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James Mcguire said:
Dear Everyone,

I have been waiting for 1.5 years with a score of 384 and now I am totally down as I really don't know what to do. So after passing countless sleepless nights and anxiety I have got myself calm and finally came up with three options as a desperate measure.. before that some background info of mine. I am 30 years old and scored CLB 8 in IELTS (I scored CLB 10 in speaking and 9 in all the other areas apart from listening where I scored CLB 8).

1. As I have scored CLB 8 (7.5) in IELTS so overall I came up with a total score of CLB 8 so somehow if i can score 8 than I will be able to claim CLB 9 overall and will inflate my score for 430 (only helpful if score comes down).

2. If only i can score 430 I can apply for provincial nominee programs but I don't know which one to look at so will be grateful for any suggestions provided.

4. As I have passed ACCA recently it is allowing me to do pathway for masters which If i register now will take me till 2017 around Jan or Feb to finish, so I am guessing my score would be in addition to masters and CLB 9 as 464 (only if I get CLB 9 if not then it is 409)

3. FINALLY I am thinking as a last resort, shall I just fly to Canada for a masters program even if it would cost me a fortune for additional points however, as I am 30 now and doing masters will take me further two years hence, I will be losing 10 points when i am done so whatever additional points I will be getting is going to be cancelled out by the scores I will be losing because of my age.

Now guys.. my dear friends please advise me with your feedback, I will be grateful with whatever suggestions you provide me with.

I really look forward... Thanks a lot.
1) As you said, first of all, try to increase your CLB. CLB 10 or more gives you the maximum points.
2) If you do masters in Ontario, in addition to increasing your Express Entry points, you might become elligible for non-Express Entry Provincial nomination in Ontario and then apply for PR the old way (paper application)
http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPSTUDENTS_MASTERS.html
3) There are also 8 months post-graduate programs in Canada, which would increase your education score and you can get a 1 year post-graduate work permit. But you wouldn't be eligible for non-Express Entry Provincial nomination in Ontario with this.
https://www.ontransfer.ca/www/index_en.php?page=post_degree_opportunities_at_colleges_for_university_graduates

Also education in Canada might make it easier for you to find a job after you become PR.
 

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kateg said:
The liberals are anti-economic immigration (FSW). They prefer family-class/sponsorship, and refugees.
thats not accurate they may be in favour of family class but that doesnt mean they are anti-economic immigration.
 

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James Mcguire said:
Dear Everyone,

I have been waiting for 1.5 years with a score of 384 and now I am totally down as I really don't know what to do. So after passing countless sleepless nights and anxiety I have got myself calm and finally came up with three options as a desperate measure.. before that some background info of mine. I am 30 years old and scored CLB 8 in IELTS (I scored CLB 10 in speaking and 9 in all the other areas apart from listening where I scored CLB 8 ).

1. As I have scored CLB 8 (7.5) in IELTS so overall I came up with a total score of CLB 8 so somehow if i can score 8 than I will be able to claim CLB 9 overall and will inflate my score for 430 (only helpful if score comes down).

2. If only i can score 430 I can apply for provincial nominee programs but I don't know which one to look at so will be grateful for any suggestions provided.

4. As I have passed ACCA recently it is allowing me to do pathway for masters which If i register now will take me till 2017 around Jan or Feb to finish, so I am guessing my score would be in addition to masters and CLB 9 as 464 (only if I get CLB 9 if not then it is 409)

3. FINALLY I am thinking as a last resort, shall I just fly to Canada for a masters program even if it would cost me a fortune for additional points however, as I am 30 now and doing masters will take me further two years hence, I will be losing 10 points when i am done so whatever additional points I will be getting is going to be cancelled out by the scores I will be losing because of my age.

Now guys.. my dear friends please advise me with your feedback, I will be grateful with whatever suggestions you provide me with.

I really look forward... Thanks a lot.
1. Definitely take the IELTS and aim for a CLB 9 across the board.
2. A score of 430 makes you eligible for OINP (who should automatically send you a notification of interest as soon as your profile is over 400 CRS points, making you eligible to apply for them, and get an addition 600 CRS points via PNP), so that should be the one you should aim for.
3. I don't think this is a wise course of action, in my opinion. Stick with retaking the IELTS and applying for OINP

Hope that helps! All the best!
 

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kateg said:
The liberals are anti-economic immigration (FSW). They prefer family-class/sponsorship, and refugees.
They are certainly not anti-economic immigration, but they are more in flavor with family reunification and refugee claims.

To OP, the door of CEC to students are closed. The best chance now is PNP. Get your employer to be involve in provincial approval and apply in job-offer PNP categories. even paper based PNP gets you much better prospect.
 

