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Hi there. One of my friends who is Canadian citizen wants to bring his wife to Canada. Currently he is in India with his wife. Can he apply for tourist visa for her? Also, is it better to sponsor her PR or apply through express entry ? Which is the fastest way? Please advice.
 

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Hi there. One of my friends who is Canadian citizen wants to bring his wife to Canada. Currently he is in India with his wife. Can he apply for tourist visa for her? Also, is it better to sponsor her PR or apply through express entry ? Which is the fastest way? Please advice.
-She can apply for TRV - he provides an invite. Not guaranteed it will be gratned.

-He can sponsor her as spouse or she can apply express entry or both at the same time. No way to say in advance which will be fastest. Timing may not work to 'bring her with him.'

Note if he is residing abroad and not just visiting, he will need to demonstrate intent to return to Canada.
 

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Hi there. One of my friends who is Canadian citizen wants to bring his wife to Canada. Currently he is in India with his wife. Can he apply for tourist visa for her? Also, is it better to sponsor her PR or apply through express entry ? Which is the fastest way? Please advice.
There have been no FSW Express Entry draws in over a year now and we have no idea when draws will restart. So I would recommend he sponsor her through the spousal sponsorship program vs. her applying independently through EE.
 

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Hi there. One of my friends who is Canadian citizen wants to bring his wife to Canada. Currently he is in India with his wife. Can he apply for tourist visa for her? Also, is it better to sponsor her PR or apply through express entry ? Which is the fastest way? Please advice.
Its very tough to get a trv if u got a Canada spouse, to be honest with you.
I mean I've seen it happen once in a blue moon. Yo need very strong ties to India to overcome the pull factor of Cad spouse but I've seen ppl get extremely lucky with zero ties at all as well...Agree with other vets, Spousal sponsorship is your best bet, but also must be a good application to avoid a refusal, as they are cracking down on those apps that are not up to standard evidence wise, i.e. if you hand in a marriage certificate and 5 photos, you will get denied as well.
 

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Its very tough to get a trv if u got a Canada spouse, to be honest with you.
I mean I've seen it happen once in a blue moon. Yo need very strong ties to India to overcome the pull factor of Cad spouse but I've seen ppl get extremely lucky with zero ties at all as well...Agree with other vets, Spousal sponsorship is your best bet, but also must be a good application to avoid a refusal, as they are cracking down on those apps that are not up to standard evidence wise, i.e. if you hand in a marriage certificate and 5 photos, you will get denied as well.
If you have the following, there is no need for you to get denined for spuouce sponsership

All documents from your country, need to be translated into english and certified by the External Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA)

- All PDF's correcttly filled out with no missing box's at all, everything is filled with proper info or N/A
- Marriage Cert (translated/MOFA certified)
- Birth Certificate (translated/MOFA certified)
- Police Check (translated/MOFA certified)
- Citizenship (translated/MOFA certified)
- Directorate of Civil Affairs (a document showing wife name, parents name, marraige staus, nationally etc...) (translated/MOFA certified)
- 20 Photos (from wedding prep, after wedding, during wedding etc..)
- Your Letter of Employement and Tax Documents
- Your passport showing proof of entry to visit your wife
- Proof of conversation (translated/Canada Certified. example ATIO if you are on ontario)
- Letter's from freinds and family congratulating you on your wedding
- Social media postings of people congratulating you.

If you have all this, I do not see a reason why not you should be denied.
 
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Phalos

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If you have the following, there is no need for you to get denined for spuouce sponsership

All documents from your country, need to be translated into english and certified by the External Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA)

- All PDF's correcttly filled out with no missing box's at all, everything is filled with proper info or N/A
- Marriage Cert (translated/MOFA certified)
- Birth Certificate (translated/MOFA certified)
- Police Check (translated/MOFA certified)
- Citizenship (translated/MOFA certified)
- Directorate of Civil Affairs (a document showing wife name, parents name, marraige staus, nationally etc...) (translated/MOFA certified)
- 20 Photos (from wedding prep, after wedding, during wedding etc..)
- Your Letter of Employement and Tax Documents
- Your passport showing proof of entry to visit your wife
- Proof of conversation (translated/Canada Certified. example ATIO if you are on ontario)
- Letter's from freinds and family congratulating you on your wedding
- Social media postings of people congratulating you.

If you have all this, I do not see a reason why not you should be denied.
There are also country specific requirements such as Rukhshati.
Also, there are certain nuances that could raise red flags such as too little guests at wedding for some religions...its not that cut simple as you say.
Sometimes they ask for actual proof of cohabitation, as they did in my case - airplane tickets were not enough to say I actually resided with my spouse under 1 roof.
There are also some arbitrary things they can get you on...it depends on their scrutiny level of your application, so for example insufficient visits post marriage can also get you denied (as was in my case)...your list is not exhaustive, it is bare bone in a non complex, no scrutinized application.
 

armoured

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All documents from your country, need to be translated into english and certified by the External Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA)

- Marriage Cert (translated/MOFA certified) [etc]
Just to note: this Ministry of Foreign Affairs certification stuff is NOT universal. Meaning, not at all required.

