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A girl

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If you didn't do all of the traditional ceremonies, it may be refused.
what why ? is it that extremely important ?!

despite All the evidence Two different countries Different people, places and dates they might say no just because the wedding wasnt 100% pakistani!
why it's so extrme! is there is reason for it ? i dont get it
 

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what why ? is it that extremely important ?!

despite All the evidence Two different countries Different people, places and dates they might say no just because the wedding wasnt 100% pakistani!
why it's so extrme! is there is reason for it ? i dont get it
When people are from countries/cultures/religions where marriages follow certain traditions, marriages outside of that norm are viewed as higher risk to be Marriages of Convenience. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are 2 such countries.
 

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You also keep on saying you spent lots of time together but you got engaged on your first in person visit and got married during the next visit. That wouldn’t be considered a lot of time. Are you cousins? If not a basic genetic panel likely screened for with the common genetic disorders or screened for the most common genetic disorders found in cousin-cousin marriages in Pakistan. These tests are usually quite expensive and usually take at least a few weeks to get result but often longer. Still confused as to whether this was basic blood tests or genetic testing.

is your husband’s family from Pakistan as well? Why was his family not at the wedding? It is unusual for at least parents not to attend the wedding of their child. These are the types of questions you will face along with concerns that you did not have the traditional ceremonies that are expected in Pakistani weddings. In cases where there is little in person relationship or arranged marriages there will be a lot of scrutiny of the actual wedding and time spent together.
 
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When people are from countries/cultures/religions where marriages follow certain traditions, marriages outside of that norm are viewed as higher risk to be Marriages of Convenience. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are 2 such countries.
I know you have posted this in a few places and while i agree in her situation what you are saying is possibly correct as she was in Pakistan, has pakistani passport etc, it can still be explained if you chose not to have a religious ceremony or traditional wedding.

Such as in my case we are from different sects and im born and raised in a canadian culture and he grew up in spain so even though our background is pakistani does not mean we have to have traditional wedding. So far our application is fine, but we also gave a lot of proof. Lots of texts over 4 years, pictures of us traveling together, receipts of us staying together before marriage, social media posts, wedding photos, reasons in detail about parents refusal to wedding and more. So the more honest you are, yes the better. But in your case you married very fast, you didnt follow customs of pakistan as you got married in Pak and are born there. Saudi also is traditional. At this point you just have to wait and see.
 
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I know you have posted this in a few places and while i agree in her situation what you are saying is possibly correct as she was in Pakistan, has pakistani passport etc, it can still be explained if you chose not to have a religious ceremony or traditional wedding.

Such as in my case we are from different sects and im born and raised in a canadian culture and he grew up in spain so even though our background is pakistani does not mean we have to have traditional wedding. So far our application is fine, but we also gave a lot of proof. Lots of texts over 4 years, pictures of us traveling together, receipts of us staying together before marriage, social media posts, wedding photos, reasons in detail about parents refusal to wedding and more. So the more honest you are, yes the better. But in your case you married very fast, you didnt follow customs of pakistan as you got married in Pak and are born there. Saudi also is traditional. At this point you just have to wait and see.
You also had a much more extensive dating history before marriage including proof of travelling together before marriage. Without an extensive dating history the ceremony becomes more important.
 
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You also had a much more extensive dating history before marriage including proof of travelling together before marriage. Without an extensive dating history the ceremony becomes more important.
Yes that is true.

what why ? is it that extremely important ?!

despite All the evidence Two different countries Different people, places and dates they might say no just because the wedding wasnt 100% pakistani!
why it's so extrme! is there is reason for it ? i dont get it
To be engaged, married in very short amount of time, creates red flags. Its not uncommon to have arranged marriages in Pakistani culture, and weddings are done fast too, but to have no traditional wedding in an arragned marriage, thats a bit strange. Also if you aren't living together after the nikah, or you haven't had rukhsti, a lot of people don't consider that a marriage in Pak and thats what IRCC is going off of. Why wasn't his family able to fly to Pakistan for wedding? Why did you get engaged on the first meeting? Was it arranged? These are questions that should have been answered in your forms because you can't depend on them giving you a chance to explain yourself. They can refuse without interview if they think its a marriage of convenience
 

A girl

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When people are from countries/cultures/religions where marriages follow certain traditions, marriages outside of that norm are viewed as higher risk to be Marriages of Convenience. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are 2 such countries.
he is an arab not saudi or pakistani he is from Syria we are not even family we met online his aunt she visited us before he visted us but because i am a musilm we cant spend time alone .. so we got The family's approval of the engagement and we sped few weeks toghter before he go back we kept it online for 7 months till the weeding
 

A girl

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You also keep on saying you spent lots of time together but you got engaged on your first in person visit and got married during the next visit. That wouldn’t be considered a lot of time. Are you cousins? If not a basic genetic panel likely screened for with the common genetic disorders or screened for the most common genetic disorders found in cousin-cousin marriages in Pakistan. These tests are usually quite expensive and usually take at least a few weeks to get result but often longer. Still confused as to whether this was basic blood tests or genetic testing.

is your husband’s family from Pakistan as well? Why was his family not at the wedding? It is unusual for at least parents not to attend the wedding of their child. These are the types of questions you will face along with concerns that you did not have the traditional ceremonies that are expected in Pakistani weddings. In cases where there is little in person relationship or arranged marriages there will be a lot of scrutiny of the actual wedding and time spent together.
he has big family of 7 they were studying working in canada while we went down to pakistan to get our nikkah done the first time his mom was there with us she came down with him but wasnt able to come to pakistan we gave them the reason why he couldn't marry me in saudi arabia becuse of the law u cant do papars work on umrah visa and saudi gov didn't accept famliy visa applied by his aunt here
 

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Just so I understand, how many days in total have you actually spent with your husband physically in person?

