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bellaluna

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I truly don't know how you're planning on getting a job offer without any work experience in those fields in the first place though.
Quoted for truth.

That's why my suggestion was for OP to find some sort of skilled work in his home country, which would qualify them for Express Entry. Many Pakistanis are able to migrate to Canada through Express Entry, so it doesn't seem like there's a dearth of skilled jobs there as OP likes to make it seem. I think they just want to bypass the local work and go to Canada right away, but that's just not realistic.
 

LoneEarthling

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By paper based I mean it has no connection to EE, you apply directly to the province.

I truly don't know how you're planning on getting a job offer without any work experience in those fields in the first place though.
Well, I am naive. May be I am still missing something.

  1. NOC C or D jobs like customer service representative (CSR) or laborer etc. require no special skill (in fact officially NOC D is listed as an occupation for which some on-job-training may be provided.
  2. Next, I am just going to search online for such jobs in PEI and just flood them with my applications.
  3. Next comes the part where I am hoping for good luck, keeping fingers crossed and day-dreaming: A PEI employer agrees to go for an LMIA. Because there has to be a reason that PEI is the only one offering NOC C & D stream. Jobs like CSR or oil-field worker require good communication skills. A graduate certainly has them, rather is over-qualified. I know I am making huge expectations here and dreaming a little too high here.
  4. Next, again holding on fingers and luck, that LMIA gets approved. This way I get a work permit/visa. I am not immigrating yet, just moving for a job. An expatriate, essentially. Check this link , according to which NOC C or D may allow you to work for 2 years max. Again, I am just hoping here that an employer has lost his/her mind to hire an over-educated yet under-experienced candidate.
  5. Once, I get some work experience, then I can pursue the immigration channels applicable to me.

I understand that I won't get rich, in fact I would be barely making ends meet. But whatever it's worth, I will have the dignity of being employed. And eventually after 3-4 years I may become a PR.

I would hate for you to pick out flaws in this scheme. But the fact is, I might need you to.
Although, if you think that it just might work then please for God's sake don't run to the authority yelling about a getaway possibility in the system. I am not breaking any law here, it's natural to seek a better future for yourself.
 

21Goose

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While you're planning all this, why don't you also try and get a job in any NOC code that will give you the requisite work ex?

Your work ex doesn't have to match your educational qualifications - you could, for example, work as a journalist for one year and get the work ex. you need. Or work in IT, or work as a office assistant - there's lots of NOC codes that will make you eligible without being too onerous.

Since you don't care about the salary, career advancement, or anything except holding down a job for one year, it should be a little easier to get a job, right?
 

LoneEarthling

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Quoted for truth.

That's why my suggestion was for OP to find some sort of skilled work in his home country, which would qualify them for Express Entry. Many Pakistanis are able to migrate to Canada through Express Entry, so it doesn't seem like there's a dearth of skilled jobs there as OP likes to make it seem. I think they just want to bypass the local work and go to Canada right away, but that's just not realistic.
Even though I am not obliged to justify this situation, let me try. If you are even slightly aware of Pakistan/India, you will understand the issue.

For every single job vacancy (not necessarily relevant to studies) there are several thousand applicants. The corrupt officials literally fix a price as bribe. Whoever can afford it, gets it.
I have been unemployed since November 2014. Most of my batch-mates are still unemployed. Those few who are employed are so, through family references and nepotism. And this is where it hurts us others the most. We are neither successful locally nor globally.

Furthermore, the country never had a chance to develop new/innovative manufacturing industries that would demand a huge set of engineers. On top of this recent years of power shortages have forced several textile industries to move to Bangladesh and even to the UAE.
Declining economy, power shortages, political dramas, corruption etc. just imagine this and yourself as a job-seeker.

The Pakistanis who are coming to Canada are mostly those who were based in the Middle East or the UK. Secondly, do realize that they applied about 4 years ago before they got drawn out of the pool. Things were somewhat better then.

I know the policy is the policy but in my observation almost all of the people who managed to get to Canada didn't really deserve it as much as those who couldn't. The policy tends to be helping those who are capable of being devious and not the straightforward ones.

I still submit at least a single job application, locally, daily. But having realized the way things are it's always with the least amount of hope.
 

LoneEarthling

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While you're planning all this, why don't you also try and get a job in any NOC code that will give you the requisite work ex?

Your work ex doesn't have to match your educational qualifications - you could, for example, work as a journalist for one year and get the work ex. you need. Or work in IT, or work as a office assistant - there's lots of NOC codes that will make you eligible without being too onerous.

Since you don't care about the salary, career advancement, or anything except holding down a job for one year, it should be a little easier to get a job, right?
Right. Thanks.
 

samuelja

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I can understand that getting the first job can be really very tough at times, but the matter of fact is that we need to get a job(any for that matter) somehow. The reason behind this being, thousands and thousands of graduates are being flown out from reputed colleges every year, this makes the seniors to have a tough competition in the unemployment pool. And to make matters worse, the employers are of the absurd notion that seniors(who don't have a job yet) might demand more than fresh graduates out of college. They are too dumb to understand that both parties want a job at the end of the day regardless of the salary. Please don't think that I have not yet understood the ground reality, trust me I understand the plight that graduates are under nowadays. The sad fact is that you need to have at-least 1-year of experience under your wing. Then you can successfully create your EE profile and it will hold substance as well. And within no time things will start swinging your thing. Wishing you all the very best.
 
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Definitely continue trying to find a job in your home country. The fact you have been unemployed for such a long time may very well create issues in getting a work permit approved for Canada (even if you're successful in securing a job offer and approved LMIA). For a work permit to be approved, CIC does want to see evidence of ties to your home country, that you are just coming to Canada temporarily, and have no plans on remaining in Canada long term. The fact you've been unemployed for three years may unfortunately work against you. Also, I think you'll definitely want to aim for a job in your field or close to your field (rather than any job). Going for a job that's in no way related to your field + the fact you're unemployed will significantly increase the chances of a work permit refusal. Good luck - hope something works out.
 
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