It depends very much on the country.

If there's one simple rule of thumb, it's this: if translations/certification are done outside Canada, 'whatever foreign embassies require locally' is probably the answer. Note, in some countries there are different requirements for 'official documents' vs private stuff.

In many, many countries it's as simple as going to a notary or translator and asking them to arrange for both certified translation and certified copy. (The point being they usually know what's required)

And check the country specific requirements.
 

haddad287

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Just to note: this Ministry of Foreign Affairs certification stuff is NOT universal. Meaning, not at all required.

It depends very much on the country.

If there's one simple rule of thumb, it's this: if translations/certification are done outside Canada, 'whatever foreign embassies require locally' is probably the answer. Note, in some countries there are different requirements for 'official documents' vs private stuff.

In many, many countries it's as simple as going to a notary or translator and asking them to arrange for both certified translation and certified copy. (The point being they usually know what's required)

And check the country specific requirements.
All translated documentes should be certified by the external affairs of said country. So it can be used outside of that country.

I have personally done a visa spousal application. First try, got it completed. I know 2 out of 3 people, also first try. One of them, they did not have correctly certified documents, and application was returned.

My rule of thumb, certify all translated documents. Period.
 

armoured

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All translated documentes should be certified by the external affairs of said country. So it can be used outside of that country.

I have personally done a visa spousal application. First try, got it completed. I know 2 out of 3 people, also first try. One of them, they did not have correctly certified documents, and application was returned.

My rule of thumb, certify all translated documents. Period.
It is not true that this certification at foreign ministry needs to be done everywhere. In some countries, yes - presumably yours - but not all.

(Completed app no problem, too. Different country, probably.)
 

haddad287

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It is not true that this certification at foreign ministry needs to be done everywhere. In some countries, yes - presumably yours - but not all.

(Completed app no problem, too. Different country, probably.)
I said "should", I did not say it was madatory. this is based off personal actual experience from 4 different countries with 100% success rate.
 

armoured

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I said "should", I did not say it was madatory.
I do not understand this use of 'should.'

My point is: for virtually all European countries (just as an example as the cases I know), it is completely unnecessary for a sponsorship application, provides no advantage in processing or acceptance of documents by IRCC, and costs both money and time.

And that therefore, in this context, "should" is outright bad advice: it serves no purpose abd costs time and money.

So no: not 'should' in many countries. If true for your countries, fine - but as generalized universal advice, it is bad advice.

That said, for those who want to take an unncecessary step 'just in case' - it won't hurt. And for those who for some reason can't determine what type of translation/certification is required in their country - it won't hurt (but finding out what is actually needed would be better).
 
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haddad287

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I do not understand this use of 'should.'

My point is: for virtually all European countries (just as an example as the cases I know), it is completely unnecessary for a sponsorship application, provides no advantage in processing or acceptance of documents by IRCC, and costs both money and time.

And that therefore, in this context, "should" is outright bad advice: it serves no purpose abd costs time and money.

So no: not 'should' in many countries. If true for your countries, fine - but as generalized universal advice, it is bad advice.

That said, for those who want to take an unncecessary step 'just in case' - it won't hurt. And for those who for some reason can't determine what type of translation/certification is required in their country - it won't hurt (but finding out what is actually needed would be better).
No, should is not bad advice, and it's not much money to get documents certified. Yes of course it varies by country, so confirming in your case would be appropriate, but in most countries in the middle east/africa, that info is not available. Of course in Europe or Asia or USA, you can get that answer easily, but most countries, you cannot.

Getting documents certified will not make your application worse, it does good only, there is no CON's to submitting a certified document.
 

armoured

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but in most countries in the middle east/africa, ... Of course in Europe or Asia or USA, you can get that answer easily, but most countries, you cannot.

Getting documents certified will not make your application worse, it does good only, there is no CON's to submitting a certified document.
We come back to the same thing: I've no objection to you saying it is useful for countries for where it is required.

But, ummm, Europe + Asia + USA is NOT a small part of the world.

And "it does good only" is not always true - answer is for (in those areas where you can get the answer easily) it has no benefit whatsoever, and indeed has actual costs - time and money and hassle.

I don't know why this is remotely in dispute: all I'm saying is that getting MFA stamps/certification is in many cases (I'd say 'most' but okay, debatable) completely unnecessary. That's objectively true.

And that therefore advice that you 'should' get it is wrong in many cases.
 

haddad287

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We come back to the same thing: I've no objection to you saying it is useful for countries for where it is required.

But, ummm, Europe + Asia + USA is NOT a small part of the world.

And "it does good only" is not always true - answer is for (in those areas where you can get the answer easily) it has no benefit whatsoever, and indeed has actual costs - time and money and hassle.

I don't know why this is remotely in dispute: all I'm saying is that getting MFA stamps/certification is in many cases (I'd say 'most' but okay, debatable) completely unnecessary. That's objectively true.

And that therefore advice that you 'should' get it is wrong in many cases.
that is your opinion.