Spousal Sponsorship - Outland application - Please help

[Canada429]

Perfectly straightforward and no particular issues. Probably the easiest and most straightforward for now. Obviously you'll have to deal with the provincial adoption process in Canada but no urgency.



You're overthinking. You do not need it. This is for cases when adopting children outside of the immediate family. It is not relevant to your case - particularly since you have not adopted yet.

You are not sponsoring your adopted child, you are sponsoring your spouse + dependents.

So lets say i adopt my step dayghter and complete the adoption paper and then i sponsor both of them i just need to use spousal sponsorship and include adoption paper.

If adoption is going to take longer then i can start the adoption process and use same Spousal Sponsorship application and inform IRCC in a small letter that the adoption is in process and update IRCC with adoption paper when it is done.

The adopted children application does not apply to me in any scenario whether the adoption is done or it is in process.

If i decide to adopt her in Canada then it is a completely different process.

 

[armoured]

So lets say i adopt my step dayghter and complete the adoption paper and then i sponsor both of them i just need to use spousal sponsorship and include adoption paper.

If adoption is going to take longer then i can start the adoption process and use same Spousal Sponsorship application and inform IRCC in a small letter that the adoption is in process and update IRCC with adoption paper when it is done.

The adopted children application does not apply to me in any scenario whether the adoption is done or it is in process.

If i decide to adopt her in Canada then it is a completely different process.

1) Easiest to start now, as step daughter. She is dependent of your spouse. Do the adoption later in Canada or start it now ,whatever.

2) If you adopt her during the process - advise IRCC. She is still dependent of your spouse.

3) If you adopt her first, finishing the adoption process -before starting the sponsorship process, she is still dependent of your spouse.

So in all cases:
You are sponsoring your spouse, and her dependent.

I literally cannot make this any more explicit.

 

[Canada429]

1) Easiest to start now, as step daughter. She is dependent of your spouse. Do the adoption later in Canada or start it now ,whatever.

2) If you adopt her during the process - advise IRCC. She is still dependent of your spouse.

3) If you adopt her first, finishing the adoption process -before starting the sponsorship process, she is still dependent of your spouse.

So in all cases:
You are sponsoring your spouse, and her dependent.

I literally cannot make this any more explicit.

Sorry to ask you so many questions. It is very confusing in case if remarriage. I appreciate your help. Thanks again !

 

[armoured]

Sorry to ask you so many questions. It is very confusing in case if remarriage. I appreciate your help. Thanks again !

Start filling out the forms, it will start to make more sense.

 

[Canada429]

Hello, i am finally finishing all the paper work with name change and i have come across something that i had missed before. As i have stated before this is my second marriage and my wife already have her own daughter and now she is my step daughter. i have adopted her through adoption deed (NOT THROUGH COURT ORDER as i did not find it was necessary). My wife and my step daughter name has been changed to my name and my last name now. Since i am from India i was selecting India to apply for my wife on sposoring wife official website, i came across the following.


India – Instruction(s) for documents

• Send photocopies unless instructed otherwise
• Identity documents for adopted child with Indian passport:If any child on your application was adopted through customary law and not through courts, you must provide an explanation and proof of the adoption, such as:
  • A copy of the original adoption deed;
  • Photographs of the adoption ceremony;
  • Power of attorney documents, if applicable;
  • Evidence of contact and financial support with adoptive parents;
  • Letter of no objection from the Central Adoption Resource Agency (CARA), Ministry of Women and Child Development, Government of India. The guidelines which outline CARA requirements can be found at: www.cara.nic.in
  • For international adoptions, the competent authority of the child's residence and province of intended destination must declare in writing that they approve of the adoption as conforming to the Hague Convention.

As i read above, it states that i need to provide all the above documents if i did not adopt through court order. I only have adoption deed for the above. Is it sufficient enough? i don't think i could get no objection from CARA. My case is simple enough as i am adopting my wif'es daughter and she is a biological mother.

Does the above adoption requirement apply to a child who is orphan?

Please advic enad help.

Thank You

 

[armoured]

I assume all of the above is targeted at cases where the child is not a natural born child of either parent.

I would submit with the evidence you have.

Mostly this echoes what I've written above - your adoption of her is (mostly) irrelevant for the sponsorship process. She is being sponsored as the dependent of the principal applicant, your spouse. Since she is the birth daughter of your spouse, there was no requirement for the adoption process. (By all means include the paperwork and you'll need to show the change of name as well, but I would assume the other info is not needed)

Recommend you include a letter of explanation that the other info requested is not available because eg Cara not involved, IE those procedures not applicable to your situation.

