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SuperVisa Holder got an LMO. Anyone with tourist have the same situation.Phils

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PMM said:
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No, you can't get a work permit at an Airport unless you are arriving from overseas.
No disrespect Master PMM, but that was not the reason why I asked the question. The question was asked in the context of getting information from CIC.

In each PoE there is a CBSA office and i found out from personal experience that you can make immigration inquiries by going to the CBSA office inside the Airports. Should you find that you can't contact CIC and that is it much more easy to go to the airport CBSA office, you may go there to inquire. Although they may be surprised by why you came into the office, once you explain your intentions, they are often accommodating.
 

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@ragluf..yeah , we're like 10 mins drive to airport but then it would take forever I believe coz yes it is international and surely crazy busy.Thanks for the info in regards to the best time i should place a call..I'll try to contact them this Monday as soon as the clock ticks 8:00 am.. :D
 

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@ NT_PH .. We will do all the paperworks as soon as we have the LMO here then we send it to Manila Embassy. Yung nga sabi ng agent, its a big no to process his work permit here. Nag asked ako pwede punta nalang ng boarder, and he said no... :)
 

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ANAN said:
@ ragluf..yeah , we're like 10 mins drive to airport but then it would take forever I believe coz yes it is international and surely crazy busy.Thanks for the info in regards to the best time i should place a call..I'll try to contact them this Monday as soon as the clock ticks 8:00 am.. :D
Just asking - could you check if your father was issued a Visitor Record or a Temporary Residence Permit when he entered the country using a SuperVisa?
 

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A temporary residence permit allows an inadmissible person entry into Canada. If the OP's dad has a Supervisa, then he was allowed entry hence he is not a Temporary Residence Permit holder. Initial WP/visa applications are made outside Canada..

ragluf said:
I would suggest you call CIC (the toll free number in Canada). Clarify with them what I see below. I think he can apply within Canada as he satisfies :
Eligibility to apply from inside Canada

You can only apply for a work permit from inside Canada if:

you have a valid study or work permit, or your spouse or parents have a study or work permit
you have a work permit for one job but want to apply for a work permit for a different job
you have a temporary resident permit that is valid for six months or more or
you are in Canada because you have already applied for permanent residence from inside Canada. You will have to pass certain stages in the main application process before you can be eligible for a work permit.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-eligible.asp

Given that he is a SuperVisa holder and can stay longer in Canada (2 years/stay) - he has ample time to process the TWP. What was issued to him, a visitor record or a temporary residence permit at POE? I'd check first if he can do it in-country.

Congratulations to your dad!
 

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A temporary residence permit allows an inadmissible person entry into Canada. If the OP's dad has a Supervisa, then he was allowed entry hence he is not a Temporary Residence Permit holder. Initial WP/visa applications are made outside Canada..
@job_seeker,

I was wondering about that. With all due respect, I don't think a TRP is blanket issued only to persons inadmissible to the country. This is why I was asking the OP what her dad actually has - a VR or a TRP - as I have not seen what are issued to SuperVisa holders at PoE. Because I have a WP and a TRP (and I don't think I am inadmissible here :) :) ) - two separate pieces of official documents. Issued at the PoE upon presentation of my valid worker's visa and recently renewed online. Would seem that the issuance of the TRP does fall under different conditions on a case to case basis. My wife came with me on a visit visa approved at the same time as my WP, and was issued a VR, but we successfully changed that to an OWP. She was sent her OWP and TRP (until end date of my current WP in 2013) last year.

I asked the CBSA officer after returning back recently and just the same, sent another question to a CAPIC acquiantance - well both of them mentioned there are general confusions on the permit and visa, but the response I got was generally a TRP is issued if your applied stay is greater than 6 months. Again - certain conditions need to be met for a stay of > 6mos to be authorized and allowed. The CBSA officer pointed out that the TRP allows me to stay for the period defined in the document, but not work. The WP allows me to legally be employed. And, as he noted, in some cases, the TRP or 'authorization for temporary residence' is just a clause in the WP under conditions or notes. So possession of both - as he noted, allows me to legally reside and be employed for the duration specified in the documents.

hope this clarifies the context in which I asked the question... :)
 

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I am sure you don't have a TRP. You have a work permit and a temporary resident visa (the counter foil that is pasted on your passport).

