Spouse and parent sponsorship from UK

[KJCPP01]

Hi I was hoping someone would be able to help.
We are looking to move to Nova Scotia, Canada this year. I am a Canadian citizen by decent. My husband of 9 years is a British citizen and UK trained nurse. My mother in law is also hoping to move with us, she is 50 with no skills. We also have a 2 year old daughter
My questions are:
If I sponsored my husband and daughter through the family sponsor scheme would this, then prevent me sponsoring my mother in law when we get there? (as I understand I can’t apply for parent sponsorship until I live in Canada).
Do I have to submit the sponsorship for my daughter at the same time as my husbands? And how does she then get citizenship (this bit really confused me as she is my dependant therefore can come anyway??)
Would it be easier/ cause less problems to use Express Entry for my husband as he is a nurse or is family sponsorship the way forward?
Has anyone sponsored a parent (in law) into Canada? I understand the wait is 5 years currently but is there any way around this/ to accelerate the process so that she can still work rather than on a parent visa?
Any help/ guidance is appreciated. We were using an immigration specialist to help but unfortunately they went bankrupt and took all our £2000 fee without any help last year so we are trying to do it all ourselves

 

[scylla]

Sponsor your husband through Family Class. This will be simplest and fastest - and you can start while still in the UK. Your daughter will be included in your husband's application as a dependent (I'm assuming she is not a citizen as the second generation born abroad).

To sponsor your mother in law, you must be living in Canada and have met the low income cut off for three years in a row from Canadian sources. Plainly said, you need to move to Canada, get a job in Canada with an income that meets the low income cut off and then work in that job for three years before you will qualify to sponsor. Assume it will be a minimum of four years from the time you return to Canada before you will qualify (you need to provide Canadian tax returns to prove you qualify). Add another 4+ years for the application to be processed. There is no way to accelerate this specific process.

If your mother in law wishes to move to Canada sooner and be able to work, then she will need to look into either getting a full time job offer from a Canadian employer + approved LMIA in order to qualify for a closed work permit - OR apply on her own to immigrate through one of Canada's economic immigration programs.

Your mother can apply for a super visa once you are in Canada and working in a job that meets the low income cut off. However this only allows her to visit Canada for long periods of time (not permanently live here or work).

 

[KJCPP01]

Thank you.
I missed the fact that I needed to meet in the income (in Canada!) that puts a bit of a spanner in the works. Might have to retrain my mother in law into something : as hubby wont move without her
That also solves the which route should I use problem.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Thank you.
I missed the fact that I needed to meet in the income (in Canada!) that puts a bit of a spanner in the works. Might have to retrain my mother in law into something : as hubby wont move without her
That also solves the which route should I use problem.

1. Note that even after you meet the LICO parental sponsorship is a minimum of 4 years to process. So about 8 years before she would arrive as an Immigrant.

 

[Ponga]

How can the OP sponsor her mother-in-law?

Doesn't she have to sponsor her husband and then he sponsor's his mother, with the OP as a co-signer?

 

[scylla]

Thank you.
I missed the fact that I needed to meet in the income (in Canada!) that puts a bit of a spanner in the works. Might have to retrain my mother in law into something : as hubby wont move without her
That also solves the which route should I use problem.

Before your mother in law learns any new skills, I'd recommend you have a read through the economic immigration programs to see what would be required for her to qualify to immigrate on her own. I'll be honest, because of her age, you should expect it will be very difficult (many of the systems are points based and she will lose points due to her age). For the temporary work permit option, the trick is finding an employer willing to go through the process of hiring a foreign worker (this tends to be very difficult to do). The LMIA process the employer must go through costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time - and requires them to prove that no Canadian could be found for the role. Even then, there's no guarantee the LMIA will be approved. If your husband will not move without his mother moving with him - coming to Canada may not be a realistic option for you. I'd research the options thoroughly to understand what you're up against. Good luck.

