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Anya654

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EricCartman said:
I received my ITA under FSW and it had the breakdown of my points. I just double.checked and it is FSW.
How do I raise a CSE?
Thank you all for your responses, you guys are helping me think straight.
Before you raise a CSE follow what Chevy has stated above? Were you given points for CEC? If so then it was wrongly awarded since you didn't obtain your Canadian experience within the last 3 Years.
 

dobes

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Nov 23, 2014
1,177
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Category........
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
EricCartman said:
I received my ITA under FSW and it had the breakdown of my points. I just double.checked and it is FSW.
How do I raise a CSE?
Thank you all for your responses, you guys are helping me think straight.
Guys, stop. He applied under FSW, and in that case he gets points for work experience in Canada within the past 10 years. Can you please give us more of the letter to work with? How do you know it was related to your Canadian experience? Was all that experience DEFINITELY in NOC A, B, or O jobs?

Please give us more of the letter, or the whole thing if possible. I am so sorry this has happened to you, but it's not the end of the world. If we can figure it out, perhaps you can file a CSE. In any case, you can put up a new EE profile once we know what happened. Hang in there!
 

rajkamalmohanram

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EricCartman said:
I am refusing
your application because I have found that at the time you received your invitation to apply for permanent
residence, or at the time you filed your application for permanent residence, you no longer possessed the
qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph
10.3(1)(h).
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest
ranking person who was invited to apply in your draw, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking
System.

This was in reference to my Canadian work experience that was back in 2008!! I also provided 6 other years or work.experience in dubai.

I'm so confused and I don't know what to do!!! I applied as a skilled worker and not Canadian experience class.

Can someone please pleaseeeeee help else.
I'm so devastated.
Brother. I think this is a mistake by a very unqualified VO. It is imperative that you consider raising a CSE and ask them very politely why they refused your application. Tell them in a humble manner that they have assessed your profile wrongly and get it reopened. This is not a situation where we can sit and say nothing is in our hands. Please raise a CSE and I'll hope they'll reopen and reconsider your application. I wish you all the very best. Keep us posted.
 

anujgupta84

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EricCartman said:
I received my ITA under FSW and it had the breakdown of my points. I just double.checked and it is FSW.
How do I raise a CSE?
Thank you all for your responses, you guys are helping me think straight.
I agree with Anya654 and Chevy.

Here's the CSE link: https://secure.cic.gc.ca/enquiries-renseignements/canada-case-cas-eng.aspx
 

EricCartman

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May 26, 2015
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maverick85 said:
EricCartman.. Sorry to hear about your refusal..

The eligibility criteria mentions about gaining Canadian experience in the last 3 years..


"Find out if you're eligible to apply for Express Entry
* All fields are mandatory

In the last three years, how many years of skilled work experience do you have in Canada? It must have been full-time (or an equal amount in part time). "

- So even if you were not invited under CEC, you still got points for Canadian Work Experience as per the assumption that you gained the minimum 1 year Canadian experience in the last 3 years..
I specifically said that it wasn't in the last 3 Years and I was given 53 points for Canadian Work Experience and I was sure it was an application under FSW and even my ITA is under FSW.
 

purohit

Star Member
Feb 5, 2015
184
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05-05-2015
Doc's Request.
None
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
05-05-2015
IELTS Request
Initally submitted
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Upfront
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
13-10-2015
VISA ISSUED...
29-10-2015
This is terrible. What was the primary NOC code u declared - was it dubai job or Canada?
Also did you get DM or just in process in ecas?
 

dobes

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Nov 23, 2014
1,177
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Anya654 said:
Before you raise a CSE follow what Chevy has stated above? Were you given points for CEC? If so then it was wrongly awarded since you didn't obtain your Canadian experience within the last 3 Years.
It doesn't matter if he qualified for CEC since he got his invitation under FSW and had to meet FSW requirements. HOWEVER, if he didn't notice that CRS points were being awarded as if his Canadian experience had been in the past 3 years, he may have been awarded too many CRS points, which were then subtracted later.