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mead said:
thats not accurate they may be in favour of family class but that doesnt mean they are anti-economic immigration.
Yes, it does.

“The Temporary Foreign Worker Program is broken, and Liberals have been calling on the government to scale back the program and implement significant reforms,” said Mr. McCallum. “Liberals are committed to finding out first-hand how hard-working Canadians have been affected by the abuse of this government program.”
http://www.liberal.ca/liberals-reaching-canadians-temporary-foreign-worker-program/

it must require employers to demonstrate that every effort has been made to fill positions with Canadian workers and young Canadian workers in particular; and finally, the government should tighten the Labour Market Opinion approval process.
“The Liberal Party has repeatedly warned the Conservatives that abuses of this program have been hurting the middle class by driving down wages and displacing Canadian workers,”
http://www.liberal.ca/liberals-propose-reforms-temporary-foreign-worker-program/

The program as it stands has let down both Canadians and those who hope to someday become Canadians.

Liberals believe that the program needs to return to its original purpose: to fill jobs on a limited basis when no Canadian workers can be found.
Here's the problem for those that want to immigrate. They are adding 25,000 refugees. They are doubling the number of parent and grandparent sponsorships. They are adding express entry points for having siblings in Canada. They are raising the age of dependents. They have committed to making it easier for students to qualify under CEC.

Express Entry is a points-based system, and the points determine who gets invited. If family class gets to skip the line, the Express Entry points go up. If LMIAs are impossible to get, then individuals who are unable to qualify any other way are not permitted entry. Every person who makes the cutoff because they have a Canadian sibling means one other person no longer makes the cut. Every international student who gets Permanent Residence is one international worker who does not.

Unless they plan on drastically increasing immigration targets overall (which they have not announced so far), an increase in family class and refugees is a decrease in economic immigration. Given how many points are given for Canadian work experience, a decrease in TFW is a decrease in economic immigration.
 

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kateg said:
Express Entry is a points-based system, and the points determine who gets invited. If family class gets to skip the line, the Express Entry points go up. If LMIAs are impossible to get, then individuals who are unable to qualify any other way are not permitted entry. Every person who makes the cutoff because they have a Canadian sibling means one other person no longer makes the cut. Every international student who gets Permanent Residence is one international worker who does not.

Unless they plan on drastically increasing immigration targets overall (which they have not announced so far), an increase in family class and refugees is a decrease in economic immigration. Given how many points are given for Canadian work experience, a decrease in TFW is a decrease in economic immigration.
Well said!

Don't you just relish the delicious irony where a 'conservative' government works hard on introducing a new legislation allowing more foreign workers to come into the country only for a 'liberal' government to come in and be more inward-focused with this overall emphasis on family reunification and refugee resettlement at the expense of purely skill-based economic immigration! Politics has rarely been honest but now even the labels have stopped making sense, tough times ahead for the next generation of voters...
 

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Asivad Anac said:
Well said!

Don't you just relish the delicious irony where a 'conservative' government works hard on introducing a new legislation allowing more foreign workers to come into the country only for a 'liberal' government to come in and be more inward-focused with this overall emphasis on family reunification and refugee resettlement at the expense of purely skill-based economic immigration! Politics has rarely been honest but now even the labels have stopped making sense, tough times ahead for the next generation of voters...
Harper's immigration plans aren't that hard to understand. Express entry was designed to drop backlogs and make things fast, and the points were designed to select young, educated, experienced workers. Harper wanted to bring in skilled immigrants.

It's amusing how many people on the forums got upset at him for doing it, particularly when they themselves stood to directly benefit from it. Somehow, they convinced themselves that they were better off with the liberals.

I've had people say that they would prefer the old 8 year wait in limbo and three years wait for citizenship, rather than 100 day processing time after selection and a four year wait. It's silly. Had harper not changed things, the wait was on track to be at 15 years by now.
 

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Harper's immigration plans aren't that hard to understand. Express entry was designed to drop backlogs and make things fast, and the points were designed to select young, educated, experienced workers. Harper wanted to bring in skilled immigrants.

It's amusing how many people on the forums got upset at him for doing it, particularly when they themselves stood to directly benefit from it. Somehow, they convinced themselves that they were better off with the liberals.

I've had people say that they would prefer the old 8 year wait in limbo and three years wait for citizenship, rather than 100 day processing time after selection and a four year wait. It's silly. Had harper not changed things, the wait was on track to be at 15 years by now.
And you lose an election partly because of that. No wonder politics and economics aren't BFFs. :D