outcome for waiters...I wish u all the best when u apply for yourself.

For waiters: my suggestion...just WAIT plz...no need to go to court....

Rest people can decide on their own.

agreeeed

 

[MASunny]

I think there's need for all these 6-12 months wait letter holders to review the FCC (I wish I can find this judgment from FCC web site; anyone help me in finding that verdict?) where an Indian lady (MI1 applicant) who was waiting for long (note here; only 1.5 years, court verdict came in June 2012) filed a petition against CIC for unnecessary processing delay and finally she won as JK settled that matter out of Court. Further court had asked JK to finalized all MI1 (successful candidates) within 6-12 months. That's how - probably- you all got this wait letter otherwise CIC doesn't care to send anyone a letter of 6-12 mo wait.

What is being done now by CIC issuing 18 months wait letter is clear violation of FCC verdict and your rights. So stand up & at least voice your concern for 18 months further wait after reading that decision.

Who agrees or doesn't, its not mine or seniors or anyone concern. All cases are individual and hence all applicants could have right to raise point about this injustice.

In simple, how long you have to wait - first 2 years due to MI1 que, then 6-12 months for next processing steps, now 18 months for further processing? May be within these 18 months, further visa quota issue would surface or such candidates might not face the fate of pre-2008 applicants, another bill C-38, no one knows the future!

So dears, it is much better to have sensible-waiting than blind-waiting. Its good to have faith in Allah but remember Allah has given mind to human being to use it rather than blindly waiting for... (Allah will not change the fate of those who do not want to change it) or if it allows to take any further action!

Hope this doesn't hurt any one!!!

Bro, I hope that u will not take any offense, and will take this difference of opinion in the spirit of what it is and NOT an offense. As I know your intentions r good. And u mean well.

All the senior members I know personally (cock n bull, gillani, arsh, zeeshan, 2 calgary and other I don't wanna name DO NOT agree with your court case suggestion).....I ll tell u why....there s a slight difference here :

we all know that u have not applied for immigration, and u just come here to voice your opinions about the faulty system (we all agree its faulty n unfair)...but giving suggestions to people to go to court n spend money n time at this stage ESP when results r coming in form of UDR/MR/Visas at this stage , that hurts your creditibility as an expert..(Which I don't like, coz I think u re a smart man with lots of logic and a good heart in u)..

Kher...u have a right to say wat u think n act HOWEVER way u think is right for YOUR case....so, when u apply in upcoming MI yourself, and IF they delay your case, u should go to court ....but for now, your stakes r NOT the same as waiters, U have not waited for almost 3 years....and u re not on the verge of getting your case finalized in a year...so you don't care about the results of a court action, since its not YOUR case, so u can give ANY suggestion.

Having said that, I know u mean well, and want the best outcome for waiters...I wish u all the best when u apply for yourself.

For waiters: my suggestion...just WAIT plz...no need to go to court....

Rest people can decide on their own.

 

[MASunny]

Here is the reference of FCC verdit reg MI1 applicant, for review:

http://visalawcanada.blogspot.ae/2012/06/skilled-worker-delay-decision-to-be.html

37 The Minister's argument fails on the facts in respect of the MI1 applications as well. Pursuant to his policy choices as embodied in the MI1, applications submitted under those instructions were to be processed within 6-12 months. Thus, the Minister exercised his power under section 87.3 of the Act to set a policy regarding FSW applications, and the MI1 applications have been delayed substantially past the processing time as set pursuant to that policy.

51 The same obviously cannot be said for all the MI1 applicants. As with the pre-C50 applicants, each case will turn on its own individual facts. In light of the fact that this is a representative case, and that the parties evidently expect some guidance on how to address the remaining MI1 applications, the Court makes the following findings: the Minister established a policy pursuant to the MI1 whereby those applications would be prioritized and would be processed within 6-12 months, and therefore the delay (ranging from 24-52 months) has prima facie been longer than that which might reasonably be expected to arise.

