Spouse inclusion in application

[amro375]

Hello guys, hope many of us are in the same situation. When I create EE account I have the following question:

Is your spouse/common-law partner included in this application?

If I say NO, and I get PR does my wife get PR with me as dependant or NO
Can I choose not to include her in the application i.e I am not planning to get points for her, but I want to have her and my child as dependant applicants?

If I choose to add her, later in the form it ask me question for her in order to calculate points. But there is no form for child dependancy in the application, therefore I beleive that If you say NO you can apply alone and get points only for yourself but the wife and children will get PR with you also.

AM I CORRECT???

 

[slax]

Hello guys, hope many of us are in the same situation. When I create EE account I have the following question:

Is your spouse/common-law partner included in this application?

If I say NO, and I get PR does my wife get PR with me as dependant or NO
Can I choose not to include her in the application i.e I am not planning to get points for her, but I want to have her and my child as dependant applicants?

If I choose to add her, later in the form it ask me question for her in order to calculate points. But there is no form for child dependancy in the application, therefore I beleive that If you say NO you can apply alone and get points only for yourself but the wife and children will get PR with you also.

AM I CORRECT???

when you apply with your information and you go through with the complete process, later when you want to plan you bring your wife and child, there is another process for that. They will come as dependents on your application.

 

[chamarajaya]

Hi,
yes this profile is oly for point calculating.

if you got invitation there is another applicatio set for PRappication. you can add your all dependent in that application.

Thanks

 

[arclightz]

God question raised. What I know is that if you are married then you have to include your spouse in it even if no points are claimed for her, anyone who differs with it is encouraged to answer

 

[susana]

God question raised. What I know is that if you are married then you have to include your spouse in it even if no points are claimed for her, anyone who differs with it is encouraged to answer

Include your wife since the beginnig , the ban for misrepresentation is five years, as points are different for single and married applicants.
If you are invited to apply and include your wife as dependant with your application , you can be rejected for misrepresentation.

 

[amro375]

when you apply with your information and you go through with the complete process, later when you want to plan you bring your wife and child, there is another process for that. They will come as dependents on your application.

You mean once I get PR I need to sponsor them? If that's the case then It will take too long I beleive?

 

[amro375]

Hi,
yes this profile is oly for point calculating.

if you got invitation there is another applicatio set for PRappication. you can add your all dependent in that application.

Thanks

So basically I can calculate which way I can score more points and if that means applying alone than to go with it.
My wife does not have IELTS and ECA so only for that I need to spend 500 CAD plus the time required and my calculations are that me alone can get more points than to add my wife with IELTS and ECA.

Is there any source for this? Guy I want to be able to bring my wife and son with me... please confirm on this as not to make some stupid mistake and than to have to live 2 years alone....

 

[amro375]

Include your wife since the beginnig , the ban for misrepresentation is five years, as points are different for single and married applicants.
If you are invited to apply and include your wife as dependant with your application , you can be rejected for misrepresentation.

Well what makes me raise the question is that when you create EE profile it ask you if you are married. Here you need too answer YES. But the next question is if your spouse will be part of the application. This means that it is up to you to decide. In this way you are don't lie.
My understanding is that if you do not include her then your points will be calculated like you are applying alone.

 

[susana]

Well what makes me raise the question is that when you create EE profile it ask you if you are married. Here you need too answer YES. But the next question is if your spouse will be part of the application. This means that it is up to you to decide. In this way you are don't lie.
My understanding is that if you do not include her then your points will be calculated like you are applying alone.

Wrong ! Your wife will be part of your application as she is your dependant so the answer is yes. If you don't have IELTS and ECA for her you won't get the points but you will be able to include her as dependant.

If you answer NO to the question , your wife has to be listed as NON accompanying Family member in your application and she won't be included. You will need to sponsor her after getting your PR.

 

[amro375]

Wrong ! Your wife will be part of your application as she is your dependant so the answer is yes. If you don't have IELTS and ECA for her you won't get the points but you will be able to include her as dependant.