In that case, he can make a new EE profile with the correct information, and wait for another ITA. His Canadian experience still should be claimed as it gives him FSW points that he needs.
 

Phil89

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Its really hard to figure anything out if he/she doesn't post the whole letter. Just annoys me every time people do this.
 

dobes

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1,177
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Category........
NOC Code......
1123
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Pre-Assessed..
EricCartman said:
I specifically said that it wasn't in the last 3 Years and I was given 53 points for Canadian Work Experience and I was sure it was an application under FSW and even my ITA is under FSW.
Explain where you got 53 points for Canadian work experience? With 1 year 8 months, shouldn't it have been 35 if married and 40 if single?
 

Anya654

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purohit said:
This is terrible. What was the primary NOC code u declared - was it dubai job or Canada?
Also did you get DM or just in process in ecas?
Yes, which wor experience did your primary NOC fall under?
 

EricCartman

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May 26, 2015
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dobes said:
Guys, stop. He applied under FSW, and in that case he gets points for work experience in Canada within the past 10 years. Can you please give us more of the letter to work with? How do you know it was related to your Canadian experience? Was all that experience DEFINITELY in NOC A, B, or O jobs?

Please give us more of the letter, or the whole thing if possible. I am so sorry this has ha
ppened to you, but it's not the end of the world. If we can figure it out, perhaps you can file a CSE. In any case, you can put up a new EE profile once we know what happened. Hang in there!
Dobes I can't thank you enough!
The noc are in IT and project management. My last noc that I was claiming is IT project manager which they did not mention about in the refusal.letter.


Here is the entire letter

I have now completed the assessment of your application for a permanent resident visa as a skilled
worker. I have determined that you do not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) states that a foreign national
must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or for any other document required by the
regulations. The visa or document may be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that
the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of this Act. Subsection 2(2) specifies
that unless otherwise indicated, references in the Act to “this Act” include regulations made under it.
In addition, according to section 11.2 of the IRPA:
An officer may not issue a visa or other document in respect of an application for permanent
residence to a foreign national who was issued an invitation under Division 0.1 to make such an
application if – at the time the invitation was issued or at the time the officer received their
application – the foreign national did not meet the criteria set out in an instruction given under
paragraph 10.3(1)(e) or does not have the qualifications on the basis of which they were ranked
under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h) and were consequently issued the
invitation.
Section 11.2 of the IRPA requires that information provided in your Express Entry Profile concerning
your eligibility to be invited to apply (10.3(1)(e)), as well as the qualifications on the basis of which you
were ranked (10.3(1)(h)) be valid both at the time the invitation was issued and at the time the application
for permanent residence is received.
In your Express Entry profile, you indicated you had two years of work experience in Canada. On the date
of your application, you submitted evidence of 1 year 8 months work experience – 2 months as a
Telephone Surveyor for ******, as well as 1 year 7 months as
a Junior Technical Support Representative for *****. In accordance with section11.2, I am refusing
your application because I have found that at the time you received your invitation to apply for permanent
residence, or at the time you filed your application for permanent residence, you no longer possessed the
qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph
10.3(1)(h).
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest
ranking person who was invited to apply in your draw, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking
System.
Following an examination of your application, I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of the
Act and Regulations for the reasons explained above. I am therefore refusing your application.
You will receive a refund of the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you have paid.
You must remove your Job Seeker profile from the Job Bank website, as you are no longer an Express
Entry candidate. You must also remove any references that you are a candidate for Express Entry from
any private job board websites, if you used any.
If you still want to come to Canada as a skilled immigrant, you may take steps to improve your
competitiveness and register for Express Entry at a later date. For example, you may try to improve your
language score or gain a higher level of education. However, you must still meet minimum requirements
to enter the Express Entry pool and there is no guarantee that you will that you will be issued another
invitation to apply for permanent residence under one of the immigration programs subject to Express
Entry.
 

dobes

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EricCartman said:
I specifically said that it wasn't in the last 3 Years and I was given 53 points for Canadian Work Experience and I was sure it was an application under FSW and even my ITA is under FSW.
So can I assume that is 40 points for a single applicant who worked for 1 year in Canada? And then 13 more points for adaptability?