2 The applications at issue were selected through a case management process as representative cases for two groups of applicants whose FSW applications have not been processed to completion. Applicant Dong Liang represents 671 applicants who submitted their applications before February 27, 2008, when amendments to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, SC 2001, c 27 (IRPA) were enacted through the Budget Implementation Act, 2008, SC 2008, c 28 or "Bill-C50" (pre-C50 applications). Applicant Phool Maya Gurung represents 154 applicants who submitted their applications between February 27, 2008 and June 26, 2010, a period of time during which eligibility for a FSW visa was governed by a set of Ministerial Instructions (MI1 applications). They both allege that the Minister has unreasonably delayed processing their applications by choosing to accord higher priority to applications submitted more recently and according to different criteria.


3 For the reasons that follow, the application in respect of Mr. Liang is granted, and dismissed in respect of Ms. Gurung. No order is made in respect of the other applications held in abeyance pending the outcome of this litigation. The Court has been informed that the parties have agreed on a protocol to address those cases based on the outcome of these two applications.

 

[jadedGeek]

All looks OK as per the theory but ye Sibbi's case is strange - dont know hwy

Jee ap ka BG theek nahi hai kiddin bro...

As I keep saying...BG check is "topi drama" and nothing else....this delay is related to visa quota and giving visa on approaching average processing time...

Cock n bull travelled 18 countries in total...10 before applying , 8 during application.....his BG check took 20 days ...coz he s MI-2...and they had to give him visa in 18 months...(C n b also agrees that this BG check is a drama)

Another person I know, who travels more frequestly than that....his BG check took 14 days...again MI-2....

Another MI-1 applicant friend (who flew this month to canada; arsh/zeeshan/2 calgary know who I'm talkin about) he never even travelled outside the CITY (leave alone country)....yet his BG check took 9 months after medical coz he was MI-1....and processing time had to brought close to 3 years ...took him 3 years and 5 months from full docs to get visa

another MI-1 friend took 8 months for BG checks after medical...

So relax ...when your time will come, it will go like a rocket....BG check simply means "shut up, dont disturb us, we ll tell u when we re ready to give u visa"

As for updated docs, and then medical...they r simply managing their work load....coz if they issued MR to everyone TOGETHER, they would have loads of work load n documents to analyze and would have to issue visa to everyone in the next 8-9 months.... So they ll take the remaining waiters, STEP BY STEP....just my opinion.....besides, wat ever we THINK or watever is the ACTUAL reality , we have NO OPTION BUT TO WAIT... so wait kurtay hein, achay bachon ke tarah Inshallah, eventual outcome will be good.

 

[Waiting_man_007]

Just want to confirm one thing.
If some one has 72 points according to Caips notes in which 5 points are due to spouse education.
In such a case, removal of spouse name will not effect the applicant as applicant will have 67 points which are enough to qualify.
Please correct me if I am not correct in the above statment.

 

[SMSH]

Just want to confirm one thing.
If some one has 72 points according to Caips notes in which 5 points are due to spouse education.
In such a case, removal of spouse name will not effect the applicant as applicant will have 67 points which are enough to qualify.
Please correct me if I am not correct in the above statment.

Normally you are right but you have to provide a justification for removing your spouse from your application...
and you can only do it if their is an official document for that, I hope this clarify your question.

 

[alie]

@ Nizami
Since you have already received UDR with 18 months time...
So you can send CSE only to get back your originals...docs...
Don't ask any status of your case, otherwise they may get angry

Salam SMSH,

In the 18 months wait letter, they mentioned "Please quote your file number on all correspondence, including the envelope" - what does that mean? Please help.

 

[jimmy page]

@ for Nizami & @ All forum members

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2008/2008-11-28.asp

Backgrounder - Action Plan for Faster Immigration: Ministerial Instructions
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What the Action Plan for Faster Immigration's instructions mean for applicants

Federal skilled worker applications received on or after February 27, 2008, will now be assessed for eligibility according to the criteria set out in the instructions. If an application does not meet the criteria, it will not be processed, and the application fee will be fully refunded. New federal skilled worker applicants, including those with arranged employment, should receive a decision within six to 12 months.

The Action Plan for Faster Immigration's instructions comply with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In addition, they do not apply to refugee and family applicants.


Open the link to read the complete story

Zeeshan...I think u should be THE ONE to go to court ??? So r u going to court ??? plz go to court, for our sake...plz yar

I can bet a million dollars u will not dramay baaz......logon ko 'shurlian' laganay walay lurkay ... lol.

