sponsorship of parents and grandparents for Canadian Permanent Residence

[zardoz]

If they require the 2013 figures, they will request them later. The income can be reassessed at any time during the application process.

 

[tameez1985]

After reading IMM5768E.PDF it seems that you could have gone on EI and would still be eligible to sponsor unlike mentioned before in this thread. Thoughts?

 

[sunshinemrc]

After reading IMM5768E.PDF it seems that you could have gone on EI and would still be eligible to sponsor unlike mentioned before in this thread. Thoughts?

EI, is income reported on a T4A I believe. For example maternity benefits. EI does not disqualifies you, as long as the income from EI meets the LICO + 30%

 

[pgpvisa2014]

I am sure many of you are frantically completing these forms, as I am.

Regarding IMM 7566 "Financial Evaluation for Parents and Grandparents sponsorship"
Question 8 under "Financial Requirements" requires a value.
The instruction sheet on page 37, refers to "Federal Income Table for Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship."
Does anyone know here I can locate this said "Federal Income Table for Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship."?

 

[PMM]

Hi

EI, is income reported on a T4A I believe. For example maternity benefits. EI does not disqualifies you, as long as the income from EI meets the LICO + 30%

If you read the evaluation form, Income from EI is NOT counted towards the LICO, it must be subtracted from the NOA.

OP 561

The calculation of the sponsor’s total income will include the income of the co-signer, if applicable, and will be based on the amount recorded on the NOA or other document issued by the CRA (Option C print out) to the sponsor and to the co-signer, if applicable, less any amounts earned from the following sources:

any provincial allowance received by the sponsor for a program of instruction or training;
any social assistance received by the sponsor from a province;
any financial assistance received by the sponsor from the Government of Canada under a resettlement assistance program;
any amounts paid to the sponsor under the Employment Insurance Act, other than special benefits;
any monthly guaranteed income supplement paid to the sponsor under the Old Age Security Act; and
any Canada child tax benefit paid to the sponsor under the Income Tax Act.

 

[kittylona]

Correct - you need to supply 2010, 2011 and 2012 only. The LICO amounts required for each year can be found here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5772ETOC.asp

Friends,

This is still not clear. Please read this sentence very carefully which is stated in the paragraph "Federal Income Table for sponsors of parents and grandparents":
"The following table applies to residents of all provinces except Quebec. For each of the three consecutive taxation years preceding the date on which the application is submitted to CIC, the sponsor (and co-signer, if applicable) must meet the Minimum Necessary Income, which is based on the Low Income Cut-offs plus 30%."

Which means non of the applications are going to be received before Jan 2, 2014 - the earliest possible date of application.This means 2013 NOAs will have to be included.

 

[eurmione]

Dear freind members

I will stat by answering the questions

I fill up IMM 1344 from here
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

I payed 550$ for the application online here
https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/epay/orderSummary.do

When I called immigration QC I spoked to a lady and that what she told.
you don't need to prove 3 years of income, you need to satisfy QC requirement.
I asked her again and she said the same thing. she didn't mention one year period

My sister in law wants to sponsor her mother, she is QC resident for the last 6 years and has CSQ. I'm just trying to help, my advice was to take a lawyer.


So now I'm totally confuse. How does CIC except payment if the program is not yet open? I payed today with my visa.

Regards

Hey, you are right. It only requires 1 year of salary in Quebec.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Friends,

This is still not clear. Please read this sentence very carefully which is stated in the paragraph "Federal Income Table for sponsors of parents and grandparents":
"The following table applies to residents of all provinces except Quebec. For each of the three consecutive taxation years preceding the date on which the application is submitted to CIC, the sponsor (and co-signer, if applicable) must meet the Minimum Necessary Income, which is based on the Low Income Cut-offs plus 30%."

Which means non of the applications are going to be received before Jan 2, 2014 - the earliest possible date of application.This means 2013 NOAs will have to be included.

No, it doesn't read OP Bulletin http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob561.asp

They must submit a Notice of Assessment (NOA) or an equivalent document (Option C print out) issued by the CRA to substantiate the amount of their income and their co-signer’s income, if applicable, for each of the three consecutive years preceding the date of their application (for example, in January 2014, applicants must submit the NOA or Option C print out for 2012, 2011 and 2010 taxation years). No other proof of income will be accepted;

 

[scylla]

Friends,

This is still not clear. Please read this sentence very carefully which is stated in the paragraph "Federal Income Table for sponsors of parents and grandparents":
"The following table applies to residents of all provinces except Quebec. For each of the three consecutive taxation years preceding the date on which the application is submitted to CIC, the sponsor (and co-signer, if applicable) must meet the Minimum Necessary Income, which is based on the Low Income Cut-offs plus 30%."

