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Super visa insurance - specific info/help needed please.....

emr

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Aug 13, 2009
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Hi all,

Looking at the newly introduced super visa for my parents. I know there are other topics on the insurance for this visa.

My Q, specifically, pertains to those who are in the same boat as me i.e.......parent/s who have pre-existing medical conditions...this is indeed a biggie but still am hopeful that there is some ins company out there who do have coverage (with high premiums, of course - does not matter)......

Anyone out there......specifically asking those who are in the same situation?

Wordings about such coverage in ins appl/docs ...PHEW!!!!!!! and very nerve-racking ..... so anybody pls.....

Will be highly grateful.....thanks in advance!!!!
 

OnlineInsPro

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Dec 12, 2011
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Dear emr: I have some good news! There are insurance companies which do cover pre-existing conditions, with limitations. please contact me directly at into@dfsinc.ca so that we can discuss this offline with specifics.

Thank-you
Tracy DesLaurier, CHS
DesLaurier Financial Services
www.dfsinc.ca or www.travelinsure.ca
1-888-933-7462
info@dfsinc.ca
 

emr

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Aug 13, 2009
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Thank you Tracy, will get in touch with you.

Any one with parent/s in a similar condition looking at applying for super visa and shopping for insurance....please reply.....
 

Gary Goldshmidt

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Dec 4, 2011
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Call me TIC travel insurance will underwrite this and get back to you with an offer in writing.
I will forward you their detailed medical application, it takes about 4 days for them to reply with an offer.
I now have about a dozen of these in the pipeline so don't feel a lone and it is nothing to get alarmed about rating are common you will simply pay a bit more for the insurance.

Here is my contact info:

Stone-Hedge Financial Group Inc.
Gary Goldshmidt
Managing Director
Toll Free 1.888.410.4393
Toronto Local Tel: 416.410.4393
Email: gary@stone-hedgefinancialgroup.ca
 

whitebird

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Please guide, how to apply for a Super Visa for parents. Please provide details about the forms needed and supporting documents.

CIC website shows the link below, but it shows the only form IMM 5257
Application for a Temporary Resident Visa Made Outside of Canada [IMM5257]
Is this single form is enough or we fill the complete application package for "TEMPORARY RESIDENT VISA"
Please solve this confusion.
Thanks.
 

haver

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Hi All,

I am an insurance agent with over than 10 years expirience and 3 years on this forum.
I am glad to offer you to choose any of 3 great Canadian insurance companies eligible for selling
Super Visa Insurance .
I have trained partners and agents which explain you all important points of this kind of insurance.
You can either call 1-604-875-8878 or email arbetov.office @ gmail.com or just visit
SuperVisa Insurance website and buy it online.

If you have any questions my partners and I here to help you.
 
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Haitokin

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Aug 28, 2011
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I am an independent travel insurance broker :eek: too! (Full disclosure).

To obtain a visitors to Canada insurance policy that includes coverage for illnesses related to pre-existing medical conditions, you'll need to use a broker that is familiar with as many policies as possible - in order to obtain a fair price, and coverage that matches up with your (parent's) medical situation. Most research can be done online first - and then specific questions can be asked to ensure understanding of the coverage being offered.

I set up the comparable quote engine at BestQuotetravelinsurance.ca http://www.bestquotetravelinsurance.ca/parent-and-grandparent-super-visa-health-insurance so people could easily look at their supervisa insurance options by getting a quote, comparing prices and coverage options. The policies come with a immediate note about whether not they offer coverage for stable pre-existing medical conditions, but all contracts use different wording - so each must be checked closely because you will not be comparing apple vs apples. Generally though, most policies require the pre-existing condition to be stable (each policy has its own definition of 'stable', 'change of medication' etc) for 90-180 days prior to arrival in Canada.

However, one thing to note is that all visitor to Canada insurance is for medical emergencies - not routine checkups. So a person could be diabetic and the condition may be defined as stable so the insurance contract would cover any illnesses that may be related to the diabetes (pancreatic problems?, ect), but going to the doctor to have the insulin levels monitored frequently while the parent is here would have to be paid for by cash - the insurance doesn't cover 'treatment' of chronic conditions.

Now, FYI: the insurance companies realize that the present policies on the market were not meant for long term coverage - and they will address this soon by issuing new 'blended' policies that merge visitors to Canada insurance with more US style private health insurance coverage - the kind offered by an expatriate policy for example. I expect this will first happen this quarter - definately the first half of this year. That blended coverage will probably not cost any more than the policies cost today - but the coverage will be mildly more appropriate.

In terms of prices, you won't find any better prices than what BestQuote Travel Insurance.ca can offer: http://www.bestquotetravelinsurance.ca/super-visa-insurance-bestquote-rates - but it always makes sense to check back with the site from time to time to see if one of our insurance companies have offered a new policy, or changed their rates. We'll have a few more policies on the site in the weeks to come as well - although these are already offered to our customers when they call us.

I beleive Gary is trying to make a grand distinction between using TIC (we also use them for direct underwriting when necessary or preferred) to obtain an individually underwritten policy versus using an policy that 'underwrites itself' by restricting the coverage to the precise contract language. Both methods are appropriate for obtaining coverage if you are certain of your medical condition and its not too complex - otherwise using TIC (or the other company that we use to obtain an answer in minutes rather than 4 days) to directly underwrite is a better option. Gary will have to admit though, that he sells many more policies that cover pre-existing medical conditions that are not from TIC.