 

[KJCPP01]

Thank you. Again

8years is a long time we thought 4 years was going to be difficult. There will be some long discussions in our house tonight. Cant believe we got this far without seeing the fact that the finances have to be in Canada (or that the immigration consultant didn't mention this as a HUGE problem grrr theres clearly a reason he went bankrupt)

Ive looked and is there a upper age limit to the skilled worker scheme? All I can find is 47 and over scores 0 points. Shes basically unskilled currently so would have to retrain for this option but as said above it may not even help as due to her age may be a problem

 

[scylla]

Thank you. Again

8years is a long time we thought 4 years was going to be difficult. There will be some long discussions in our house tonight. Cant believe we got this far without seeing the fact that the finances have to be in Canada (or that the immigration consultant didn't mention this as a HUGE problem grrr theres clearly a reason he went bankrupt)

Ive looked and is there a upper age limit to the skilled worker scheme? All I can find is 47 and over scores 0 points. Shes basically unskilled currently so would have to retrain for this option but as said above it may not even help as due to her age may be a problem

I don't believe there is an age limit for most programs. However the fact she will score no points for her age is going to put her at a huge disadvantage. The fact she is unskilled will be an even bigger barrier. Pretty much all of the programs I can think of require at least one year of full time skilled work experience or skilled trade experience (e.g. welder, electrician) just to be considered as a candidate for the program (and that doesn't mean you'll have enough points to actually be selected for PR - that's just to get you in the door). Some programs also require you to have a full time job offer in Canada in a skilled position. Anyway - to provide you with one points example, she would need to have north of 450 points to be selected for PR under the Federal Skilled Worker / Express Entry program. My guess is that she's somewhere in the 300's.

 

[KJCPP01]

Sorry if this should be in a different section as realise my original post was on sponsorship but......

If we can work out a way to support mother in law (as I believe she cant work on a super visa) can we get her over on a super visa?
Can this then be extended after 2 years or do you have to reapply? Is there a limit to extension or time periods of extension?
can you apply to sponsor a parent whilst they are living in Canada on a super visa??

 

[scylla]

Sorry if this should be in a different section as realise my original post was on sponsorship but......

If we can work out a way to support mother in law (as I believe she cant work on a super visa) can we get her over on a super visa?
Can this then be extended after 2 years or do you have to reapply? Is there a limit to extension or time periods of extension?
can you apply to sponsor a parent whilst they are living in Canada on a super visa??

Correct - she cannot work on a super visa so you would need to support her fully. She also will not have access to provincial health care. So you wil have to purchase insurance to cover emergencies (a condition of getting the super visa) and then pay for all non emergency medical expenses out of your own pocket. Yes - you can sponsor her on a super visa once you have established yourselves in Canada and make enough income to meet the low income cut off. Note that YOU cannot sponsor your mother in law under a super visa - only your husband can. So he will have to get Canadian PR before you will be able to submit the super visa application.

Yes - you can apply for PR while she is in Canada on a super visa. There is technically no limit to the number of times a super visa can be extended - however it's up to CIC how many extensions are approved if any. Realistically she probably won't be able to spend 8-10 years in Canada straight while waiting for PR. The super visa is still a tourist visa and does not allow someone to move to Canada permanently.

 

[Ponga]

Sorry, but I still don't understand how the OP can even sponsor her mother-in-law.

Please enlighten me.

 

[canadausa#11]

Yes there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding here. She will have to first sponsor her husband, once that is done and all the time has elapsed he (the husband) will sponsor his mother. She won't be doing any sponsoring of her.

 

[scylla]

Sorry, but I still don't understand how the OP can even sponsor her mother-in-law.

Please enlighten me.

She can't. As mentioned in my post directly above, her husband has to become a PR first - then he can apply to bring his mother over on a super visa. She cannot sponsor her mother-in-law.

 

[Ponga]

But all of the earlier posts were eluding to her being the sponsor.