Which means non of the applications are going to be received before Jan 2, 2014 - the earliest possible date of application.This means 2013 NOAs will have to be included.

You're over complicating things. If CIC expected you to include an NOA for 2013 then they would have provided a LICO amount for 2013. However they know that NOAs aren't available yet for 2013. So they are expecting you to submit NOAs for 2010, 2011 and 2012 - which is why they have provided a table with LICO amounts from 2010, 2011 and 2012 in the application guide.

 

[chang007]

Hi folks -- I have two questions.

1. the checklist mentions option C or NOA. Unlike the old guide, it omits the word "original". Is it OK to submit photocopy of NOA? If yes, would it help to get it notarized?

2. My parents do not have a marriage certificate, but I did get them to swear an affidavit that states that they are married? Would that suffice?

Thanks in advance.

 

[kittylona]

Hi


No, it doesn't read OP Bulletin http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob561.asp

They must submit a Notice of Assessment (NOA) or an equivalent document (Option C print out) issued by the CRA to substantiate the amount of their income and their co-signer's income, if applicable, for each of the three consecutive years preceding the date of their application (for example, in January 2014, applicants must submit the NOA or Option C print out for 2012, 2011 and 2010 taxation years). No other proof of income will be accepted;

Thanks for the clarification.Now I know.

 

[Rob_TO]

Hey, you are right. It only requires 1 year of salary in Quebec.

Here is the undertaking guide (updated Jan 2014) for Quebec. It looks like they did not separate the parents from other family sponsorship, so still only require 1 year of income and also do not require additional 30% on top of LICO.
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/publications/en/sponsorship/guide-sponsor.pdf

Seems very strange to me that it will be so much easier to sponsor parents from Quebec, and much more difficult and restrictive for every other province in Canada. Especially considering as soon as parent arrives they can move to any province they want.

 

[sunshinemrc]

Hi


If you read the evaluation form, Income from EI is NOT counted towards the LICO, it must be subtracted from the NOA.

OP 561

The calculation of the sponsor's total income will include the income of the co-signer, if applicable, and will be based on the amount recorded on the NOA or other document issued by the CRA (Option C print out) to the sponsor and to the co-signer, if applicable, less any amounts earned from the following sources:

any provincial allowance received by the sponsor for a program of instruction or training;
any social assistance received by the sponsor from a province;
any financial assistance received by the sponsor from the Government of Canada under a resettlement assistance program;
any amounts paid to the sponsor under the Employment Insurance Act, other than special benefits;
any monthly guaranteed income supplement paid to the sponsor under the Old Age Security Act; and
any Canada child tax benefit paid to the sponsor under the Income Tax Act.

Please note that Special Benefits under EI include maternity. Therefore someone on EI maternity or parental benefits can include income from such into their calculation.

Employment Insurance (EI) special benefits. There are five types of EI special benefits:

maternity benefits;
parental benefits;
sickness benefits;
compassionate care benefits; and
benefits for parents of critically ill children.

 

[zardoz]

Here is the undertaking guide (updated Jan 2014) for Quebec. It looks like they did not separate the parents from other family sponsorship, so still only require 1 year of income and also do not require additional 30% on top of LICO.
http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/publications/en/sponsorship/guide-sponsor.pdf

Seems very strange to me that it will be so much easier to sponsor parents from Quebec, and much more difficult and restrictive for every other province in Canada. Especially considering as soon as parent arrives they can move to any province they want.

Also, when I looked around an hour ago, it was still only a 10 years undertaking in Quebec.

 

[Arkansas2045]

Wondering if someone can confirm the following in regards to the calculation of family size:

According to the application package, we are to count "all dependent family members of that person (applicant), whether or not they are accompanying." My sister in law (17) and brother in law (23) will not accompany my father and mother in law. But I am still required to include them in the calculation of family size which puts our family size to 6. We don't meet the Minimum Necessary Income requirement for family of 6 but can easily meet for family of 4. My question is, has there been any known cases where CIC will accept/process an application based on the fact that sponsor can meet MNI requirement if you only include the parents but not if you include non-accompanying members. I am hoping there is some room for flexibility...

Thanks.