Thank you Asivad Anac

[Asivad Anac]

Thanks Asivad, I have one more question,

For PNP, is it must that we have to show $14853 funds for a family of two.

Depends on your program eligibility. If you're eligible for either both FSW & CEC or only FSW, Yes. If you're eligible for only CEC, No. It has also been shared in the forum that people who are already working in Canada can showcase their work authorization status, offer letter with salary details, pay stubs, T4s & NOAs along with any monies in the bank locally with a note explaining that they are already self-sufficient financially. This isn't a confirmed workaround though so it is prudent to showcase all the monies if the need arises in your specific case.

I can get a gift deed from my father but it comes in 3 types of scenarios as follows:

For the past one year, we have transferred money from ICICI Bank Canada (Joint Account of me & my wife) to ICICI Bank India (Joint Account of me & my father) which comes to $2590. I have an individual account in ICICI Bank India as well. Can I ask my father to transfer money from the ICICI Bank India (Joint Account of me & my father) to my individual account in ICICI Bank India or any other banks in Canada?
Or is there any other options please? Does it come under gift deed from my father or it will become my own savings?

My father has $3571 in our joint account(me & my father). We are taking a gift from him for this amount.

This is definitely doable and these will be considered your savings as your name features on the account. However, your father will also have to give you a signed self-declaration on a plain piece of paper (no gift deed/notarized affidavit required) that they have no reservations against you utilizing these funds from your joint account towards your POF purposes. That declaration along with a bank letter from ICICI Bank India containing all details required by CIC (or 6 months of bank statements duly signed and stamped by bank officials in lieu of that) would suffice provided there are no sudden unexplained and suspiciously large credits (say more than 2000 CAD in a single transaction) from an unknown source within the last 6 months in either the Canadian or Indian bank account as that might indicate borrowed funds. If you've transferred a large amount of funds at anytime within the last 6 months, you'll have to explain this by showing the corresponding debit entry from your Canadian account to rule out any suspicion on the officer's part.

My father sold a land in my name an year back & he did not deposit it in any banks, he had it in hand at home. Is that ok if he gifts me that money which comes to $9200?

This is also doable. These won't be regarded as your funds even though the property was in your name - too complicated to explain and too many loose ends so it isn't worth it. This can be explained as a gift from your father. Your father will have to provide a signed self-declaration on a plain piece of paper (no gift deed/notarized affidavit required) that these funds are a gift not a loan hence need not be returned to them at any point in time. They will have to deposit the funds into your bank account and you'll have to attach the paper trail of receiving those funds along with the gift letter and the letter from your bank which has all details required by CIC (or 6 months of bank statements duly signed and stamped by bank officials in lieu of that) would suffice provided there are no sudden unexplained and suspiciously large credits (say more than 2000 CAD in a single transaction) from an unknown source within the last 6 months in that particular bank account as that might indicate borrowed funds. That's it.

So altogether it comes to $15361.

Please brief me.

 

[TECC_Seneca]

You have a CRS of 480. You don't need those 600 points. And you're eligible only for CEC. So when you get an ITA (and it could be as early as this week or the next), you won't be asked for POF. Relax and let the process unfold!

Okay Asivad. I will take your word for it. I guess there is only so much one can do. Let it unfold. Once again, thanks for the help. I really admire the Good Samaritan in you.
I shall wait and watch now!

 

[sivatlp]

Thank you so much for your time and giving a reply briefly.

I got CEC met, FSW not met and PNP not met.
Frankly speaking we will be nil balanced @ the end of each month.

As per my understanding from your reply, in our case if we receive and accept a provincial nomination,
then we no need to show any funds rit?

At max, we can try to show funds around $1500 - 2000 from my salary along with work authorization status, offer letter with salary details, pay stubs, T4s & NOAs.

Is this fine?

Do we have to approach CRA for NOAs? How long will it take to receive the NOA?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Thank you so much for your time and giving a reply briefly.

I got CEC met, FSW not met and PNP not met.
Frankly speaking we will be nil balanced @ the end of each month.

As per my understanding from your reply, in our case if we receive and accept a provincial nomination,
then we no need to show any funds rit?

Yes.

At max, we can try to show funds around $1500 - 2000 from my salary along with work authorization status, offer letter with salary details, pay stubs, T4s & NOAs.

