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Spousal sponsorship

CanadianJeepGuy

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Jun 24, 2012
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Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
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May 06 2013
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May 27 2013
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June 15th 2013
If you included your marriage certificate the travel documents are moot at this point. Looks like they are going through her background check.
 

keesio

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May 16, 2012
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Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-01-2013
Doc's Request.
09-07-2013
AOR Received.
30-01-2013
File Transfer...
11-02-2013
Med's Done....
02-01-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
12-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-08-2013
LANDED..........
14-10-2013
General question - for things like PPR and other additional requests for information regarding stage 2, to whom does the e-mail go to? Would it be the person being sponsored? Up until now, I (the sponsor) received the e-mails (receipt of application, sponsorship approval, etc). But this was for stage 1. Once sent to the appropriate visa office, will subsequent e-mails be sent to the person being sponsored?
 

CanadianJeepGuy

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Jun 24, 2012
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Winnipeg, Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
N/A
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-05-2012; "In Process" 26-04-2013
Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
May 06 2013
VISA ISSUED...
May 27 2013
LANDED..........
June 15th 2013
keesio said:
General question - for things like PPR and other additional requests for information regarding stage 2, to whom does the e-mail go to? Would it be the person being sponsored? Up until now, I (the sponsor) received the e-mails (receipt of application, sponsorship approval, etc). But this was for stage 1. Once sent to the appropriate visa office, will subsequent e-mails be sent to the person being sponsored?
The PR gets all the correspondence concerning the stage 2 process. Because I complained so much I was copied in.
 

goodman36

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CanadianJeepGuy said:
If you included your marriage certificate the travel documents are moot at this point. Looks like they are going through her background check.
Yes, we did include the marriage certificate along with pictures.

Even though I took a representative, he was no help at all. Looking back, i just wonder why I didn't include the plane ticket.

Anyway, I guess may be if I send just this now, that may raise other question after all it's been 8 months since the file is with visa office.

Thanks.
 

computergeek

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Jan 31, 2012
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App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
AOR Received.
21-06-2012
File Transfer...
21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
CanadianJeepGuy said:
The PR gets all the correspondence concerning the stage 2 process. Because I complained so much I was copied in.
In our case, the sponsor received "all the e-mail" - which consisted of a single e-mail (the PPR). I never received anything in e-mail from the visa office (CPP-O, where the application was processed or LA where the COPR was generated) as the applicant.
 

canadacolombo

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Mar 29, 2013
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Hi,

I am worried about misrepresentation.

I am a Canadian citizen and my Colombian girlfriend of more than 4 years has applied for a TRV and if approved, we plan to land in Canada and apply for inland sponsorship. When she applied we were not in a common-law relationship, but when she lands in Canada she will be in a common-law relationship because we will complete 12 months of living together in Colombia.

So my questions are:

1) Should she state to the border officer if/when she lands in Canada that her status has changed from single to common-law? Will this increase the chances of her being refused to enter Canada on a TRV?

2) I have read that it's not misrepresentation if your plans alter, such as you travel to Canada and then plan to get married and apply for inland sponsorship. Is that really true? And what about all the proof she provided in her TRV application that she would be returning to Colombia? Is that considered misrepresentation?

Thanks.
 

computergeek

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Jan 31, 2012
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Vancouver BC
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Visa Office......
CPP-O/LA
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
AOR Received.
21-06-2012
File Transfer...
21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
canadacolombo said:
1) Should she state to the border officer if/when she lands in Canada that her status has changed from single to common-law? Will this increase the chances of her being refused to enter Canada on a TRV?
She didn't lie on the original application. Does a TRV carry with it an ongoing obligation to update the visa office of status changes? I've certainly never seen anything to indicate this is the case for TRVs (but I have seen it for PR cases).

This doesn't seem like misrepresentation to me - she didn't lie.

canadacolombo said:
2) I have read that it's not misrepresentation if your plans alter, such as you travel to Canada and then plan to get married and apply for inland sponsorship. Is that really true? And what about all the proof she provided in her TRV application that she would be returning to Colombia? Is that considered misrepresentation?
Again, you can't be guilty of misrepresentation because the circumstances changed AFTER you signed a sworn statement.

CIC doesn't go after very obvious cases of fraud, I've never heard of them going after someone due to a subtle issue like "change of status after application submission".

If you are really concerned, my advice is to contact an experienced immigration attorney. I suspect that she or he will ask if you're crazy and tell her to come to Canada on her TRV. So many non-visa-exempt spouse/partners are forced to stay outside Canada until the application is done - they'd kill to be in your partner's position.
 

canadacolombo

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Mar 29, 2013
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Thanks computergeek.

