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legalfalcon

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Dear @legalfalcon
My medical expired on May 2nd this year. On April 18th, my medical result changed from you don’t need a medical exam, we will let you know if that’s changes to you passed the medical exam on April 18th. Does it mean IRCC extended my medical for additional year? I am a US based applicant.
Thanks
It I at the discretion of the officer. If you have received the COPR and you are waiting to land, then as per the latest policy IRCC will extend your meds for 6 months if your medicals are graded M1 or M3.
 

ipaykwai

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Aug 10, 2013
397
193
manila
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
-06-2019
Nomination.....
-02-2019
AOR Received.
-06-2019
Med's Request
10-2019
Passport Req..
14-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
21-04-2022
LANDED..........
2-04-2022
1. No.

2. As long as you disclose it yourself, then before a decision is made it cannot be a misrepresentation since you disclosed it.

3. IRCC has all the information on your immigration in Canada in their database. Even if you do not disclose it, they can find it. However, it is prudent to disclose it in good faith.
Whew!! What a great relief on my part. Thank you very much again @legalfalcon . :) :) Having lockdown in our country makes me more keen on reviewing my applications that I submitted from time to time and I discover those stuff that I missed.
 

TN89

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It I at the discretion of the officer. If you have received the COPR and you are waiting to land, then as per the latest policy IRCC will extend your meds for 6 months if your medicals are graded M1 or M3.
I passed all steps per a phone call after my medical got updates, but still no COPR
 

slim-shady

Star Member
Feb 23, 2019
50
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It I at the discretion of the officer. If you have received the COPR and you are waiting to land, then as per the latest policy IRCC will extend your meds for 6 months if your medicals are graded M1 or M3.
Is the new 6 months medical extension valid for only COPR holders?
 

Formah

Star Member
Sep 12, 2019
53
18
please I need clarification on this issue. The spouse to an applicant used a wrong NOC for express entry application. Though points were not received with spouse employment. Do you think this will cause a problem? Kindly advice.
 

ipaykwai

Hero Member
Aug 10, 2013
397
193
manila
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
-06-2019
Nomination.....
-02-2019
AOR Received.
-06-2019
Med's Request
10-2019
Passport Req..
14-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
21-04-2022
LANDED..........
2-04-2022
hi again @legalfalcon and good day. follow up for my last inquiry , i already submitted my Letter of Explanation through CSE Webform declaring my refusals. 1. Is it ok that I did not filled up another schedule A form and make a letter instead?
2. How will i know if the CIC received my CSE?

Thanks.
 

nikki1992

Star Member
Dec 1, 2014
132
47
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
2282
Hello @legalfalcon

posting this for the second time as I am still awaiting your response

my pr application has been refused, I have a question now

refusal reason:

Section 11.2 of the Act requires that information provided in your Express Entry Profile concerning your
eligibility to be invited to apply (10.3(1)(e)) as well as the qualifications on the basis of which you were
ranked (10.3(1)(h)) be valid both at the time the invitation was issued and at the time the application for
permanent residence is received.
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) invited you to apply for permanent resident status
based on the qualifications you claimed in your Express Entry profile. In your Express Entry profile you
indicated you obtained a Canadian educational credential for 15 points from a 2 year post-secondary
program at Evergreen College- a private career college. I note this institution is not recognized by the
provincial authorities responsible for registering, accrediting, supervising and regulating such institutions
to issue the credential as defined in Immigration Regulation 73(1).
Based on the documentation submitted with your application for permanent residence, I am not satisfied
the you possess an eligible Canadian educational credential pursuant to Ministerial instruction 30(4)(a)
and therefore not eligible gain the claimed points.
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of 15 points that brought your rank below the lowest
ranking person who was invited to apply in your round of invitation, under the Express Entry
Comprehensive Ranking System.
As I have found that you no longer possess the qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under
an instruction given under paragraph

-----------------

my question:

can I reapply without claiming those 15 points for Canadian credential or do I need to deduct those extra 20 points as well for two or more degrees before re applying?

as per the letter they only mentioned 15 points deducted for private college education (Canadian credential)

please help!

Thanks
Nikhil
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
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9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
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FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I passed all steps per a phone call after my medical got updates, but still no COPR
If you are outland applicant, IRCC is not issuing ant COPRs or PPRs currently.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
please I need clarification on this issue. The spouse to an applicant used a wrong NOC for express entry application. Though points were not received with spouse employment. Do you think this will cause a problem? Kindly advice.
No, since spouse's foreign employment does not get any points, it is insignificant and does not matter. You can ideally answer no to employment for spouse (dependent applicant) in your form and you will not be asked for any work reference letters.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
hi again @legalfalcon and good day. follow up for my last inquiry , i already submitted my Letter of Explanation through CSE Webform declaring my refusals. 1. Is it ok that I did not filled up another schedule A form and make a letter instead?
2. How will i know if the CIC received my CSE?

Thanks.
Sec A or any form is only required if asked by IRCC.

IRCC will send an acknowledgement that they have received your CSE.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello @legalfalcon

posting this for the second time as I am still awaiting your response

my pr application has been refused, I have a question now

refusal reason:

Section 11.2 of the Act requires that information provided in your Express Entry Profile concerning your
eligibility to be invited to apply (10.3(1)(e)) as well as the qualifications on the basis of which you were
ranked (10.3(1)(h)) be valid both at the time the invitation was issued and at the time the application for
permanent residence is received.
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) invited you to apply for permanent resident status
based on the qualifications you claimed in your Express Entry profile. In your Express Entry profile you
indicated you obtained a Canadian educational credential for 15 points from a 2 year post-secondary
program at Evergreen College- a private career college. I note this institution is not recognized by the
provincial authorities responsible for registering, accrediting, supervising and regulating such institutions
to issue the credential as defined in Immigration Regulation 73(1).
Based on the documentation submitted with your application for permanent residence, I am not satisfied
the you possess an eligible Canadian educational credential pursuant to Ministerial instruction 30(4)(a)
and therefore not eligible gain the claimed points.
This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of 15 points that brought your rank below the lowest
ranking person who was invited to apply in your round of invitation, under the Express Entry
Comprehensive Ranking System.
As I have found that you no longer possess the qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under
an instruction given under paragraph

-----------------

my question:

can I reapply without claiming those 15 points for Canadian credential or do I need to deduct those extra 20 points as well for two or more degrees before re applying?

as per the letter they only mentioned 15 points deducted for private college education (Canadian credential)

please help!