 

[MASunny]

Jimmy Bro, its not a matter of running court immediately but its a sensible way to utilize this verdict and try to speak with Immigration Program Manager first and then onward strategy formulation before reaching Court.

Zeeshan...I think u should be THE ONE to go to court ??? So r u going to court ??? plz go to court, for our sake...plz yar

I can bet a million dollars u will not dramay baaz......logon ko 'shurlian' laganay walay lurkay ... lol.

 

[jimmy page]

Jimmy Bro, its not a matter of running court immediately but its a sensible way to utilize this verdict and try to speak with Immigration Program Manager first and then onward strategy formulation before reaching Court.

First of all, both zeeshan and I are kidding about this court drama....as both of us think its TOTAL stupidity at this stage for waiters to go to court or to do some dumb move at this stage....IF they reject us, like pre-feb, we can think of it....but at this point , LET ME BE CLEAR, NO MI-1 should go to court.......I told zeeshan to not joke about such sensitive topics, when he doesn't mean them...some people might take it seriously !!!

Kher....let's end this topic bro....everyone is smart mashallah....and have gotten till this stage without the help of Jimmy Page OR MA Sunny....so people can decide for themsleves....

But I know for a fact, waiters will NOT go to court...they might crib n curse the LVO, but they will not go to court....rest we ll see.

I respect u a lot bro...no harsh feelings....none on my side either, since I know u want ONLY the best for us.. Thanks !

P.s: guys, let LVO work at their own pace and MARK THESE WORDS:
"every single waiter will inshallah go to canada"....

so relax and sakoon karo dosto....
Zyada frustration ho, to jason kenney ko subah shaam nihar moon gaalian do

Kisay awara dain (churail) da bacha OR
kissay anne (blind) naagin da puttar

 

[nizami]

Abey bhai koee bhi court nahin jayega, we are such sissy who barks only won't do shit.

Rahi baat link bhai it says decision will be made within 6-12 months, who in the world will decide that decision made means issuing visa. It can be accepting your application for further processing, means your application is accepted or not. Bhai when you play with words there is different interpretation, that's what the lawyers do in court.

 

[zeshananis]

First of all, both zeeshan and I are kidding about this court drama....as both of us think its stupidity at this stage for us to go to court....IF they reject us, like pre-feb, we can think of it....but at this point , LET ME BE CLEAR, NO MI-1 should go to court.......I told zeeshan to not joke about such sensitive topics, when he doesn't mean them...some people might take it seriously !!!

Kher....let's end this topic bro....everyone is smart mashallah....and have gotten till this stage without the help of jimmy page OR MA Sunny....so people can decide for themsleves....

But I know for a fact, waiters will NOT go to court...they might crib n curse the LVO, but they will not go to court....rest we ll see.

I respect u a lot bro...no harsh feelings....none on my side either, since I know u want ONLY the best for us.. Thanks !

I second that

 

[zeshananis]

Abey bhai koee bhi court nahin jayega, we are such sissy who barks only won't do *censored word*.

Rahi baat link bhai it says decision will be made within 6-12 months, who in the world will decide that decision made means issuing visa. It can be accepting your application for further processing, means your application is accepted or not. Bhai when you play with words there is different interpretation, that's what the lawyers do in court.

Nizami ... Your online case status is "In - Process" it will turn to "Descsion Made" once you have provisioned for visa or the case is rejected

So everybody knows that, what, "Decision Made", means is

 

[nizami]

Nizami ... Your online case status is "In - Process" it will turn to "Descsion Made" once you have provisioned for visa or the case is rejected

So everybody knows that, what, "Decision Made", means is

Bhai aap jeet gaye, main haar gaya, khush. Kehna woh chahiye jo kiya jaye, faltoo main issue raise karney ka koee faida nahin hota.

 

[zeshananis]

Bhai aap jeet gaye, main haar gaya, khush. Kehna woh chahiye jo kiya jaye, faltoo main issue raise karney ka koee faida nahin hota.

Buddy ... We're not participating in competition. You may taking it wrong. I'm defending on what CIC commited in June 2008 and what Decision Made mean is....