SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

[naveedali]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Having a child together is absolutely not a red flag. It makes the case stronger and more genuine obviously. The issue is that CIC has to scrutinize the application more because it is not a straight forward normal case and in order to wave the requirements of the 2 year conditional PR.

So in 2017 each and every case won't be straight forword. They are removing conditional PR.

 

[rashid27]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

So in 2017 each and every case won't be straight forword. They are removing conditional PR.

I know, it will probably slow them down a bit, in terms of processing times. Things are easy for them now because they can just slap on conditional PR.

 

[rashid27]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Cic clearly wrote on their website that having a lawyer doesn't make your case stronger and wouldnt make the process faster. Her lawyer wasn't actually a lawyer but a paralegal. She requested cic to remove him as her representative a month before getting additional proofs request.

Did I say anything about processing case faster? 2nd time you tried to put words in my mouth.

 

[naveedali]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

I know, it will probably slow them down a bit, in terms of processing times. Things are easy for them now because they can just slap on conditional PR.

If i was immigration minister i would keep conditional PR and make the process faster.

 

[naveedali]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Did I say anything about processing case faster? 2nd time you tried to put words in my mouth.

Off course u didn't but i added additional thingy for information. I'm not putting my words in your mouth.

 

[khi2TRNTO]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

HI everyone,
We applied on Nov 3,
AOR Nov 13
SA NOV18
got a request to upload my digital photo which i just did...

anyone else got request to upload a digital photo?

 

[hsp402]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Having a child together is absolutely not a red flag. It makes the case stronger and more genuine obviously. The issue is that CIC has to scrutinize the application more because it is not a straight forward normal case and in order to wave the requirements of the 2 year conditional PR.

Having a child provides a greater deal of confidence on genuineness of relationship and this significantly outweighs 2 year Conditional PR rule. So, if a CIC officer is evaluating a case with children then most likely the officer will have no issues with this two year waving rule. The reason why few cases with children still need to go through interview or further proofs of relationship is continuation of good relationship. Example of this is: I have seen couple of my friends in Canada who didnt visit Pakistan for around 2 years, despite they have children. Both of them received proofs letter, one leading to interview and other was lucky. They were specifically asked by CIC to provide reason why they didnt visit Pakistan in last two years, despite children. My friends were upset and have lot of questions and complains, but whatever they say. Even for me this is big why why they didnt visit, just for extra dollars. This is just an example of issues, there are numerous issues.

 

[naveedali]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Having a child provides a greater deal of confidence on genuineness of relationship and this significantly outweighs 2 year Conditional PR rule. So, if a CIC officer is evaluating a case with children then most likely the officer will have no issues with this two year waving rule. The reason why few cases with children still need to go through interview or further proofs of relationship is continuation of good relationship. Example of this is: I have seen couple of my friends in Canada who didnt visit Pakistan for around 2 years, despite they have children. Both of them received proofs letter, one leading to interview and other was lucky. They were specifically asked by CIC to provide reason why they didnt visit Pakistan in last two years, despite children. My friends were upset and have lot of questions and complains, but whatever they say. Even for me this is big why why they didnt visit, just for extra dollars. This is just an example of issues, there are numerous issues.

Exactly this is the reason ranasb had to go through interview. He didn't meet his dayghter for 3 years. They took his interview last month and now he's waiting for DM.

 

[naveedali]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Thanks for that my friend.

I guess that's one of the reasons why I got such damn big doc request.

Ohh for how long u didn't meet? I met with my son for the first time when he was 5 months old but explained to cic while applying that they were supposed to visit me but doctor sugguested not to go to pakistan for few more months until the baby gets a little older and weather gets better.

 

[Malik1983]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

HI everyone,
We applied on Nov 3,
AOR Nov 13
SA NOV18
got a request to upload my digital photo which i just did...

anyone else got request to upload a digital photo?

yes, same case with me i applied Sept 30
AOR Oct 7
SA Oct 20
request for digital photo on Nov 8

 

[khan1001]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

ASA Khan sahib,

Very respectfully brother that is not normal, get worried.
When they question the genuineness of your relationship and quote the immigration act that is PFL, not a normal doc request.

The fact you have not done rukhsati and then informed them you had honeymoon and cohabited was major red flag. In normal rukhasati later cases, ie doing nikka first then rukhsati after applying, the couple do not go for honeymoon or cohabitate.

If you were doing rukhsati later you should not have told them you had honeymoon and given them hotel receipts. You should have consulted someone before filling out your app especially if you were not doing rukhsati. They want things explained in a certain way, following our cultural norms.

You need to consult a lawyer asap to help you put together this package and explain your situation the way CIC wants it explained.