Thanks
Nikhil
This is one of the grounds for refusal, this does not mean that everything else was in order. Instead, you should reevaluate your application and recalculate your points and then reapply.
 

nikki1992

Star Member
Dec 1, 2014
132
47
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
2282
This is one of the grounds for refusal, this does not mean that everything else was in order. Instead, you should reevaluate your application and recalculate your points and then reapply.
@legalfalcon Thank you so much for the response, I have recalculated it without claiming 15 points for Canadian education, This is what I got

Your overall score 452

Score breakdown
Score breakdown

Human capital
Your score is based on factors such as your skills, education, Canadian work experience and language ability.

Human capital
CriteriaScore
CRS - Human Capital - Age110
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education128
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency111
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency0
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience53

Spouse
Your spouse's score is based on their level of education, language ability and Canadian work experience.

Spouse
CriteriaScore
CRS - Spouse - Level of Education0
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience0

Skill transferability
Your score is based on your education, job experience and relevant qualifications (for trade occupations).

Skill transferability
CriteriaScore
CRS - Skill Transferability - Education50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience0
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification0

Other
Your score is based on factors such as a job offer, a nomination from a province or territory, siblings, French language skills and post-secondary Canadian education.

Other
CriteriaScore
CRS - Arranged Employment0
Provincial/Territorial Nomination0
CRS - Additional - PR or Canadian Sibling0
CRS - Canadian education0
CRS - Additional - French Proficiency or Bilingualism0

----------------------------------------------
I have created a new profile by answering everything, this time I made a change to the following

When you declare your Canadian education you are asked if the institution is:

- a private post-secondary institution that operates under the same rules and regulations as public institutions, or
- a private secondary or post-secondary institution (in Quebec) offering qualifying programs of 900 hours or longer leading to a diplôme d’études professionnelles (DEP) or an attestation de spécialisation professionnelle (ASP), or
- a Canadian private institution authorized by provincial statute to confer degrees but only if you are enrolled in one of the programs of study leading to a degree as authorized by the province and not in all programs of study offered by the private institution.

I have answered "NO".
If you answer NO you will NOT gain the extra Canadian education points.


and then it deducted 15 points for Canadian education and calculated as a two or more degrees and gave the above points 452 in total

Shall I go ahead and submit my application If got the ITA or shall I not declare my Canadian education in the education field at all?

Please HELP
 

Formah

Star Member
Sep 12, 2019
53
18
No, since spouse's foreign employment does not get any points, it is insignificant and does not matter. You can ideally answer no to employment for spouse (dependent applicant) in your form and you will not be asked for any work reference letters.
I have already submitted my application. I chose yes for employment and got a reference letter but mistakenly chose a wrong NOC. That is my concern.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon Thank you so much for the response, I have recalculated it without claiming 15 points for Canadian education, This is what I got

Your overall score 452

Score breakdown
Score breakdown

Human capital
Your score is based on factors such as your skills, education, Canadian work experience and language ability.

Human capital
CriteriaScore
CRS - Human Capital - Age110
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education128
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency111
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency0
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience53

Spouse
Your spouse's score is based on their level of education, language ability and Canadian work experience.

Spouse
CriteriaScore
CRS - Spouse - Level of Education0
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience0

Skill transferability
Your score is based on your education, job experience and relevant qualifications (for trade occupations).

Skill transferability
CriteriaScore
CRS - Skill Transferability - Education50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience0
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification0

Other
Your score is based on factors such as a job offer, a nomination from a province or territory, siblings, French language skills and post-secondary Canadian education.

Other
CriteriaScore
CRS - Arranged Employment0
Provincial/Territorial Nomination0
CRS - Additional - PR or Canadian Sibling0
CRS - Canadian education0
CRS - Additional - French Proficiency or Bilingualism0

----------------------------------------------
I have created a new profile by answering everything, this time I made a change to the following

When you declare your Canadian education you are asked if the institution is:

- a private post-secondary institution that operates under the same rules and regulations as public institutions, or
- a private secondary or post-secondary institution (in Quebec) offering qualifying programs of 900 hours or longer leading to a diplôme d’études professionnelles (DEP) or an attestation de spécialisation professionnelle (ASP), or
- a Canadian private institution authorized by provincial statute to confer degrees but only if you are enrolled in one of the programs of study leading to a degree as authorized by the province and not in all programs of study offered by the private institution.

I have answered "NO".
If you answer NO you will NOT gain the extra Canadian education points.


and then it deducted 15 points for Canadian education and calculated as a two or more degrees and gave the above points 452 in total

Shall I go ahead and submit my application If got the ITA or shall I not declare my Canadian education in the education field at all?

Please HELP
You will have to create a new profile and enter the pool again and wait for ITA.
 

nikki1992

Star Member
Dec 1, 2014
132
47
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
2282
You will have to create a new profile and enter the pool again and wait for ITA.
@legalfalcon Thanks for your quick response again.

I have created new profile and entered with above score

So, I should be good with the above points and can apply with the above score correct?

Please confirm!

Thanks
 
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