It's true that she never lied, but in all the paperwork submitted for a TRV she proved that she would return to Colombia, as that is the first requirement for a TRV, but all those documents were real, and really a back-up plan in case she would return to Colombia.

I'm not sure either if it's a requirement for a TRV to demonstrate any change of status or plans.

Obviously there's no guarantee in her getting this TRV, but in case she does, I think it would be crazy of her/us to not remain in Canada and apply for inland sponsorship, as that remains the only way for us to remain together inside Canada and go forward with our lives inside Canada, which is what we both want to do anyway.
 

computergeek

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Jan 31, 2012
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Vancouver BC
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O/LA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
AOR Received.
21-06-2012
File Transfer...
21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
canadacolombo said:
Thanks computergeek.

It's true that she never lied, but in all the paperwork submitted for a TRV she proved that she would return to Colombia, as that is the first requirement for a TRV, but all those documents were real, and really a back-up plan in case she would return to Colombia.

I'm not sure either if it's a requirement for a TRV to demonstrate any change of status or plans.

Obviously there's no guarantee in her getting this TRV, but in case she does, I think it would be crazy of her/us to not remain in Canada and apply for inland sponsorship, as that remains the only way for us to remain together inside Canada and go forward with our lives inside Canada, which is what we both want to do anyway.
It is true that plans change. So she is coming to Canada with you to see if she likes it. If she does, she is free to stay in Canada and apply for permanent residency as your common-law partner. That's allowed under the law. If she doesn't like it, or you decide not to sponsor her, then she has a complete plan to return.
 

canadacolombo

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Mar 29, 2013
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Right, thanks for the reassurance computergeek.

Also, if you'd be so kind, what documents should she have legalized and translated to bring with her to Canada in case I apply to sponsor her?
I know of the birth certificate and university studies. I understand the police certificate would have to be requested later, correct? And the same with the medical exams, which can be done inside Canada anyway. Is there anything else?
Obviously we would be taking with us proof of our legitimate relationship, but do all these documents need to be translated into English and legalized somehow? I'm talking about bills and bank statements for example. A rental agreement perhaps should be translated right?
 

keesio

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May 16, 2012
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Toronto, Ontario
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Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-01-2013
Doc's Request.
09-07-2013
AOR Received.
30-01-2013
File Transfer...
11-02-2013
Med's Done....
02-01-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
12-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-08-2013
LANDED..........
14-10-2013
CanadianJeepGuy said:
The PR gets all the correspondence concerning the stage 2 process. Because I complained so much I was copied in.
Thanks. And I suppose the COPR will get mailed to her address, not mine... correct?
 

CanadianJeepGuy

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Jun 24, 2012
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Winnipeg, Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
N/A
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-05-2012; "In Process" 26-04-2013
Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
May 06 2013
VISA ISSUED...
May 27 2013
LANDED..........
June 15th 2013
keesio said:
Thanks. And I suppose the COPR will get mailed to her address, not mine... correct?
Correct. The PR will get their passport and COPR and whatever they return from your application.
 

keesio

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May 16, 2012
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Toronto, Ontario
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Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-01-2013
Doc's Request.
09-07-2013
AOR Received.
30-01-2013
File Transfer...
11-02-2013
Med's Done....
02-01-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
12-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-08-2013
LANDED..........
14-10-2013
CanadianJeepGuy said:
Correct. The PR will get their passport and COPR and whatever they return from your application.
Is it a big deal if I can change her mailing address to mine in Canada? She'll be visiting me up here for awhile and if we are lucky, her COPR and etc may be ready while she is here. On eCAS I only see my address listed so not sure how I can change her mailing address. Also doe sit raise an eyebrow to CIC if I request to change it?
 

CanadianJeepGuy

Champion Member
Jun 24, 2012
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99
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
N/A
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-05-2012; "In Process" 26-04-2013
Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
May 06 2013
VISA ISSUED...
May 27 2013
LANDED..........
June 15th 2013
keesio said:
Is it a big deal if I can change her mailing address to mine in Canada? She'll be visiting me up here for awhile and if we are lucky, her COPR and etc may be ready while she is here. On eCAS I only see my address listed so not sure how I can change her mailing address. Also doe sit raise an eyebrow to CIC if I request to change it?
Her address will change to yours after the "Decision Made" though her package will be sent to the mailing address she put in the application. I'm not exactly sure how that would work but since she is American I don't think it is that big a deal for her to change her mailing address.
Check with Computergeek. He/she knows the details better than anybody.