If you get to the interview stage they will be asking a lot of questions, which would likely include determining what you know about your husband and how well you actually know him. If you cannot confidently answer questions about him, that will also raise a flag.
 

A girl

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Just so I understand, how many days in total have you actually spent with your husband physically in person?

If you get to the interview stage they will be asking a lot of questions, which would likely include determining what you know about your husband and how well you actually know him. If you cannot confidently answer questions about him, that will also raise a flag.
over than 40 days in saudi arabia + pakistan
I know him very well what he study work datebirth etc
 

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over than 40 days in saudi arabia + pakistan
I know him very well what he study work datebirth etc
That’s great, but those are facts anybody can memorize from their own application. For example, I could tell them exactly what my husband’s favourite movie is, favourite video game, colour, that his favourite flavour of yogurt is raspberry, what position he sleeps in most often during the night, and that he despises mushrooms and refuses to touch them. Now, I’m not saying they’ll ask exactly that. The point I’m trying to make is that they could ask me anything about my husband and I could confidently answer any question without hesitation. That’s important.
 

A girl

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That’s great, but those are facts anybody can memorize from their own application. For example, I could tell them exactly what my husband’s favourite movie is, favourite video game, colour, that his favourite flavour of yogurt is raspberry, what position he sleeps in most often during the night, and that he despises mushrooms and refuses to touch them. Now, I’m not saying they’ll ask exactly that. The point I’m trying to make is that they could ask me anything about my husband and I could confidently answer any question without hesitation. That’s important.
oh ok now i got u girl and believe i know alots more than that like whats he loves and what makes him angery what food he loves and how he sleep and how he play with his neices and newphows .. his hard time growing up etc a lots more
 

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over than 40 days in saudi arabia + pakistan
I know him very well what he study work datebirth etc
Now that you clarified you spent 40 days together in KSA with other people not together. I know this is common with various most conservative families of all religions but it does mean less time alone getting to know each other. In all aspects this is very much like an arranged marriage but your ceremony isn’t which is why this may be very puzzling and may raise concerns. Although he may have a large family it is extremely unusual for just his parents not to try to go to the wedding. I suspect there is a good chance that an interview may be requested. To solidify your application you should try and meet at least one more time. Would warn you that there is no guarantee your application will take 1 year and many provinces have up to 3 month wait time to access healthcare so getting pregnant may mean you will be separated until after the birth or else you could need to pay for prenatal care and/or delivery (10-15k).
 

A girl

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Now that you clarified you spent 40 days together in KSA with other people not together. I know this is common with various most conservative families of all religions but it does mean less time alone getting to know each other. In all aspects this is very much like an arranged marriage but your ceremony isn’t which is why this may be very puzzling and may raise concerns. Although he may have a large family it is extremely unusual for just his parents not to try to go to the wedding. I suspect there is a good chance that an interview may be requested. To solidify your application you should try and meet at least one more time. Would warn you that there is no guarantee your application will take 1 year and many provinces have up to 3 month wait time to access healthcare so getting pregnant may mean you will be separated until after the birth or else you could need to pay for prenatal care and/or delivery (10-15k).
Now that you clarified you spent 40 days together in KSA with other people not together. I know this is common with various most conservative families of all religions but it does mean less time alone getting to know each other. In all aspects this is very much like an arranged marriage but your ceremony isn’t which is why this may be very puzzling and may raise concerns. Although he may have a large family it is extremely unusual for just his parents not to try to go to the wedding. I suspect there is a good chance that an interview may be requested. To solidify your application you should try and meet at least one more time. Would warn you that there is no guarantee your application will take 1 year and many provinces have up to 3 month wait time to access healthcare so getting pregnant may mean you will be separated until after the birth or else you could need to pay for prenatal care and/or delivery (10-15k).
i did expline in the app that my family are not like most of pakistanis they are much opend about the idea of marrying wether it's in the family or out they approved the Relationship they were open enough to travel with me for the frist time i mean my sis and my brother in law becuase my mom she dead and my dad he is 89 years
our familes involed with both of us alots we spend alots of times outing and meeting and we have proof on that as well about being pregnant no not at all he is still studying and nah we dont think of at all
we are looking into coming down to saudi arabia one more time but in summer once he is done uni
 

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i did expline in the app that my family are not like most of pakistanis they are much opend about the idea of marrying wether it's in the family or out they approved the Relationship they were open enough to travel with me for the frist time i mean my sis and my brother in law becuase my mom she dead and my dad he is 89 years
our familes involed with both of us alots we spend alots of times outing and meeting and we have proof on that as well about being pregnant no not at all he is still studying and nah we dont think of at all
we are looking into coming down to saudi arabia one more time but in summer once he is done uni
Although just marrying a non-cousin may seem like very progressive your situation would still be considered very conservative and much like an arranged marriage where the couple gets married during their first in person meeting period and remains chaperoned until after marriage. That is why the various religious ceremonies are expected and it also unusually that it is a very small wedding with none of his family or friends. If he is a students he’ll also need to show that he can support the both of you with government help. If you both don’t have jobs or savings his family can agree to support you financially if they have the extra funds to show in their financial documents.