 

[Canada429]

I assume all of the above is targeted at cases where the child is not a natural born child of either parent.

I would submit with the evidence you have.

Mostly this echoes what I've written above - your adoption of her is (mostly) irrelevant for the sponsorship process. She is being sponsored as the dependent of the principal applicant, your spouse. Since she is the birth daughter of your spouse, there was no requirement for the adoption process. (By all means include the paperwork and you'll need to show the change of name as well, but I would assume the other info is not needed)

Recommend you include a letter of explanation that the other info requested is not available because eg Cara not involved, IE those procedures not applicable to your situation.

Thank you i will go ahead with an explanation letter and hopefully it gets accepted. i was just going through CARA and they do have registration procedure for Step parent. I will ignore this and go ahead with the explanation letter. Also, meanwhile i will see if i can get court order for adoption just in case if it is needed in the future. I mad an adoption deed and it was accepted by Indian Passport Authority and i was able to change my step daughter name to my name and surname. i assume the adoption deed is sufficient enough in case adoption by step parent.

Thanks aagin.

 

[armoured]

Thank you i will go ahead with an explanation letter and hopefully it gets accepted. i was just going through CARA and they do have registration procedure for Step parent. I will ignore this and go ahead with the explanation letter. Also, meanwhile i will see if i can get court order for adoption just in case if it is needed in the future. I mad an adoption deed and it was accepted by Indian Passport Authority and i was able to change my step daughter name to my name and surname. i assume the adoption deed is sufficient enough in case adoption by step parent.

Thanks aagin.

I do not know the Indian procedures and just going by common sense here that no adoption was needed at all.

You might want to proceed with the Cara registration - and keep in mind caveat that not a lawyer so your own responsibility.

 

[Canada429]

I assume all of the above is targeted at cases where the child is not a natural born child of either parent.

I would submit with the evidence you have.

Mostly this echoes what I've written above - your adoption of her is (mostly) irrelevant for the sponsorship process. She is being sponsored as the dependent of the principal applicant, your spouse. Since she is the birth daughter of your spouse, there was no requirement for the adoption process. (By all means include the paperwork and you'll need to show the change of name as well, but I would assume the other info is not needed)

Recommend you include a letter of explanation that the other info requested is not available because eg Cara not involved, IE those procedures not applicable to your situation.

One more question. My marriage certificate is completely in English. However, the stemp is in my native language. Do i need to get this translated to English? This same applies to PCC. The stemp in PCC is in Hindi not in English.

Please advice.

 

[armoured]

One more question. My marriage certificate is completely in English. However, the stemp is in my native language. Do i need to get this translated to English? This same applies to PCC. The stemp in PCC is in Hindi not in English.

Please advice.

Don't know, hope those with direct expérience will comment.

 

[Canada429]

for the form IMM1344e, i am sponsoring my wife and i do not have CO-signer, should i leave signature part for Co-signer blank or have my wife sign it . She is a spouse being sponsored. In the Complete Guide 5289 it states that any signature is blank, the form will be returned back.

Sorry asking so many questions

 

[armoured]

for the form IMM1344e, i am sponsoring my wife and i do not have CO-signer, should i leave signature part for Co-signer blank or have my wife sign it . She is a spouse being sponsored. In the Complete Guide 5289 it states that any signature is blank, the form will be returned back.

The form also says "co-signer, if applicable." Not applicable, therefore no need to sign there.

 

[Canada429]

The form also says "co-signer, if applicable." Not applicable, therefore no need to sign there.

Hello, currently filling out IMM5532 - Sponsorship Eveluation form. I am unemployed since past 1 year and before that i was on a medical leave for 1 year. Before, medical leave i was employed fully. I am providing my employment history for the past 5 years. Do i give them any info on my medical leave (i was receiving supporting payments for the whole year) OR do i just write unemployed straight for the past 2 years? No 2019 to Oct 2021. Please advice. i do not want to hide anything and provide as much as information i can.

 

[Canada429]

If anyone can help me with my previos question?

Going through the Document Checklist and i came across where it asks to provide important documents for you and your spouse showing that you are recognized as each other's spouse. I know this haecs been asked before in the forum, but no clear answer. In my case my wife has taken my name and the back of her passport my name is written as her husband and this is a fresh passport. Can i consider her passport as a recognized document? I don't work, so i don't have employment insurance documents. Please help.

 

[Canada429]

One silly question, in Sponsored person generic application form IMM0008 question 3 asks how many family members including you are in this application? I am sponsoring my wife and a step daughter, so this form is for my wife. Does she write 2 (for her and a daughter) or 3 including me? Please help.