Some questions because I am frustrated

[Qworld]

Notelease no one tell me visit CIC web site
I read that i can apply for permanent residence after study
I spoke with immigration lawyer also told me that
Part of the message:

There are options for applying for permanent resident status after graduating from a Canadian public post-secondary institution. Would you like to discuss these options in detail? Please note that we charge $250 CAD for a consultation.

until now this is good
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I visited several sites for the Canadian provinces
Which have programs for the migration of students
But on the other side:
iread in CIC web site:
I must prove i will back to my country after the end of the study
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Some people told me me:
You can only study things related to the field of business or study in your country of origin
But on the other side:
I did not find the rule say that
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Some people also told me:
Can not be for all family members to apply for study visas
Otherwise, the total will be rejected or half
But also I did not find the rule say that
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I heard a lot of frustrating Replies:

You're still not getting it. You can only work if the course requires it, then it is only for a maximum of 3 years OR and it is required as part of the course. Example you have to work for 3 months as part of the curriculum, then that is all you can work! You have to have a work visa, and you can't apply for it while living here. Secondly a student VISA does not allow you to work, it allows you to STUDY, unless it's part of the course.
Now read this, you may find that Canada is not the bed of roses you think it is. There are plenty of other articles if you want them.

and racist Replies:

there are company's in western canada bringing in cheap foreign workers doing ****ty work that don't have the skills or knowledge to do the task they are sent out to do, so my suggestion unless your American stay wherever the **** your at and leave Canadian jobs to Canadians.

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I have another problem
We 3 will go to study:
me - my mother - my sister
Younger brothers would go with their mother
( study visa first)
But the problem is that I want them to complete their secondary education
In Canada
And not with us enough money to spend on secondary education
So I want to know if there are secondary schools free or cheap
Or belonging to religious communities
Or if there are cities or provinces offer
Secondary education cheap for foreigners
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If I went to a two-year study
Do I have to prove to me living expenses for a period of two years ($ 20,000 thousand)
Or can prove one year
And the other year can be prove later
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I want to know if it was $ 250 to consult a lawyer a good amount
I begun thinking about the use of immigration lawyer

I have still a lot of questions
I'll write it later
Because I'm currently busy
but ihope some one can reply and give me good answers And not just guesses

 

[Gaurav_OT]

First of all its difficult situation for you..if you all want to come here and study..high chances of rejection are there...secondly there are no school which would offer cheap education to foreigners.....its a capitalistic world everything costs money here....$250 is a reasonable fees for a lawyer..

 

[amikety]

You're the same guy as before, the one from Egypt, aren't you? You want to bring over your mother and your siblings all at the same time. The one with the Bachelor's of Law.

Several very nice people explained to you how realistically impossible that was.

To answer your questions:

1) Yes, you must prove ties to your home country to get a study permit (or any temporary visa). A study permit is a TEMPORARY visa. Temporary means you will go home at the end. The thinking here is, if you don't qualify for PNP or are rejected, you will go as promised when you applied for your TEMPORARY status.
2) Only program that allows to apply for PNP directly out of school that I am aware of is the PhD program. All other require work experience. It varies by province how much work experience you need. Some PNP programs also have quotas or special rules that limit who they accept. Frankly, asking about all the programs at once is too much. You need to pick which PNP you want and stick with it. No one here will be an expert (at least enough for you) on all the PNPs.
3) Yes, if your choice of studies don't make sense in light of your previous degrees, you will be rejected. A common rejection from the VO is "Studies are not realistic in light of previous studies." I suggest you review the International Students thread and read about the rejections. You will see that often listed.
4) Students are allowed to work 20 hours per week and full time on school holidays. (Summer break is NOT a holiday unless the university is closed - you won't find that.) Part time work does NOT count towards PNP.
5) Use of a lawyer will not improve your chances of getting a visa. You know what will? Being realistic and listening to the advice of people who are familiar with the immigration system.
6) Your mother will need to show significant funds to support herself and your siblings to get into Canada. She will need to have 10k for herself, plus a full year's tuition up front. Immigration may also request to see additional funds for her dependant children. The dependant children cannot work in Canada either. If you go, you will also need to show 10K living expenses plus 1 year tuition up front. Same for your brother. That's 30K plus tuition up front.
7) Canada is expensive. This is something you'll need to come to terms with if you will be successful here. (Just for example - Canadians pay the most for cell phone service in the entire world!)
8 ) When you apply for a temporary status, you must prove your ties to your home country. Having your mother and siblings in Canada is a tie to Canada, not your home country. Family in Canada is weak ties to home country. You have weak ties to your home country - easy rejection for CIC. If you're all applying for study permits, you will all be in Canada. You must declare any family in Canada on your application.

All the information you need is on the CIC website and the guides on the website. Also, all the lawyers I spoke with gave free consultations.

 

[Qworld]

Your mother will need to show significant funds to support herself and your siblings to get into Canada. She will need to have 10k for herself, plus a full year's tuition up front. Immigration may also request to see additional funds for her dependant children. The dependant children cannot work in Canada either. If you go, you will also need to show 10K living expenses plus 1 year tuition up front. Same for your brother. That's 30K plus tuition up front.
7) Canada is expensive. This is something you'll need to come to terms with if you will be successful here. (Just for example - Canadians pay the most for cell phone service in the entire world!)
8 ) When you apply for a temporary status, you must prove your ties to your home country. Having your mother and siblings in Canada is a tie to Canada, not your home country. Family in Canada is weak ties to home country. You have weak ties to your home country - easy rejection for CIC. If you're all applying for study permits, you will all be in Canada. You must declare any family in Canada on your application.

I know all this+We have enough money (But not enough for Secondary Schools)+
regarding ties:
We will leave the apartment + a piece of land in our country
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Some people told me that I can not bring my family (my brothers + and my mother)
But I read that I can
Or at least i can help them

 

[Qworld]

All the information you need is on the CIC website and the guides on the website. Also, all the lawyers I spoke with gave free consultations.

I did not find such lawyers
all want fees first

 

[Qworld]

secondly there are no school which would offer cheap education to foreigners

I will try to Ask a lawyer
Maybe he can find a solution
As we say in my country
give bread to the baker

 

[amikety]

I will try to Ask a lawyer
Maybe he can find a solution
As we say in my country
give bread to the baker

I have to agree. Schooling is expensive in Canada. Most schools will require a study permit and international tuition for students on a TRV. Also, completing secondary school in Canada doesn't give your siblings any rights to attend university (they would still need to get a study permit) in Canada.