sponsorship of parents and grandparents for Canadian Permanent Residence

[toronto27]

# 9 Total income available to sponsor

Indicate the amount of money that you have by adding in lines 16 h) and 19 h) found in Income Sources – Sponsor and Income Source - Co-signer.

Note: Complete this financial evaluation before entering your number. This is the amount of money that you and, if applicable, your co-signer have available to sponsor.

Since they ask for the income of the last 3 years in those boxes ... Do they wants the total for all 3 years or most recent year?

I used most recent year which is 2012 on my application for questions 8 and 9.

 

[paul1982]

HI

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE PARENTS SPONSORSHIP 2014.

WE ARE 2 IN CANADA ( ME AND MY SPOUSE). SHE WILL NOT BE CO-SIGNING THE APPLICATION BEACUSE SHE JUST ARRIVED THIS YEAR ON SPOUSE VISA.

THE LICO AMOUNT THAT I NEED TO PUT FOR 3 FAMILY MEMBERS IS : 45,040 ? CORRECT ?

ALSO IF IN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE NOA AMOUNT IS LESS THEN THE LICO AMOUNT, I AM NOT ELIGBILE TO APPLY ? KINDLY LET ME KNOW.

THANKS,
PAUL

 

[scorpion_ca]

Yes, you are not eligible for parent sponsorship at this moment. The NOA's amount must be equal or higher than LICO+30% for the last 3 tax years.

HI

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE PARENTS SPONSORSHIP 2014.

WE ARE 2 IN CANADA ( ME AND MY SPOUSE). SHE WILL NOT BE CO-SIGNING THE APPLICATION BEACUSE SHE JUST ARRIVED THIS YEAR ON SPOUSE VISA.

THE LICO AMOUNT THAT I NEED TO PUT FOR 3 FAMILY MEMBERS IS : 45,040 ? CORRECT ?

ALSO IF IN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE NOA AMOUNT IS LESS THEN THE LICO AMOUNT, I AM NOT ELIGBILE TO APPLY ? KINDLY LET ME KNOW.

THANKS,
PAUL

 

[screech339]

HI

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE PARENTS SPONSORSHIP 2014.

WE ARE 2 IN CANADA ( ME AND MY SPOUSE). SHE WILL NOT BE CO-SIGNING THE APPLICATION BEACUSE SHE JUST ARRIVED THIS YEAR ON SPOUSE VISA.

THE LICO AMOUNT THAT I NEED TO PUT FOR 3 FAMILY MEMBERS IS : 45,040 ? CORRECT ?

ALSO IF IN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE NOA AMOUNT IS LESS THEN THE LICO AMOUNT, I AM NOT ELIGBILE TO APPLY ? KINDLY LET ME KNOW.

THANKS,
PAUL

If I understood correctly about LICO amount, if your income is less than the LICO requirement at any given year, you can only qualify 3 years, assuming meeting annual 3 year LICO, after the year you cannot met the LICO requirement. You must also maintain the LICO requirement during the entire PR process as well until the parents become PRs. In other words, You cannot just qualify at the 3 year mark and then not meet the LICO after you submit the application.

Screech339

 

[nina.roy]

Thanks again Gentlemen. Will have to do a long, hard re-think on what decision to take.

My only concern at this point is when will I find out about the refusal. If it is a long time, like 42 months+, then that means that I will not be able to reapply in 2015 while this application is still in progress, and when I finally find out I've been refused sometime in 2017 or 2018, I would have lost 4 years and will have to start from square 1 anyway.

I've been waiting to sponsor my mom and brother since 2009. Due to personal circumstances, I was only eligible to apply in Jan 2012, but CIC froze the program from Nov 2011. In the past 2-3 years, my brother passed the eligible age limit of 22 so I'm unable to sponsor him anymore. I was hopeful that I would be able to sponsor my mom at least since even though the rules were tightened, I was meeting the new income requirements. But the new guidelines released on Dec 31st asking for 2010 income have once again crushed my dreams.

The Supervisa is a poor alternative to PGP. It is costly and provides little healthcare coverage as the plans have a maximum coverage limit of only $200k or so. What happens in the case of a serious illness such as cancer etc? In addition the fact that one's on a "visa" means that one will always perceive oneself as being an outsider, being allowed a slightly longer peek into Canada than usual, but still feeling apart from the rest of society.

I had been running pillar to post since Oct of this year to get the police clearance certificates and other documents and had filled out all the forms in November itself. If I'd known that this new requirement would suddenly emerge on Dec 31st, I wouldn't have gone through all the trouble.

Oh well, I tried my best. Maybe I should still send the application in and hope for a stroke of luck. Or maybe not, if I want to reapply in 2015 rather than in 2018 after getting a refusal. Not sure what to do right now. :'(

Stay positive my friend, I too am in the same boat as you. I was eligible to apply for parents sponsorship based on 2011 income, but they froze the program then. Now when they re-opened it, they introduced a 3 year financial proof clause, which I meet only for 2011, 2012 and 2013, not for 2010. I took a chance and submitted the application anyway, lets see what they do with my application.

