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Serious Problem, Please help! (Asivad, Stanlee)

Siddiquis

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Sep 18, 2015
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Dear All,

Since yesterday evening I am in great stress due to probability of my Canadian PR application (which I am yet to submit) to be rejected due to the following reason, I am writing this email to get prompt appropriate suggestion from you in current scenario, I would really appreciate it.

I earned my Bachelors (BS) Degree in Civil Engineering from Pakistan. My batch was 2005 to 2008 but I was awarded a degree in March 21 2009, and from next month that is April 2009 I have been continuously working in the same profession (NOC 2131).

After BS Degree I took admission in the same university for MS studies (but I do not remember the date when I started, nor do I have any proof to make sure). This was a part time study I took classes after my office (I mentioned “part time” earlier while creating EE profile for the first time) The length of this program was about 2-1/2 years (10 subjects, 2 each in 5 semesters of 6 months). The award date on my degree is April 2014 (in Pakistan, normally degrees are not issued immediately), besides yesterday I found a “provisional certificate” which says I had done with my exams in June 2013.

As a first step when I sent my documents to Comparative Education Service (CES) for Educational Credential assessment (ECA), I entered tentative 2-1/2 years before the award date. I entered July-2011 to Dec-2013. At that time I did not consider it critical, later on I got my ECA done for “Two years MS in recognized university”, and eventually I got nomination from Ontario in Dec 2016.

I came to know that I can’t claim points for my MS Degree. Since nothing like “part time” is written on my degree/transcript, and it overlaps with my work experience (since I mentioned Dec 2013 in ECA form and the date on my degree and ECA is April 2014, and I was in Qatar since 2013).

In fact the tenure I mentioned in a form for ECA (to CES) are wrong tentative dates which overlap with my employment in Qatar (the date on my degree is April 2014, and since Oct 2013 I am in Qatar).
Now the problem is that, in “Personal History” section of the post ITA application the two activities (My MS in Pakistan and Employment in Qatar) overlap.
And I consider It misinterpretation if I change the dates in the eAPR which are contrary to the one I submitted for ECA.


Questions

Should I decline ITA? as misinterpretation may lead to ban for 5 years? I still have 60 more days to submit eAPR.

Is it appropriate to inform CES UoT regarding this blunder? (I don’t know how will they react)

If CES agrees to edit the database I understand that I will have to inform OINP, correct?

I don’t understand why I can’t claim points for my MS, because it was part time and overlap with my all three past employers?

What is wrong with getting degree late? In Pakistan its very normal. Actually I earned my MS before employment in Qatar, my provisional certificate also endorse the fact, and however the problem is mentioning the wrong tentative dates in ECA form.

Now in current scenario please suggest.



Kind Regards,
Saad
 

julientran

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Apr 10, 2016
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Category........
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Nomination.....
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Overlap is not an issue. I did a full time MBA program while working full time as a director.
It is very common in Canada to work full time and pursue a degree at the same time.
Just relax :)
 

nuclearbattery

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Jan 2, 2017
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If you got Canadian equivalence for your Masters, why are you worried about not getting points for it? It doesn't matter if it is part-time if you got the equivalency, no?

While it would have been ideal to enter the date you actually got the certificate, I do not think this would be a huge problem since you have already gotten equivalency for it (remember this has already been vetted by CES) and even if asked, you have the provisional certificate to show for it. I would ensure the education history/personal history ties with the dates on the CES report.

I haven't yet submitted my application but I don't think the overlap would be a problem as long as they are justified. I have overlaps in my personal history too (work plus multiple qualifications). I have set the 'end' date for my qualifications as the date I got the official certificate, btw.
 

Siddiquis

Star Member
Sep 18, 2015
174
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But my country of qualification and work is different, like my MS degree date is April 2014 in Pakistan, whereas i was in Qatar for employment from Oct 2013 onward
 

kryt0n

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Sep 30, 2014
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16-03-2017
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Siddiquis said:
But my country of qualification and work is different, like my MS degree date is April 2014 in Pakistan, whereas i was in Qatar for employment from Oct 2013 onward
So my UK degree is listed as awarded July 2008. My transcript says September 2004-July 2008. Realistically my studies/exams were over in May 2008. I moved and started working in the USA in June 2008. I had the same worry as you, but in my LOE I'll say that the course ran till July however my taken modules had all finished by May 2008.

It's going to be fine!
 

bestofluck

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Aug 11, 2015
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Siddiquis said:
But my country of qualification and work is different, like my MS degree date is April 2014 in Pakistan, whereas i was in Qatar for employment from Oct 2013 onward
If it is not mentioned that the part time was Distance Education it does conflict the work.
 

Siddiquis

Star Member
Sep 18, 2015
174
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kryt0n said:
So my UK degree is listed as awarded July 2008. My transcript says September 2004-July 2008. Realistically my studies/exams were over in May 2008. I moved and started working in the USA in June 2008. I had the same worry as you, but in my LOE I'll say that the course ran till July however my taken modules had all finished by May 2008.

It's going to be fine!

And you are showing the tenure till your graduation date (degree award date) in the eAPR? like my degree awarded in April 2014 (ECA same) so i should mention till 2014? and how about the dates i mentioned in my ECA application form?
 

Siddiquis

Star Member
Sep 18, 2015
174
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bestofluck said:
If it is not mentioned that the part time was Distance Education it does conflict the work.

Even if the countries are different? Degree from Pak and work in Qatar at the same time?
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
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2172
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16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
Siddiquis said:
And you are showing the tenure till your graduation date (degree award date) in the eAPR? like my degree awarded in April 2014 (ECA same) so i should mention till 2014? and how about the dates i mentioned in my ECA application form?
Yes. I will keep my end date as when my transcripts show and just mention in my LOE that the course ran for that time but that my modules had been completed in May.
 

Siddiquis

Star Member
Sep 18, 2015
174
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kryt0n said:
Yes. I will keep my end date as when my transcripts show and just mention in my LOE that the course ran for that time but that my modules had been completed in May.

My program tenure is 2-1/2 years, so the end date will be April 2014, what about the start date? should i go backward 2-1/2 years? and please note that the dates i mentioned in an ECA application will contradict this ..
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
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NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
Siddiquis said:
My program tenure is 2-1/2 years, so the end date will be April 2014, what about the start date? should i go backward 2-1/2 years? and please note that the dates i mentioned in an ECA application will contradict this ..
Well what were the dates you input in pre ITA?
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
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NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
Siddiquis said:
for Masters ECA Application form, i put July 2011 to Dec 2013, cuz actual program was 2-1/2 years
What are the dates on your transcript