Imho, normal straight forward cases don't need a lawyer, others do, including any cases where CIC has to wave the 2 year conditional permanent residency ie when there are children in common. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob480.asp

Very respectfully brother that is not normal, get worried.
Thanks, and yes i am worried a lot. I wish you could feel my heartbeat

When they question the genuineness of your relationship and quote the immigration act that is PFL, not a normal doc request.
Thanks for this info, i didn't know that.

The fact you have not done rukhsati and then informed them you had honeymoon and cohabited was major red flag. In normal rukhasati later cases, ie doing nikka first then rukhsati after applying, the couple do not go for honeymoon or cohabitate.
I understand this. But CIC can't tell us how we should do our marriages or how to live after marriage. I couldn't do rukhsati because my wife didn't want to do it that way (Live alone or go back home after Rukhsati). We were able to go for Honeymoon so we did. And we are going to go again in Christmas. I can't wait for the full process to complete and then i can meet my wife in person? According to Islam: She is my wife after Nikah and i can meet her is person. CIC should also consider that. And if CIC still wants Rikhsati detials then i have to resign from my work and go back, do Rukhsati, and live with her until she gets PR.

If you were doing rukhsati later you should not have told them you had honeymoon and given them hotel receipts. You should have consulted someone before filling out your app especially if you were not doing rukhsati. They want things explained in a certain way, following our cultural
norms.
I was just honest and told them everything we did. Not everyone follows the exact culture. I hope they understand this.

You need to consult a lawyer asap to help you put together this package and explain your situation the way CIC wants it explained.
I will do my best. Otherwise, it's not the end of the World :-X

Thanks for everyone's input. Still need more input from other members.

 

[rashid27]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Ohh for how long u didn't meet? I met with my son for the first time when he was 5 months old but explained to cic while applying that they were supposed to visit me but doctor suggested not to go to pakistan for few more months until the baby gets a little older and weather gets better.

Don't worry u should be fine, Insha Allah. You'll probably get normal doc request because there are always some issues with kids.
I went for the delivery of my daughter, Alhamdulillah. My issue was that I applied really late almost 2 years after marriage.

May Allah swt bless all the members with many wonderful children...ameen

 

[naveedali]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Don't worry u should be fine, Insha Allah. You'll probably get normal doc request because there are always some issues with kids.
I went for the delivery of my daughter, Alhamdulillah. My issue was that I applied really late almost 2 years after marriage.

May Allah swt bless all the members with many wonderful children...ameen

I applied late as well about 1 and half year. Ameen.

 

[AmyR]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

Dear member pls donot b disheartened by wat anyonr says. Make dua and consult others now. No need to worry or think about what happened in the past. Look forward since this is vital for ur success.

And remember that prayers change EVERYTHING! So dont loose hope cause that is not what u need to do now.
My duas are with u

Very respectfully brother that is not normal, get worried.
Thanks, and yes i am worried a lot. I wish you could feel my heartbeat

When they question the genuineness of your relationship and quote the immigration act that is PFL, not a normal doc request.
Thanks for this info, i didn't know that.

The fact you have not done rukhsati and then informed them you had honeymoon and cohabited was major red flag. In normal rukhasati later cases, ie doing nikka first then rukhsati after applying, the couple do not go for honeymoon or cohabitate.
I understand this. But CIC can't tell us how we should do our marriages or how to live after marriage. I couldn't do rukhsati because my wife didn't want to do it that way (Live alone or go back home after Rukhsati). We were able to go for Honeymoon so we did. And we are going to go again in Christmas. I can't wait for the full process to complete and then i can meet my wife in person? According to Islam: She is my wife after Nikah and i can meet her is person. CIC should also consider that. And if CIC still wants Rikhsati detials then i have to resign from my work and go back, do Rukhsati, and live with her until she gets PR.

If you were doing rukhsati later you should not have told them you had honeymoon and given them hotel receipts. You should have consulted someone before filling out your app especially if you were not doing rukhsati. They want things explained in a certain way, following our cultural
norms.
I was just honest and told them everything we did. Not everyone follows the exact culture. I hope they understand this.

You need to consult a lawyer asap to help you put together this package and explain your situation the way CIC wants it explained.
I will do my best. Otherwise, it's not the end of the World :-X

Thanks for everyone's input. Still need more input from other members.

 

[Malik1983]

Re: SPOUSAL Sponsorship PAKISTAN @ London Visa Office

I applied late as well about 1 and half year. Ameen.

Same thing with me i applied after 1 and half year of my marriage. Would that be a problem??
In this duration my son is born in Canada, i am PA in Pakistan.