CIC will be counting only complete applications towards the 5000 cap, and I believe we will know about the cap being reached by the end of this month/Feb. So if my application is considered incomplete, I should expect it back within a month and we can try again in 2015.

What bothers me slightly about this new guide is that, say I waited till March/April 2014 to get my NOA (assuming the CAP was still not filled up by then), then they have not even bothered to provide us the Federal Minimum Income figures for 2013 for us to check if we are eligible to sponsor for yr 2013 or not.

In any case, lets hope for the best!

[size=20pt] Happy New Year Everyone! [/size]

 

[chelavnzuo]

Yes, you are not eligible for parent sponsorship at this moment. The NOA's amount must be equal or higher than LICO+30% for the last 3 tax years.

Which of the following statements is true?

A). my income for 2010,2011 and 2012 all have to be higher than the 2012 LICO+30%
or
B). my income for 2010,2011 and 2012 should be higher than the respective 2010 LICO+30%, 2011 LICO+30% and 2012 LICO+30%

TIA!

 

[screech339]

Which of the following statements is true?

A). my income for 2010,2011 and 2012 all have to be higher than the 2012 LICO+30%
or
B). my income for 2010,2011 and 2012 should be higher than the respective 2010 LICO+30%, 2011 LICO+30% and 2012 LICO+30%

TIA!

That is a good question. Would like clarification on that. But it may be that the 2012 LICO +30% be used for all 3 tax years to simplify paperwork.

Screech339

 

[amson]

Hi, it doesn't allow me to enter any number, numbers are suppose to come up automatically. It looks like that the link to #9 is not working. I am not able to contact CIC. There phones seems to be busy since 8 am.

 

[toronto27]

Which of the following statements is true?

A). my income for 2010,2011 and 2012 all have to be higher than the 2012 LICO+30%
or
B). my income for 2010,2011 and 2012 should be higher than the respective 2010 LICO+30%, 2011 LICO+30% and 2012 LICO+30%

TIA!

B is correct. Also you don't need to calculate these yourself as Canadian Immigration has already done it for you. Look at "Federal Income Table for Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship" on the link below. If 2012 LICO + 30% was true than they won't give you three different figures for three years. Because numbers are different for three years that means they are counting respective year's LICO + 30%.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5772ETOC.asp

 

[screech339]

B is the correct answer. Also you don't need to calculate these yourself as Canadian Immigration has already done it for you. Look at "Federal Income Table for Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship" on the link below. If 2012 LICO + 30% was true than they won't give you three different figures for three years. Because numbers are different for three years that means they are counting respective year's LICO + 30%.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5772ETOC.asp

Thanks for the clarification. It does list the minimum income requirement for each year based on number of sponsored people. Make it so much easier and straight forward.

Screech339

 

[amson]

Same issue. Link for #9 doesn't seems to be working.

 

[paul1982]

Same issue. Link for #9 doesn't seems to be working.

You have to print the form out and then write the Amount for 2012 tax year in #9

Hope it helps.

 

[toronto27]

Same issue. Link for #9 doesn't seems to be working.

Are you talking about Question 9 in IMM5768E? If so it's either a bug or CIC has intentionally designed the form so you need to fill it with pen after printing. Everyone had that problem so don't worry, after printing, just write the figure with black pen.

 

[ksandhu83]

as we need income for 2010,2011, 2012 but we were 4 members in 2010 and as my son was born in 2011, then we were 5 members in 2011. So do I have to meet 4 members conditions or 5 members conditions in 2010?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

1. Generic application form for canada - IMM0008ENU_2D.pdf. What should I do?

2. A poster here said 2 (mom and dad) instead of 5 (all my sisters)..but when I validated the form, it gave me an error stating the I should put in 5. Which is right?

3. Assuming the right answer in the form above is "5" - Do they need to fill out the form "Background Declaration - IMM5669E.pdf" for each of my sisters?

4. What is the difference between the printout and the required "Option C"?

5. Can I just submit his printout from the CRA website(assuming they accept it)? Unfortunately I cannot find my notice of assessment..

1. You only add your sisters if they are dependents. There are 3 types, as listed in Question 12 of the dependents section on IMM0008. If your sisters do not fit into those categories, then they are NOT dependents and are not included in IMM0008. Understand that when CIC says family members, they are referring to the principal applicant and that person's dependents.

2. This depends on above. If all of your sisters are dependents (which I highly doubt, especially the 31 year old), then the answer is 5. If 1 sister is a dependent, the answer is 3. If the 2 youngest are dependents, the answer is 4.

3. Again, depends on above. If they qualify as dependents and are included in the app, then yes, they need to fill it out.

4. I believe the Option C has more info. You must request it from CIC.

5. I would guess that as the actual sponsor, yours must be included as well but cannot say for sure.