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~*Dani*~

Star Member
Oct 1, 2012
87
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Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 6,2012
Doc's Request.
August 16th,2012
AOR Received.
June 20th,2012
Med's Done....
February 17,2012
Interview........
October 18th,2012
Passport Req..
refused........... :(
VISA ISSUED...
so sad
LANDED..........
so upset and sad.
tow75 said:
Hi everyone,

It seems like most people here sponsored their Moroccan husbands outland, and I sponsored mine inland, but I wanted to share my story.
We applied last October through a consultant (BAD IDEA). I married my husband in November of 2010, almost a year before we applied. We had a marriage interview this Monday at our local CIC office, and since then my whole life is falling apart. It was the hardest experience of our lives...the IO consistently insinuated that my husband has faked 2 1/2 years of a relationship with me to gain status, and drilled me as to why my husband's father renewed his visa at a certain time and didn't come to our wedding. We thought it ended well though...the IO said she had a "good feeling" about it, but wanted to look things through before letting us know for sure (she heavily hinted that she was going to approve, made small talk, told us we were a young couple but very mature, etc etc). I had a bad feeling about it, but my husband felt more positive, and faxed her some more information (proof that he is colourblind which is why he dropped out of an industrial drafting program 3 years ago, and a university transcript from 2008/2009).

He spoke to her again on Tuesday over the phone, and she said she has reconsidered her decision, and sees too many contradictions in our case (in the interview she said there were none). She seemed about to refuse but my husband begged her to allow us to send in more evidence, and not to judge us in one day. She didn't want any of our emails, facebook chats, cards or financial information at the interview, now she wants everything. Our deadline for sending everything was Tuesday, and we did everything we could.

When I spoke to the IO on Tuesday, her argument was that since my husband did badly in an engineering program 4 years ago (before we met) and changed programs, then dropped out due to being colourblind, and couldn't remember if he found out in 2009 or 2008 and said 2008, the IO thinks that he ENTERED Canada in 2008 with the INTENTION not of studying and getting a degree, but of meeting someone like me to get residency. According to her, he was faking a relationship with me even while we were still dating and he was still in status, and had no reason too need permanent residency (his plan was always to get a degree and go back to Morocco to work with his dad, but this changed when we got into a serious relationship). My husband has been out of status since September 2010...he tried to have it renewed but it didn't work out. But he's stayed here for ME, and turned down plane tickets back to Morocco to work with his dad on a couple of occasions.

What I tried to explain to the IO was that he has no INCENTIVE to fake a marriage to me for residency, because there's nothing in it for him other than staying here with me. His parents are millionaires, he faces no discrimination or persecution back in Morocco, and he has a million dollar inheritance waiting for him there. His life here is not great...no health insurance, no work permit, no income of any kind other than what I buy him. If he was in Morocco right now he'd be driving around in a fancy car, eating out at fancy restaurants every night, and generally getting the best of what life has to offer, without any of the work normally involved. His dad is a wedding planner and plans wedding for the King's family...in fact, news of our predicament has spread all the way over there, and our IO was about to get a call from one of the King's advisors (which never happened because my husband's dad told the advisor not to).

We're both 99% sure that our application will be refused. The IO called my husband's father and has talked to his mom...they both explained why they weren't at our wedding, and that they love me like a daughter, would love it if we came to live in Morocco indefinitely, and that they will support us both for the rest of their lives. I have a great relationship with my husband's parents, his mom comes to visit every few months, and his family have completely opened themselves up to me...I've never been made to feel uncomfortable or pressured into anything even with the cultural differences.

I'm ashamed to be a Canadian citizen right now. Why is it that we stereotype everyone from a certain country as being "visa hungry" regardless of economic background? I understand why IOs have to intimidate people, to sort out the real from the fake. But what else can we prove other than how genuine our relationship really is? We sent in cards, emails from my parents mentioning my husband, our facebook chats from 2 years ago, my facebook chats with my mother in law, etc etc. All the things I thought would be proof have been used against me...when my husband showed the IO my life insurance policy with him as the sole beneficiary, she basically said "You get $70,000 if she dies...you really lucked out with her didn't you?" Married couples are supposed to support each other, but I guess when your husband is Moroccan it's a different story. If he was British, or Australian or something, I'm sure none of this would have ever happened.

All our friends are shocked by what's happened, and my landlord and neighbours have called the IO to the point where she got all annoyed and told me to stop giving out her number. We're so fortunate to have such amazing friends and family who support us and defend us in this difficult time.

