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tanveervora

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Hello, I am Canadian Citizen living exclusively outside Canada since 2021 but I have visited to Canada twice since then. I was in Canada last April 2023. I recently got married and I am applying for my Wife's PR. My question is, what Proof I need to show that I intend to live in Canada once my wife get PR. I own a house that is rented & I also have a valid job which is working from home. I have experience letter from my company and papers of my house. Will these two be enough. Appreciate your help.
 

ERCAN

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No, those documents alone won't be sufficient. While they show you have the means to return to Canada, they don't demonstrate a genuine intent to do so. Consider adding information that explains why you left Canada initially and why you plan to return, to make your case more compelling.
 

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Give IRCC a copy of your notice to your tenant that they would have to vacate so that you could take posession and move-in.
 

Copingwithlife

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You’ll have to show more than that . Appears you got PR in 2017-12, and as soon as you got your citizenship you left the country in 2021 to work remotely versus living & working from Canada .
Just having a property won’t cut it. If you’re working from home , why do you need to apply for PR for your spouse ?
 

mkarish

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Jul 7, 2023
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I just applied in August and got AOR, my wife (The sponsor) lives with me outside of Canada.

We submitted our application online, and you should do the same, all you need to do is write a decent letter of explanation, show that you have plans for supporting yourselves, and if you have a balance in your Canadian bank show it, finally, you show any other documents to support you, such rent agreement, tax filing if any in the past few years.

Add as many documents as you have, but the most important is to write one letter of explanation that sums it all up, best of luck.
 

Flyingfast

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I just applied in August and got AOR, my wife (The sponsor) lives with me outside of Canada.

We submitted our application online, and you should do the same, all you need to do is write a decent letter of explanation, show that you have plans for supporting yourselves, and if you have a balance in your Canadian bank show it, finally, you show any other documents to support you, such rent agreement, tax filing if any in the past few years.

Add as many documents as you have, but the most important is to write one letter of explanation that sums it all up, best of luck.
All you have is AOR? Everyone gets that and it means nothing. Just that IRCC has the application. You have no idea yet whether the out of Canada sponsorship will meet the requirement and be successful.
 
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ERCAN

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I just applied in August and got AOR, my wife (The sponsor) lives with me outside of Canada.

We submitted our application online, and you should do the same, all you need to do is write a decent letter of explanation, show that you have plans for supporting yourselves, and if you have a balance in your Canadian bank show it, finally, you show any other documents to support you, such rent agreement, tax filing if any in the past few years.

Add as many documents as you have, but the most important is to write one letter of explanation that sums it all up, best of luck.
That's not the answer to OP question. Showing intent to go back to Canada isn't the same as showing proof of financial capacity.
 

Sonikell

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So we live outside as well. And we attached an LOE explaining our plan in rough detail. We just mentioned both our career highlights and how we want to pursue our careers further in canada with some information about our investments and our housing situation when we got there.

it’s nice to add extra detail if you can for sure. But in our case it wasn’t necessary.
 

mkarish

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Jul 7, 2023
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All you have is AOR? Everyone gets that and it means nothing. Just that IRCC has the application. You have no idea yet whether the out of Canada sponsorship will meet the requirement and be successful.
Thank you for the feedback. Let us hope for the best.
 

tanveervora

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I have a rental agreement with my tenant and I have requested him to vacate the property in March 2024 when 1year lease ends. How about a letter from my company stating that I will need to be back in Canada by a specific date. Will that strong the case?
 

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I just applied in August and got AOR, my wife (The sponsor) lives with me outside of Canada.

We submitted our application online, and you should do the same, all you need to do is write a decent letter of explanation, show that you have plans for supporting yourselves, and if you have a balance in your Canadian bank show it, finally, you show any other documents to support you, such rent agreement, tax filing if any in the past few years.

Add as many documents as you have, but the most important is to write one letter of explanation that sums it all up, best of luck.
As others have said, AOR doesn't indicate that IRCC has accepted that your evidence is sufficient for sponsorship from outside of Canada. This assessment doesn't happen until later in the process. Having said that, hopefully what you submitted is enough. Good luck.
 

Canada2020eh

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I have a rental agreement with my tenant and I have requested him to vacate the property in March 2024 when 1year lease ends. How about a letter from my company stating that I will need to be back in Canada by a specific date. Will that strong the case?
Provide the docs showing the tenant is to vacate. A letter from your company saying you have a position here when you return to Canada is better than saying a specific date unless you plan to come before your wife, but if you did plan to come before your wife that would definitely show intent to return. Giving a specific date won't speed up the processing.
 

autoscriptor

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This is just a side note.

In 2019, my wife and I lived exclusively outside Canada and had no immediate plans to return. I'm a citizen, and my wife just had a TRV she used whenever we would visit the country. When entering Canada that year, we were asked to see an immigration officer at the airport. The officer asked why my wife didn't apply for permanent residency. We told him we didn't have immediate plans to move to Canada. He seemed slightly irked, and he reached and grabbed a thick reference book from a shelf behind him. It was the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, in which he has many bookmarks. Without flipping through the book, he directly opened the page where he showed me that the wife of a Canadian citizen can apply for PR while the couple is living together abroad. He said that she can apply and acquire permanent residency, and even if you don't have plans to return to Canada, her PR can be renewed while we live together.

I know there is a requirement to outline plans for moving back to Canada, but what the officer said made me feel that as long as you hold a source of income wherever you are and you will provide proof that you will have enough funds to support you and your spouse when you move back to Canada, that will be enough. This is very similar to people who immigrate to Canada through Express Entry, for example. Express Entry candidates need proof of enough funds before they are given PRs. If that is the case with Express Entry candidates, then it should be at least the same for someone who is already a Citizen. I don't think they need a well-established source of income in Canada to be able to move back in with their non-Canadaian spouse.
 

Canada2020eh

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This is just a side note.

In 2019, my wife and I lived exclusively outside Canada and had no immediate plans to return. I'm a citizen, and my wife just had a TRV she used whenever we would visit the country. When entering Canada that year, we were asked to see an immigration officer at the airport. The officer asked why my wife didn't apply for permanent residency. We told him we didn't have immediate plans to move to Canada. He seemed slightly irked, and he reached and grabbed a thick reference book from a shelf behind him. It was the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, in which he has many bookmarks. Without flipping through the book, he directly opened the page where he showed me that the wife of a Canadian citizen can apply for PR while the couple is living together abroad. He said that she can apply and acquire permanent residency, and even if you don't have plans to return to Canada, her PR can be renewed while we live together.

I know there is a requirement to outline plans for moving back to Canada, but what the officer said made me feel that as long as you hold a source of income wherever you are and you will provide proof that you will have enough funds to support you and your spouse when you move back to Canada, that will be enough. This is very similar to people who immigrate to Canada through Express Entry, for example. Express Entry candidates need proof of enough funds before they are given PRs. If that is the case with Express Entry candidates, then it should be at least the same for someone who is already a Citizen. I don't think they need a well-established source of income in Canada to be able to move back in with their non-Canadaian spouse.
Were you working while outside of Canada? That can be a different situation than if you weren't.
 

autoscriptor

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Were you working while outside of Canada? That can be a different situation than if you weren't.
Yes, we both were. Even if we were not, having enough funds for support should be enough. Otherwise, it will be discriminatory since Express Entry applicants will have more favorable treatment by IRCC.