If you answer NO to the question , your wife has to be listed as NON accompanying Family member in your application and she won't be included. You will need to sponsor her after getting your PR.

Well if you try the eligibility test it ask you if you are married. You say YES. Then it asks you is your spouse part of the application. You can say YES and NO. If you say NO you are transfered to MyCIC where you can create your profile but they will require information only about you and not your spouse.

As I understand your point is that because the spouse wont be included in the aplication that means only you will get PR. But even If I include my wife in the application there is nowhere to include my son. By that logic it will mean that only my wife and me will get PR and not my son.
It seems like, as someone else stated above, this is only for points. Once you get nominated you are primary applicant, and probably CIC will ask you to fill all those forms like doing old normal FSW application. At that point you can include all the members of your family.

But hey, that's just my thoughts. Best is to call CIC and verify fr ourselves. I will try to call them one of this days,
If someone else find reliable answare please share it here.

 

[mits0829]

Well if you try the eligibility test it ask you if you are married. You say YES. Then it asks you is your spouse part of the application. You can say YES and NO. If you say NO you are transfered to MyCIC where you can create your profile but they will require information only about you and not your spouse.

As I understand your point is that because the spouse wont be included in the aplication that means only you will get PR. But even If I include my wife in the application there is nowhere to include my son. By that logic it will mean that only my wife and me will get PR and not my son.
It seems like, as someone else stated above, this is only for points. Once you get nominated you are primary applicant, and probably CIC will ask you to fill all those forms like doing old normal FSW application. At that point you can include all the members of your family.

But hey, that's just my thoughts. Best is to call CIC and verify fr ourselves. I will try to call them one of this days,
If someone else find reliable answare please share it here.

I have exactly the same doubt and seeing the conflicting (not saying they are wrong or right, just different views) answers from many people.

Is there a email id or any other means to contact CIC and get this cleared? I am waiting for just this point before I create my account on MyCIC. Basically, don't want to fill out wrongly.

In my case, if I add my Wife's points, I lose out ~50 odd points (owing to her low IELTS score and other stuffs). However, I want to apply for her Dependent PR at the same time as mine (Primary). So I want to know what should be done in this case when we are creating our profile?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

 

[susana]

Express Entry has a Comprehensive Ranking System designed to score the applicants based in diferent factors, if your spouse/common law partner will be accompanying to Canada as part of your apllication, you need to declare it, there are higher points for single applicants, seems unfair, but these are the instructions by the minister, the Spouse or common-law partner factors such as their language skills and education – these are known to result in better economic success for both the spouse or common-law partner and the candidate. Kids don't make a difference/impact in your score , so they are not included in the first stage of your application but will be included in the second.
If you declare that your wife is not going to be included in your apllication JUST for the points, then you are giving wrong information for the ranking system, you can get an ITA but won't be allowed to bring your wife as she is not being considered as an accompanying family member in your CRS.
There is a reason why applicants are ranked different if single or married, so it is your choice to believe me or not, but It is a FACT that if you are married, and if your wife will be declared as your dependant, you MUST be ranked as a married applicant and not single. Your application, your choice .

 

[scylla]

Include your wife since the beginnig , the ban for misrepresentation is five years, as points are different for single and married applicants.
If you are invited to apply and include your wife as dependant with your application , you can be rejected for misrepresentation.

Agreed. The ONLY choice is to include your wife from the beginning. Anything else is misrepresentation which can result in a refusal of your application and a five year ban from Canada. If you somehow get your entire application processed as single and become a PR - then you can NEVER sponsor your wife to Canada (because you failed to declare her) and you may also end up losing your PR status due to this misrepresentation. Again, the ONLY choice is to include your wife from the beginning and state that you are married. This has ALWAYS been the rule for ALL immigration programs. You must include your spouse in the application and must declare that you are married.

 

[Alina.Taranenko]

Please tell me can wife apply for EE and her husband apply for EE separately but including each other in their application?

 

[susana]

Please tell me can wife apply for EE and her husband apply for EE separately but including each other in their application?

Yes , you can create both profiles as long as you both qualify.