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5554ETOC.asp

Note: A work or study permit, or a temporary resident visa is not a temporary resident permit. These documents are clearly marked as visas or work and study permits. You are not a temporary resident permit holder unless you are inadmissible and you have been issued a document specifically identified as a Temporary Resident Permit.

ragluf said:
@ job_seeker,

I was wondering about that. With all due respect, I don't think a TRP is blanket issued only to persons inadmissible to the country. This is why I was asking the OP what her dad actually has - a VR or a TRP - as I have not seen what are issued to SuperVisa holders at PoE. Because I have a WP and a TRP (and I don't think I am inadmissible here :) :) ) - two separate pieces of official documents. Issued at the PoE upon presentation of my valid worker's visa and recently renewed online. Would seem that the issuance of the TRP does fall under different conditions on a case to case basis. My wife came with me on a visit visa approved at the same time as my WP, and was issued a VR, but we successfully changed that to an OWP. She was sent her OWP and TRP (until end date of my current WP in 2013) last year.

I asked the CBSA officer after returning back recently and just the same, sent another question to a CAPIC acquiantance - well both of them mentioned there are general confusions on the permit and visa, but the response I got was generally a TRP is issued if your applied stay is greater than 6 months. Again - certain conditions need to be met for a stay of > 6mos to be authorized and allowed. The CBSA officer pointed out that the TRP allows me to stay for the period defined in the document, but not work. The WP allows me to legally be employed. And, as he noted, in some cases, the TRP or 'authorization for temporary residence' is just a clause in the WP under conditions or notes. So possession of both - as he noted, allows me to legally reside and be employed for the duration specified in the documents.

hope this clarifies the context in which I asked the question... :)
 

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I am sure you don't have a TRP. You have a work permit and a temporary resident visa (the counter foil that is pasted on your passport).
:) :) :) That is why I was wondering. I physically have a counter-foil (visa attached to the passport), I have a WP (separate piece of official paper with Control Number and heading - Work Permit, clearly listing the conditions of my employment) and a Temporary Residence Permit (separate piece of paper - similar to the Work Permit - with separate control number and with heading - Temporary Residence Permit) indicating entry date and duration of permitted stay.

I clarified that with the CBSA officer upon my return, also during visa renewal at CEM when I went for vacation and applied for re-entry. They said you are in possession of the WP, TRP and visa. And the same explanation was what I got = visa allows entry (counterfoil), WP allows you to be legally employed, TRP allows you to stay and reside in the country for the duration specified in the TRP.

Anyways - what I have may not be what most have or most commonly issued. might be unique :) so I was describing it using what I have - if we need to discuss this further we can take it off-thread.

As always - appreciate your esteemed feedback and advise.
 

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Yours is probably an exception rather than the rule.

ragluf said:
:) :) :) That is why I was wondering. I physically have a counter-foil (visa attached to the passport), I have a WP (separate piece of official paper with Control Number and heading - Work Permit, clearly listing the conditions of my employment) and a Temporary Residence Permit (separate piece of paper - similar to the Work Permit - with separate control number and with heading - Temporary Residence Permit) indicating entry date and duration of permitted stay.

I clarified that with the CBSA officer upon my return, also during visa renewal at CEM when I went for vacation and applied for re-entry. They said you are in possession of the WP, TRP and visa. And the same explanation was what I got = visa allows entry (counterfoil), WP allows you to be legally employed, TRP allows you to stay and reside in the country for the duration specified in the TRP.

Anyways - what I have may not be what most have or most commonly issued. might be unique :) so I was describing it using what I have - if we need to discuss this further we can take it off-thread.

As always - appreciate your esteemed feedback and advise.