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T4 and T4A for postdocs

Cos

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I am a postdoc (i.e. a contract-based position requiring a PhD degree and work permit) and receive both T4 and T4A slips at the end of tax year (with my annual income and tax stated on the T4A). Does this apply to anyone else who has applied under CEC? Is the fact that income tax appears on the T4A slips sufficient for CIC considerations?

Any previous applicants with similar cases, kindly share your experiences!

PS: I have tried to define postdoc as it applies to international fellows, to encourage responses from forum members who may have also received T4As (income tax reported) and have reached advanced stages of PR applications via the CEC class.
 

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Weird that they should give you a T4A. It should be OK in your case, I'm sure you'll be able to get a letter from your employer with all the required information.
 

Cos

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jes_ON said:
Weird that they should give you a T4A. It should be OK in your case, I'm sure you'll be able to get a letter from your employer with all the required information.
Thanks Jes,
I believe it should be fine. It would be nice to hear the experiences of other postdocs. Am sure a a lot receive T4A and have applied through CEC.
 

bp

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I am also a postdoc, I do receive T4 NOT T4A. I applied under FSW3 in June 2010, it is taking so much time. Therefore, I am planning to apply under CEC, would T4 or T4A make any difference? Thanks
 

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bp said:
I am also a postdoc, I do receive T4 NOT T4A. I applied under FSW3 in June 2010, it is taking so much time. Therefore, I am planning to apply under CEC, would T4 or T4A make any difference? Thanks
If you get T4s, that's good. T4As are generally for non-employment income, (stipends, self-employed) - this type of experience would be excluded from CEC.
 

Cos

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bp said:
I am also a postdoc, I do receive T4 NOT T4A. I applied under FSW3 in June 2010, it is taking so much time. Therefore, I am planning to apply under CEC, would T4 or T4A make any difference? Thanks
Are you a Postdoctoral Associate (PDA) or Postdoctoral Fellow (PDF)? It appears most PDFs receive T4As but are not classified as self-employed.
 

guelphmm

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Cos said:
Thanks Jes,
I believe it should be fine. It would be nice to hear the experiences of other postdocs. Am sure a a lot receive T4A and have applied through CEC.
I am not sure what do you mean by recieving both T4 and T4A, i am post-doc and recieve only T4.

I think your tax assesment, employer letter and work permit will substaniate the T4A and should be OK with the CEC.

Also, you can ask your office to calrify about T4A instead of T4
 

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There is no consensus on the status of postdocs in Canada.
At some universities PDF are classified as employees, at others as students.

CRA counts all PDFs as employees. Check your tax assessment letter - your salary should be listed as taxable employment income.
 

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I'm a postdoc, and having exactly the same situation with Cos.

Is there any other members successfully applied through CEC?

Thank you!
 

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I am a postdoc as well. I receive T4A as well. I have just sent my application in May 28. I have included supervisor reference letter, T4A, work permit, a letter from a grad school explaining my employment, and I also wrote long cover letter about the postdoc.... I hope that should be sufficient. The other problem is that in my work permit, they wrote as post-secondary teaching assistant. These all will depend on the understanding of the CIC officer.
 

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Thanks, ggalex.

What NOC code did you use for your CEC application?
 

ggalex

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I chose the closest to my research area (NOC 2111). I have just skimmed through T4A posts. It looks like it should be ok to apply with T4A.
 

Cos

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ggalex,

T4As should be OK for Postdocs. Some universities (e.g. mine) use T4As or T4s depending on the nature of Postdoc funding. In any case, they are all fully taxed and are both sufficient for CEC applications. Regarding NOC, the job code that best describes your duties will be the best bet. This is particularly important considering that some people work in job positions widely different from their degree!

Good luck guys.
 

Cos

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varag said:
Can anyone confirm that whether T4A slips are fine for applying under CEC?
I applied with T4A and have done medical examination. Guess that is a further confirmation that T4A is fine for CEC consideration!