Call toll free to inquire 1-855-237-8808 BestQuote Travel Insurance Agency.
 

OnlineInsPro

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Dec 12, 2011
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Very good comments, I fully agree.

Tracy DesLaurier, CHS. Super Visa Insurance Specialist
http://travelinsure.ca or http://dfsinc.ca
info@dfsinc.ca
1-888-933-7462
 

oceans_end

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Dec 16, 2009
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call Chinese travel Agency for cheap travel insurance, a RBC location quoted me $25/day for a 81yr old $50K covering pre existing conditions, a travel agency in Chinatown gave me the samething by RBC for $17/day.
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Buffalo
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App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
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01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
oceans_end said:
call Chinese travel Agency for cheap travel insurance, a RBC location quoted me $25/day for a 81yr old $50K covering pre existing conditions, a travel agency in Chinatown gave me the samething by RBC for $17/day.
I believe the minimum coverage required for the super visa is $100K (rather than $50k).
 

OnlineInsPro

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Dec 12, 2011
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The difference in premium would be due to the difference in coverage. $100,000 is indeed the minimum amount of coverage required under the Super Visa Program! This shows why you should stick to reputable agents, with experience in this area. Insurance is not like most other products - if you are buying "Product X" from "Company B", the price will be the same from "Broker X", "Broker Y" or "Broker Z". You are not saving any money if you buy the wrong product from the wrong company. Use someone with appropriate experience, and you will not be sorry!

Tracy DesLaurier, CHS. Super Visa Insurance Specialist
DesLaurier Financial Services
http://www.dfsinc.ca or http://www.travelinsure.ca
1-888-933-7462
info@dfsinc.ca
 

Rossei

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Jun 6, 2010
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Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Yes
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
App. Filed.......
18-Jan-2011 (Buffalo)
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
26-Nov-2010
AOR Received.
21-Jul-2011 (Email)
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
25-Jul-2011 (Reg. Mail)
Med's Done....
03-Aug-2011
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
08-Sep-2011 (Email)
VISA ISSUED...
20-Sep-2011 (Buffalo)
LANDED..........
20-Sep-2011 (Niagara)
whitebird said:
Please guide, how to apply for a Super Visa for parents. Please provide details about the forms needed and supporting documents.

CIC website shows the link below, but it shows the only form IMM 5257
Application for a Temporary Resident Visa Made Outside of Canada [IMM5257]
Is this single form is enough or we fill the complete application package for "TEMPORARY RESIDENT VISA"
Please solve this confusion.
Thanks.
I think you have to complete the whole application package like any TRV application from outside Canada though it gives you just a link to the main application form IMM 5257 (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/supervisa-how.asp) like you said. But again, it also depends on the country where you are applying from.

As far I know, the first 3 below are kind of mandatory:
 Application for Temporary Resident Visa Made Outside of Canada (IMM 5257)
 Family Information (IMM 5645)
 Document Checklist (IMM 5484)

 Schedule 1 – Application for a Temporary Resident Visa Made Outside of Canada (IMM5257 – Schedule 1), if applicable
 Statutory Declaration of Common-law Union (IMM 5409), if applicable
 Use of a Representative (IMM 5476), if applicable
 

Rossei

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2010
2,663
443
Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Yes
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
App. Filed.......
18-Jan-2011 (Buffalo)
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
26-Nov-2010
AOR Received.
21-Jul-2011 (Email)
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
25-Jul-2011 (Reg. Mail)
Med's Done....
03-Aug-2011
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
08-Sep-2011 (Email)
VISA ISSUED...
20-Sep-2011 (Buffalo)
LANDED..........
20-Sep-2011 (Niagara)
Haitokin said:
I set up the comparable quote engine at BestQuotetravelinsurance.ca http://www.bestquotetravelinsurance.ca/parent-and-grandparent-super-visa-health-insurance so people could easily look at their supervisa insurance options by getting a quote, comparing prices and coverage options.
I followed your link, filled out the form for "Get A Quote Here" and it just sends me a Quote# XXXXX to my email. The quote# is a hyperlink which opens a blank page with the same info I provided with "Get A Quote Here" green form. It doesn't take me to the next step of Compare Price or something. What's the point of saving the info I myself filled out?

I've another question re: SuperVisa insurance. It seems like when you choose "Visitor to Canada" and "Emergency Medical" in the first 2 rows, it gives you only choice of "Single-Trip" in the policy type. So, it means my parent cannot travel back to his/her country after he/she arrives here in Canada. If he/she does, the insurance has to be bought again for the rest of the year? Will I get refund then if I buy 1-year long insurance in advance and my parent doesn't stay that long? That brings me to the worst scenario: what happens if I buy insurance for my parent and he/she doesn't get the Visa at all?

Thanks in advance.
 

Gary Goldshmidt

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Dec 4, 2011
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Call me or email me I can help you. I have dozens of individuals in your situation. I deal with five companies one two are prepared to underwrite at time of application, I will forward a detailed medial questionaire to you and the insurance company will get back to you within four business days. Insurance policies that cover pre-existing conditions require a stability period of anywhere from 90 to 365 days depending on the wording of their policy. What I recommend is that you ask your parent or grandparents to bring with them all medical records and a letter from a doctor or medical facility indicating they are stable and are able to travel, otherwise if a claim is denied you have no evidence to support your claim. I would also avoid companies with poor track records of paying claims, you can see my other blogs and the CBC investigative report video on this topic. Getting a quote from a web site for your situation is useless, don't waste your time. You need to try to get the policy medicaly underwriten.