Is this fine?

This would be an overkill in your case as you are under CEC. You don't need to submit any of these. No harm submitting them but you aren't required to do this.

Do we have to approach CRA for NOAs? How long will it take to receive the NOA?

 

[sivatlp]

That would be so amazing!
Thanks for the clarification, Asivad.

 

[KingBing]

I have two scnerios..

1. My wife have Gold jewellery.. If we sale it and submit amount in my wife's account as she is principle applicant would it be suffice to show as proof of fund? What kind of documentation is required for this? In my country, jewellary purchase and sale receipt is not computerized, Just on a letter head of jeweller, if I submit sale receipt with translation of it, would it be okay?

2. I have Government prize bonds which is equavelent to Canadian 19000 dollars, I can sale those to show proof of funds, but problem is I bought these bonds from local dealers and they did not provide any sale receipt or purchase receipt, if I do sale those bonds in bank they will not provide any receipt as those prize bonds are like currency if you hold it, it is your property. What documents do I have to produce? Can I scan all those prize bonds only?

3. Last option is if I sale my above 2 assets and get self decleration from my parents that those funds are gift mony.

What would you guys suggest?

Kindly help

 

[blackpearl]

Hi Asivad,

Thanks for reply.

I have shares, fixed deposit and national Savings certificate investment worth around Rs 100,000 so that would another $1500. I have received a letter from CA for net worth. But it doesnt reflect latest balance of my savings account( which increased after my father transferred money with gift deed). Can it be an issue? Do I need to upload Shares statement and Savings certificates scan as well in PoF?

2. Bank statement in India didnt provide 6 months average balance. However they sent a transaction report for over a year. Should I attach this transaction report and explain that I dont have 6 months average balance.

3. Do I need to provide my salary or income details as well in job experience letter?

 

[ono]

Hi Asivad,

I have a funny situation at hand dont know what to do, I travelled to the USA for a day trip in June this year and I totally forgot to include this information in my Travel history form.

Now I had a Masters program done in 2004 in Greece in an American university and CIC is asking for an FBI certificate or prove that I was not resident in USA for 6 months or more, the 1st time I travelled to the USA was in June 2015, and I sent them prove that the 1st time I traveled to the USA was June 2015 three days ago.

Now am realizing that my information may be conflicting as I did not include my US trip in my travel history but sent prove that I travel in June, by the way I summited my application end of Aug.

Should I send a new Travel history form to CIC with letter of explanation asap or wait and see if they will notice the missing information from Travel history form?

 

[Asivad Anac]

I have two scnerios..

1. My wife have Gold jewellery.. If we sale it and submit amount in my wife's account as she is principle applicant would it be suffice to show as proof of fund? What kind of documentation is required for this? In my country, jewellary purchase and sale receipt is not computerized, Just on a letter head of jeweller, if I submit sale receipt with translation of it, would it be okay?

Tough to comment. Officer's discretion based on the evidence you would submit.

2. I have Government prize bonds which is equavelent to Canadian 19000 dollars, I can sale those to show proof of funds, but problem is I bought these bonds from local dealers and they did not provide any sale receipt or purchase receipt, if I do sale those bonds in bank they will not provide any receipt as those prize bonds are like currency if you hold it, it is your property. What documents do I have to produce? Can I scan all those prize bonds only?

That's the best you can do to prove that the asset belongs to you. Does your name feature on those bonds anywhere? Is there any paperwork to prove that you own these exclusively? Else it will be hard to conclusively prove that these are your assets.

3. Last option is if I sale my above 2 assets and get self decleration from my parents that those funds are gift mony.

This will be the easiest option. No confusions here.

What would you guys suggest?

Kindly help

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad,

Thanks for reply.

I have shares, fixed deposit and national Savings certificate investment worth around Rs 100,000 so that would another $1500. I have received a letter from CA for net worth. But it doesnt reflect latest balance of my savings account( which increased after my father transferred money with gift deed). Can it be an issue? Do I need to upload Shares statement and Savings certificates scan as well in PoF?

CIC doesn't ask for net worth certificates. All you need to showcase is required monies in the bank and prove that they belong only to you and aren't borrowed. Share certificates won't be acceptable as POF.

2. Bank statement in India didnt provide 6 months average balance. However they sent a transaction report for over a year. Should I attach this transaction report and explain that I dont have 6 months average balance.