My husband is the most generous, down to earth and kind person I've ever met, and will ever meet. He loves fishing and cooking, and my parents love him. He spends his days cooking me delicious meals and cleaning our house. The last time we visited my parents together, he cooked for a party of 20 people, barbequed, made canapes and then cleaned all the dishes afterwards. The first time my parents met him, a month after we started dating, my mom told me that he would never hurt me, and he would never pressure me into doing anything or make me uncomfortable. A few months before we got married, my best friend told me "You know he'll never ever leave you, right?" If our marriage is not genuine...then no one else's is either.

We just can't change what's already happened, so there's no way we can prove the IO wrong. I just hope we get her refusal letter soon so we can sell everything we have here to leave the country.

It makes me sick that we're supposed to be a 1st world country, open to people of all cultures and believes who can DECIDE what they want to do, and yet a 22 year old Moroccan who gave up a great life in his homeland to stay out of status in Canada with his wife is "willing" to fake everything for a visa...even with his family and all his friends. If Canada can't accept our relationship, then I'm sure Morocco will. At least it's warm there, there's beaches and beautiful architecture, and we can live a normal, immigration free life without our right to choose our future being refused simply because of where my husband was born.

Sorry for the rant. Has anyone else been refused on similar grounds as well?
Tow75, I definitely feel your pain. The visa officer at Canadian Embassy in Rabat refused a visa to my husband. I been living in Morocco for a year with my husband. I give up everything behind in Canada to be with my husband? why!? I love him! I just knew that he is one for me. He is kind, generous, and excellent at cooking, cleaning, a supportive husband, etc.

The VO thinks that we did it on purpose by living together to get the status nor privilege to get the visa which is not true.. sheesh.. it pissed me off. sometime I felt ashamed to be Canadian citizen and ashamed that Canada discriminate certain countries that have high marriage shams, and visa hungry. not all of them. THey should not judge so quickly!

"I'm ashamed to be a Canadian citizen right now. Why is it that we stereotype everyone from a certain country as being "visa hungry" regardless of economic background? I understand why IOs have to intimidate people, to sort out the real from the fake. But what else can we prove other than how genuine our relationship really is?"

Yes I definitely agree with that. We proved EVERYTHING such as wedding congratulation card from my grandmother and my mother, emails msgs and skype, you name it...etc...pictures.. something need to be changed such like interviewing the sponsor and application to get clearer pictures.

"It makes me sick that we're supposed to be a 1st world country, open to people of all cultures and believes who can DECIDE what they want to do, and yet a 22 year old Moroccan who gave up a great life in his homeland to stay out of status in Canada with his wife is "willing" to fake everything for a visa...even with his family and all his friends. If Canada can't accept our relationship, then I'm sure Morocco will. At least it's warm there, there's beaches and beautiful architecture, and we can live a normal, immigration free life without our right to choose our future being refused simply because of where my husband was born"

**nod** Racism still exist in Canada. Canada is supposed to accept all people of races, religion and colours. I noticed that VOs discriminate all people from certain countries, such as Africa, Pakistan and India, Nepal, South America, Mexico because of high marriage shams and using wife or husband for just a visa to Canada. not all of people is not like that!!
 

Habibti

Hero Member
Apr 4, 2011
804
44
Vancouver, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat, Morocco
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-02-2011
File Transfer...
31-03-2011
Med's Done....
10-01-2011 / 06-09-2012
Interview........
12-09-2011 / Denied 4-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
January 9, 2013
LANDED..........
January 18, 2013 in Montreal
~*Dani*~ said:
NO! you misunderstood.... I am still in Morocco. my **spam** advised me to stay in Morocco to show that my husband and I are Friggin' GENUINE! all of those pissed me off, really. I just don't care but... I am still waiting for time and date for Appeal hearing so I can fly home.
it was a "DREAM" that my husband and I had while sleeping, it was like we was in Canada, with the family but we woke up and see that we are still in Morocco. GET IT????!!!?!?
Sorry, but I find you are rude and aggressive towards me. It is not fair since I was here to help you, support and encourage you. I understood it was a dream. It is just I did not know you were still in Morocco. I thought you went back to your child and take care of her until the hearing. So, the wait until the hearing will be easy on you as most of us were separated from our spouse until the hearing.
 

