Sponsorship Agreement & IMM 1344A withdraw sponsorship or proceed to fail?

[make-it-easy]

Hello everyone!
This is my third topic with a couple of questions. So far I got answers to all my questions. You are great! Thank you for your help!

Introduction:
I am willing to sponsor my parents. From what I read, sponsoring parents differs from sponsoring spouses and common in law partners. Firstly, the processing times are longer (3 years for assessing the sponsorship eligibility and 2 years for asessing my parents).
And secondly, the submission process is not the same - it occurs in 2 phases: at the beginning I submit the sponsorship package ONLY.
If I meet sponsorship requirements, the CPC sends me an application for PR for me to forward it to my parents. They complete it and send it to the Visa Office.

Question #1
IMM 1344A (Application to sponsor and undertaking), Section A, question (1) asks whether I want to withdraw the app and get money back or proceed with the app, in case I am found ineligible to sponsor.
I can not understand, if I select option B (to proceed with the app) and I am found ineligible as a sponsor, how can CPC or Visa Office proceed to assess my parents, if nothing is completed and submitted by my parents yet (see my introduction -> submitting process)?

Question #2
The sponsorship guide IMM 5196 specifies the following steps for signing the Sponsorship Agreement:

1. Read and sign the form
2. Have your co-signer read and sign the form
3. Send the form to the person you are sponsoring to read and sign
4. The person you are sponsoring will send it back to you.

Is there a reason why the sponsor has to sign the agreement first and then the applicant?
From what I see the agreement contains obligations for both parties... and therefore it shouldn't matter (from my understanding)...

The reason I am asking is that I wanted to save money on UPS and sent the filled PDF form via e-mail to my parents. They signed it on Dec 22, 2010 and sent it back to me. A month later, when I had all the documents and forms ready, I signed the agreement and dated it with Jan 22, 2011.

I am wondering if the sequence of signing is important. Can the reverse sequence cause any issues / delays?


Thank you very much!

 

[make-it-easy]

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[scylla]

Take a read through the following recent thread to answer your first question.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t61957.0.html

 

[make-it-easy]

Take a read through the following recent thread to answer your first question.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t61957.0.html

I've already gone through that thread and found it irrelevant to my question.

The first difference is the spousal vs parents' sponsorship.
When you are sponsoring a spouse, you send the whole package, that includes the sponsors' documents as well as the applicant's ones.
In my case (sponsoring parents), I send the sponsor's documents only. My parents will send their documents on their own, only if I am found eligible to sponsor.

Considering that the CPC has the sponsor's documents ONLY for the assessment, I can't understand what documents are forwarded to the Visa Office, for the further processing, if I select the option B (no money back) and I am found ineligible.

However, thanks a lot for the link. There's still a lot of useful info there.

At this time, I am more concerned about the question 2, about the Sponsorship Agreement. Please help anyone!

 

[rjessome]

At this time, I am more concerned about the question 2, about the Sponsorship Agreement. Please help anyone!

It won't make a difference. The most important thing is that it is signed by both parties.

 

[make-it-easy]

It won't make a difference. The most important thing is that it is signed by both parties.

thanks for the input!
Yesterday I spoke with the immigration lawer regarding my concern, just to get a second opinion, and she told me that there could be a risk that the officer who will be assessing my application would be following "religiously" the instructions in the guideline and therefore they could fail me for the wrong sequence of the signatures.

I dont know how to proceed. Maybe I should call the CPC?

 

[rjessome]

thanks for the input!
Yesterday I spoke with the immigration lawer regarding my concern, just to get a second opinion, and she told me that there could be a risk that the officer who will be assessing my application would be following "religiously" the instructions in the guideline and therefore they could fail me for the wrong sequence of the signatures.

I dont know how to proceed. Maybe I should call the CPC?

Well if you've already sent the documents and they do get "religious" about it, they will send the package back to you looking for the original. Then you send it back to them. It only slows your application down by about a week or two. There will be stickers they will give you that you can put on the envelope when you return it and it will go to the top of the pile.

Wait and see if they request it first. There's no way for them to match it up if you send it now since it hasn't been processed yet.

 

[pearls]

I am a cosigner in my husbands parents sponsorship application. Me and my husband have been separated for an year now and as such I would like to withdraw my name from his application. He has left the country permanently. I was told by Immigration Canada that I have to get the signatures of all parties concerned (husband and parents) on the withdrawal application to be able to withdraw my name.
I do not understand why would that be required. My ex or his parents would never sign that application. I do not want to be penalized financially if his parents are sponsored to Canada. The application is still in process. I am frustrated with all the conditions posed by Immigration Canada.
please help!!

 

[rjessome]

I am a cosigner in my husbands parents sponsorship application. Me and my husband have been separated for an year now and as such I would like to withdraw my name from his application. He has left the country permanently. I was told by Immigration Canada that I have to get the signatures of all parties concerned (husband and parents) on the withdrawal application to be able to withdraw my name.
I do not understand why would that be required. My ex or his parents would never sign that application. I do not want to be penalized financially if his parents are sponsored to Canada. The application is still in process. I am frustrated with all the conditions posed by Immigration Canada.
please help!!

Who told you that? Some Call Centre flunkie? Grrr.... Not true. Follow the instructions on this page to withdraw yourself from the application, assuming it is not finished (visas issued). http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/spouse-apply-after.asp

I know this is for the page for spouses/dependent children BUT that's only because the parental sponsorship pages are closed for now. Aside from that, you say your husband has left Canada. You MUST reside IN Canada to sponsor your parents. He's voided the application by leaving permanently. You might want to let CIC know that he's left as well.