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Sending returned application with just the missing document - is it OK?

polara69

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TomTony said:
CIC website says "Applications that were received on or after June 11, 2015 that do not use the latest version of the application will be considered incomplete and will be returned. Incomplete applications that were returned prior to June 11, 2015 must be resubmitted using the new application forms."
Vital lesson learned: Double, triple check your applications for completeness.
 

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TomTony said:
CIC website says "Applications that were received on or after June 11, 2015 that do not use the latest version of the application will be considered incomplete and will be returned. Incomplete applications that were returned prior to June 11, 2015 must be resubmitted using the new application forms."
Agreed. But it still doesn't hurt to try. If CIC returns it again because of the new 4/6 requirement, then so be it.
 

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goodman36 said:
Citizenship Application was returned due to missing 1 document. Letter stated to re-submit application with the missing document (option 1) OR to sign under option 2 to request for refund of fee.

Question: If the application is resent now with the missing document, does the main application form need to be signed again as well as the residence calculator need to revised again OR the original package is still valid? Note that the returned application 1st page has the stamp of the receiving date (which was 1 and half months ago). The total days in Canada was 1130 days when it was sent the 1st time.
Did you call CIC regarding this matter? whats their take on that?
 

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TomTony said:
CIC website says "Applications that were received on or after June 11, 2015 that do not use the latest version of the application will be considered incomplete and will be returned. Incomplete applications that were returned prior to June 11, 2015 must be resubmitted using the new application forms."
keesio said:
Agreed. But it still doesn't hurt to try. If CIC returns it again because of the new 4/6 requirement, then so be it.
If this is what the CIC site says, there is no point in even trying . . . it was a long shot anyway. But it would clearly be a waste of the courier expense to re-submit using the older form.

While I have not personally checked the CIC site for this, it is precisely what was to be expected anyway.
 

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dpenabill said:
If this is what the CIC site says, there is no point in even trying . . . it was a long shot anyway. But it would clearly be a waste of the courier expense to re-submit using the older form.

While I have not personally checked the CIC site for this, it is precisely what was to be expected anyway.
Here is the link:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/adults.asp
 

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dpenabill said:
If this is what the CIC site says, there is no point in even trying . . . it was a long shot anyway. But it would clearly be a waste of the courier expense to re-submit using the older form.

While I have not personally checked the CIC site for this, it is precisely what was to be expected anyway.
“Hope is the last thing a person does before they are completely defeated.” -- By Henry Rollins

There is no harm done in trying, if courier expense is concern, one can always send it through Snail Mail(Canada Post). If accepted, you will save atleast 1 year.

But yeah if one is eligible even with new rules, then should send new forms only, no point in sending old form and wasting lot of time in back n forth.
 

Snowbird12

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I think CIC did say sth but came to real life they would face sth else
So there should be some sort of amendments in order to enforce the new law
No one can say he should apply for a new app even though it was mentioned
Because it's sth new no one knows
So he has a letter , he should answer that letter he received with requested docs and wait for their reply
finger crossed and will watch the truth
No predictable opinions
 

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goodman36,
All people that have responded have good intentions but max they can do is speculate and NOT predict.
Honestly no one is in a position to judge what will CIC treat this as.
I think you should sign on Option 1 and take your chances.
If you sign on Option 2, you will, by default, fall under the new rule 4/6.

I consider that letter a request (command) from CIC asking you for your approval on a path our of two. And you picked Option 1. CIC has only asked for the "MISSING DOCUMENT". If they needed anything else (application form, residence calculator), they would have asked for it.
Follow exactly what CIC has asked you to do and not worry about courier charges etc - small price to pay in my opinion.

Hope this helps!

Plus

goodman36 said:
Citizenship Application was returned due to missing 1 document. Letter stated to re-submit application with the missing document (option 1) OR to sign under option 2 to request for refund of fee.

Question: If the application is resent now with the missing document, does the main application form need to be signed again as well as the residence calculator need to revised again OR the original package is still valid? Note that the returned application 1st page has the stamp of the receiving date (which was 1 and half months ago). The total days in Canada was 1130 days when it was sent the 1st time.
 

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plus said:
All people that have responded have good intentions but max they can do is speculate and NOT predict.
I would strongly disagree. We've seen this time and time again with all sort of applications sent to CIC (citizenship, immigration, PR renewal). A returned application is treated as a new application when it is received by CIC again. Your date is only locked in if CIC requests missing/additional information without returning your whole application package. How CIC treats returned applications has been consistent time and time again. We are not speculating. We are stating what we have seen CIC consistently do again and again over many years.

If CIC accepts this citizenship application using the original submission date - this would be a massive departure from normal / established CIC practices.
 

Snowbird12

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plus said:
goodman36,
All people that have responded have good intentions but max they can do is speculate and NOT predict.
Honestly no one is in a position to judge what will CIC treat this as.
I think you should sign on Option 1 and take your chances.
If you sign on Option 2, you will, by default, fall under the new rule 4/6.

I consider that letter a request (command) from CIC asking you for your approval on a path our of two. And you picked Option 1. CIC has only asked for the "MISSING DOCUMENT". If they needed anything else (application form, residence calculator), they would have asked for it.
Follow exactly what CIC has asked you to do and not worry about courier charges etc - small price to pay in my opinion.

Hope this helps!

Plus
Completely agree
No One is in a position to judge
 

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plus said:
goodman36,
All people that have responded have good intentions but max they can do is speculate and NOT predict.
Honestly no one is in a position to judge what will CIC treat this as.
I think you should sign on Option 1 and take your chances.
If you sign on Option 2, you will, by default, fall under the new rule 4/6.

I consider that letter a request (command) from CIC asking you for your approval on a path our of two. And you picked Option 1. CIC has only asked for the "MISSING DOCUMENT". If they needed anything else (application form, residence calculator), they would have asked for it.
Follow exactly what CIC has asked you to do and not worry about courier charges etc - small price to pay in my opinion.

Hope this helps!

Plus
As I read it, the two options are based only on what you want to do with the pre-paid fees.

1) Use the existing payment to submit the new application
2) Request the repayment of the fee because you are not going to submit a new application.

They are nothing to do with fixing up an incomplete application.