~*Dani*~

Star Member
Oct 1, 2012
87
3
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 6,2012
Doc's Request.
August 16th,2012
AOR Received.
June 20th,2012
Med's Done....
February 17,2012
Interview........
October 18th,2012
Passport Req..
refused........... :(
VISA ISSUED...
so sad
LANDED..........
so upset and sad.
sorry, I apologize because all of this immigration is so stressful for me and I been thinking about it non stop. I would not leave my husband behind, he's my supporter that is helpful for me. He told me not to worry about it too much. my **spam** advised me to stay in Morocco until the appeal date is set then I fly there.
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
FatimZahra said:
Where does your husband live in Morocco? Mine is from Ourzazate. Going there in January wasn't warm at all...I'm glad I brought winter clothes. My in-laws thought it funny that I was cold all the time since it's so cold here (normally). I tried several times to explain the indoor heating makes a HUGE difference. lol

Hi Fatim ... my husband lives in Rabat ... that is my main concern ... the lack of indoor heating and the structure of the houses (ie, cement), it seems to me it would make for a very cold mix ... ok, will definitely take my winter clothes with me ;D lol
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
deegirl said:
Bring lots of warm clothes cause it's cold over there....with no heat you will freeze
Thanks, yes for sure, definitely will take my warm clothes with me ;D
 

FatimZahra

Hero Member
Jan 17, 2012
244
3
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25.04.11
AOR Received.
27.05.11
File Transfer...
06.06.11
Med's Done....
12.02.11 / Re-do Meds: 03.02.12 / Received: 15.03.12
Interview........
19.01.12 & 07.02.12
Passport Req..
18.04.12
VISA ISSUED...
Told he was approved for Visa 15.03.12/ issued 18.04.12
LANDED..........
16.08.12 !!
jamali said:
Hi Fatim ... my husband lives in Rabat ... that is my main concern ... the lack of indoor heating and the structure of the houses (ie, cement), it seems to me it would make for a very cold mix ... ok, will definitely take my winter clothes with me ;D lol
I would put it more freezing hehe Oh my goodness, I never thought I would be so cold there. I borrowed a fleece housecoat while there and wore it around the house all the time. Bring warm socks too. During the day it was fine.

We are hoping to go back in November. I'm so anxious.
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
FatimZahra said:
I would put it more freezing hehe Oh my goodness, I never thought I would be so cold there. I borrowed a fleece housecoat while there and wore it around the house all the time. Bring warm socks too. During the day it was fine.

We are hoping to go back in November. I'm so anxious.
lol @ housecoat ... must have been a sight ;D and a surprise for them ... lol

thanks again, i'm glad to hear from someone whose had this experience ... my husband kept telling me to bring some warm clothes because he would remind me of my past visits where I got cold ... but really i needed to hear it from a Canadian because they would know for sure ... lol
 

Feelslikeforever

Full Member
Nov 25, 2012
47
0
Winnipeg
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31-08-2012
Doc's Request.
21-11-2012
AOR Received.
04-09-2012
File Transfer...
26-10-2012
Med's Done....
01-08-2012
Interview........
04-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
13-03-2013
LANDED..........
24-03-2013
Thanks again, I'm looking forward for this visit because I've never visited in the winter before so I'm curious to see about the weather, I just hope it's not too cold for me ;D


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Hi Jamali

Defiantly bring warm clothes. I wore my winter clothing in the house the whole time. I suggest you bring those slipper socks...wished i had thought of it... more comfortable then wearing shoes all the time.
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
Feelslikeforever said:
Hi Jamali

Defiantly bring warm clothes. I wore my winter clothing in the house the whole time. I suggest you bring those slipper socks...wished i had thought of it... more comfortable then wearing shoes all the time.
Hi Feelslikeforever,

Yup, definitely taking some warm socks, i'm already packing them in my luggage ... thanks for the heads up ... lol
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
Hi to all, I hope everyone is enjoying their holidays :)

I know that I ask so many questions on here and I'm sure I will be asking more in the future because we are preparing our application and will be submitting it in the very near future ... so with this process, many questions and worries do arise.

Right now, my biggest worry is about my family and their relationship with my husband ... in short, they don't want me to be with him or to marry him. They are against our relationship, so therefore they will not support us in our application ...