You don't need it for 1 year. 6 month bank statements would suffice.

3. Do I need to provide my salary or income details as well in job experience letter?

Yes. That confirms to CIC that it was a paid gig not an unpaid internship/volunteer work.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad,

I have a funny situation at hand dont know what to do, I travelled to the USA for a day trip in June this year and I totally forgot to include this information in my Travel history form.

Now I had a Masters program done in 2004 in Greece in an American university and CIC is asking for an FBI certificate or prove that I was not resident in USA for 6 months or more, the 1st time I travelled to the USA was in June 2015, and I sent them prove that the 1st time I traveled to the USA was June 2015 three days ago.

Now am realizing that my information may be conflicting as I did not include my US trip in my travel history but sent prove that I travel in June, by the way I summited my application end of Aug.

Should I send a new Travel history form to CIC with letter of explanation asap or wait and see if they will notice the missing information from Travel history form?

You were asked for the PCC because you probably indicated country of education as US even though you were in Greece. All you needed to do was clear that misconception.


Recommend that you just send in a CSE with this clarification again and reiterating that you don't need to provide a PCC for US.

 

[ono]

Thank you.

 

[md321]

Hi Asivad,

I have been asked to submit Schedule A for me and my family. During filling up, I found that all sections are required to fill by days(Though the heading is "YYYY-MM", but while filling the date I have to put day also in "YYYY-MM-DD" format). Previously(Approximately 2 months before) I saw the form requiring to fill only by months in "YYYY-MM" format. Now I am confused whether I downloaded the correct form or not or opened the form correctly or not.

I am filling IMM 5669 E. Previously I saw the form 1st page contains two column. One column contains question 1 to 5 and 2nd column contains question 6 with yes/no option. But the one I am getting now has all 6 questions in one column, one under another. Am I filling the correct form ?

My third question is, in additional sheet, shall I account for only months & years in "YYYY-MM" format or years-months-days in "YYYY-MM-DD" format. As in the actual form I had to fill years-months-days in YYYY-MM-DD format.

Thank you

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad,

I have been asked to submit Schedule A for me and my family. During filling up, I found that all sections are required to fill by days(Though the heading is "YYYY-MM", but while filling the date I have to put day also in "YYYY-MM-DD" format). Previously(Approximately 2 months before) I saw the form requiring to fill only by months in "YYYY-MM" format. Now I am confused whether I downloaded the correct form or not or opened the form correctly or not.

That's the correct form. If you don't remember exact dates, just go with the first/last day of the month. Doesn't matter, they'll count just the month/year.

I am filling IMM 5669 E. Previously I saw the form 1st page contains two column. One column contains question 1 to 5 and 2nd column contains question 6 with yes/no option. But the one I am getting now has all 6 questions in one column, one under another. Am I filling the correct form ?

That's the correct form. Might have updated it recently.

My third question is, in additional sheet, shall I account for only months & years in "YYYY-MM" format or years-months-days in "YYYY-MM-DD" format. As in the actual form I had to fill years-months-days in YYYY-MM-DD format.

Just the month/year would suffice. If you want to include dates, put in actual dates if you remember them else input first/last date of the month

Thank you

 

[ono]

Hi Asivad,

I got this reply from another thread, what do you think?



I have a funny situation at hand dont know what to do, I travelled to the USA for a day trip in June this year and I totally forgot to include this information in my Travel history form.

Now I had a Masters program done in 2004 in Greece in an American university and CIC is asking for an FBI certificate or prove that I was not resident in USA for 6 months or more, the 1st time I travelled to the USA was in June 2015, and I sent them prove that the 1st time I traveled to the USA was June 2015 three days ago.

Now am realizing that my information may be conflicting as I did not include my US trip in my travel history but sent prove that I travel in June, by the way I summited my application end of Aug.

Should I send a new Travel history form to CIC with letter of explanation asap or wait and see if they will notice the missing information from Travel history form?

Don't wait ....this can be taken as misinterpretation. I m not sure where but I read something like this in rejection thread.
It never hurts to act fast and explain urself clearly ASAP. Because misinterpretation not only cause rejection but can lead to ban.
I don't want to discourage u or scare u but I think u should explain urself.
Also try contacting Asivad anac. He would better guide u.
Good luck