Did you provide a reference letter for this job? Did it indicate how long you held the job and that it was full-time and 40 hours (or more than 30) per week? Was it in NOC A, B, or )? Did you provide supporting documents like NoA, T4, etc? Does the letter say whether the VO does not believe you held this job, does not believe the job qualified you for claiming Canadian experience points, or something else?
 

Phil89

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EricCartman said:
Dobes I can't thank you enough!
The noc are in IT and project management. My last noc that I was claiming is IT project manager which they did not mention about in the refusal.letter.


Here is the entire letter

I have now completed the assessment of your application for a permanent resident visa as a skilled
worker. I have determined that you do not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) states that a foreign national
must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or for any other document required by the
regulations. The visa or document may be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that
the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of this Act. Subsection 2(2) specifies
that unless otherwise indicated, references in the Act to “this Act” include regulations made under it.
In addition, according to section 11.2 of the IRPA:
An officer may not issue a visa or other document in respect of an application for permanent
residence to a foreign national who was issued an invitation under Division 0.1 to make such an
application if – at the time the invitation was issued or at the time the officer received their
application – the foreign national did not meet the criteria set out in an instruction given under
paragraph 10.3(1)(e) or does not have the qualifications on the basis of which they were ranked
under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h) and were consequently issued the
invitation.
Section 11.2 of the IRPA requires that information provided in your Express Entry Profile concerning
your eligibility to be invited to apply (10.3(1)(e)), as well as the qualifications on the basis of which you
were ranked (10.3(1)(h)) be valid both at the time the invitation was issued and at the time the application
for permanent residence is received.
In your Express Entry profile, you indicated you had two years of work experience in Canada. On the date
of your application, you submitted evidence of 1 year 8 months work experience – 2 months as a
Telephone Surveyor for ******, as well as 1 year 7 months as
a Junior Technical Support Representative for *****. In accordance with section11.2, I am refusing
your application because I have found that at the time you received your invitation to apply for permanent
residence, or at the time you filed your application for permanent residence, you no longer possessed the
qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph
10.3(1)(h).
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest
ranking person who was invited to apply in your draw, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking
System.
Following an examination of your application, I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of the
Act and Regulations for the reasons explained above. I am therefore refusing your application.
You will receive a refund of the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you have paid.
You must remove your Job Seeker profile from the Job Bank website, as you are no longer an Express
Entry candidate. You must also remove any references that you are a candidate for Express Entry from
any private job board websites, if you used any.
If you still want to come to Canada as a skilled immigrant, you may take steps to improve your
competitiveness and register for Express Entry at a later date. For example, you may try to improve your
language score or gain a higher level of education. However, you must still meet minimum requirements
to enter the Express Entry pool and there is no guarantee that you will that you will be issued another
invitation to apply for permanent residence under one of the immigration programs subject to Express
Entry.
Simple as that. You claimed points for 2 years when you actually have 1 year 8 months.
 

EricCartman

Star Member
May 26, 2015
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rajkamalmohanram said:
Brother. I think this is a mistake by a very unqualified VO. It is imperative that you consider raising a CSE and ask them very politely why they refused your application. Tell them in a humble manner that they have assessed your profile wrongly and get it reopened. This is not a situation where we can sit and say nothing is in our hands. Please raise a CSE and I'll hope they'll reopen and reconsider your application. I wish you all the very best. Keep us posted.
Thank you brother for your support. I am trying to gather as much information and feedback before I do anything.
Thanks again
 

purohit

Star Member
Feb 5, 2015
184
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05-05-2015
Doc's Request.
None
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
05-05-2015
IELTS Request
Initally submitted
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Upfront
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
13-10-2015
VISA ISSUED...
29-10-2015
dobes said:
Explain where you got 53 points for Canadian work experience? With 1 year 8 months, shouldn't it have been 35 if married and 40 if single?
Yeah, 53 should be when he completes 2 yrs. He got 53 whereas he shud have gotten 35 or 40, which would have taken is score below the cut off I guess