... and since some of you may have experienced this, i would like to know if it will be good for us to mention the truth about my family in a letter to show how my family is against us etc, or would this letter be something that will be against us? How should I address this issue? Or should I even address this issue?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any replies :)
 

Habibti

Hero Member
Apr 4, 2011
804
44
Vancouver, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat, Morocco
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-02-2011
File Transfer...
31-03-2011
Med's Done....
10-01-2011 / 06-09-2012
Interview........
12-09-2011 / Denied 4-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
January 9, 2013
LANDED..........
January 18, 2013 in Montreal
jamali said:
Hi to all, I hope everyone is enjoying their holidays :)

I know that I ask so many questions on here and I'm sure I will be asking more in the future because we are preparing our application and will be submitting it in the very near future ... so with this process, many questions and worries do arise.

Right now, my biggest worry is about my family and their relationship with my husband ... in short, they don't want me to be with him or to marry him. They are against our relationship, so therefore they will not support us in our application ...

... and since some of you may have experienced this, i would like to know if it will be good for us to mention the truth about my family in a letter to show how my family is against us etc, or would this letter be something that will be against us? How should I address this issue? Or should I even address this issue?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any replies :)
Why are they against him?

Personally, I would not have married my husband without the consent of my parents. It is obligatory in my faith to have the consents of all parents. My faith is always first. It was the same for my husband.
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
Habibti said:
Why are they against him?

Personally, I would not have married my husband without the consent of my parents. It is obligatory in my faith to have the consents of all parents. My faith is always first. It was the same for my husband.
Well, to make a long story short ... i am the first in my family to marry, let alone date, outside of my culture. They don't like the fact that I went outside our culture and the fact that I met him online ... this is 2 firsts for my family.

While they are not completely against him right now, they just don't talk about him or talk to him, although now and then they do ask the odd question about Morocco or his family ... but basically they ignore this part of my life. They do know I visit Morocco and they never try to stop me ... as long as they know I'm safe and keep in touch ... I have a big family and in my culture, extended family is important too, so thankfully not all my family are like that, some do ask when he will come to Canada and some have befriended him on facebook, and some are happy for me and ask me to bring them souvenirs from Morocco ... but all in all, they're not aware of the whole sponsoring process.

As for going against my family, I'll be honest ... at first I had their beliefs too, I never thought or imagined that I would marry outside of my culture and meeting my husband was a surprise to me .. but the heart wants what it wants and for the first time in my life, I followed my heart and did something that is for me only :)

I know in time, they will come around but at this point it's hard for them to let go because they are so used to me being here, and doing whatever they wanted and if they needed me, I would always put their needs first ... so in time, i am certain time will prevail because they love me no matter what and I am not afraid to lose them just because of who I married.
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
Again, if anyone had this experience or knows of anyone else who did ... can you advise of how I should address this issue or should I even address it all? Although I'm sure this will come up eventually somewhere down the road :-X
 

FatimZahra

Hero Member
Jan 17, 2012
244
3
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25.04.11
AOR Received.
27.05.11
File Transfer...
06.06.11
Med's Done....
12.02.11 / Re-do Meds: 03.02.12 / Received: 15.03.12
Interview........
19.01.12 & 07.02.12
Passport Req..
18.04.12
VISA ISSUED...
Told he was approved for Visa 15.03.12/ issued 18.04.12
LANDED..........
16.08.12 !!
jamali said:
Again, if anyone had this experience or knows of anyone else who did ... can you advise of how I should address this issue or should I even address it all? Although I'm sure this will come up eventually somewhere down the road :-X
That's a tough one. I can understand that you feel that nothing should be hidden but at the same time it's negative. For us they never asked about my parents. The interview questions were about his family accepting me and him stepping outside of his culture.

My parents had talked to my hubby once. In the section where they ask if your family has met him, I put down the date that I told my parents. As I said it was never questioned.

Hope this helps in some way.
 

jamali

Hero Member
Nov 17, 2011
252
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 2013
AOR Received.
May 2013
File Transfer...
May 21, 2013
Med's Done....
January 2013 (first medical never rec'd) so re-do December 2013
Interview........
November 2013
VISA ISSUED...
March 5, 2014
LANDED..........
March 16, 2014
FatimZahra said:
That's a tough one. I can understand that you feel that nothing should be hidden but at the same time it's negative. For us they never asked about my parents. The interview questions were about his family accepting me and him stepping outside of his culture.

My parents had talked to my hubby once. In the section where they ask if your family has met him, I put down the date that I told my parents. As I said it was never questioned.

Hope this helps in some way.
Thanks FatimZahra ... this does help because now i'm thinking I won't bring up the negative things i'm dealing with my family, and focus only on the good things. And if they should ask i'll continue focus on the good only, because thankfully there is some :) Thanks for your response