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armoured

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Yes, it's unclear, I wonder if she gets approved for TRV, are we still meet the eligibility of conjugal? It's confusing....
Yeah, that part is a bit paradoxical, almost definitional in the conjugal definition. My guess is that they'll eventually approach in common sense way, that if they approve the TRV it is for purposes of family reunification and to expedite the program and therefore NOT invalidate the conjugal application.

That said, it's just early, and again - to date, not even clear that it technically applies to conjugal apps (but I caution I didn't read the announcement super closely to parse out this particular issue) - as with so much of the announcement, what matters far more than the wording is the application and administration of what they announced. 'Wait and see' really.
 

Jvisa

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Yeah, that part is a bit paradoxical, almost definitional in the conjugal definition. My guess is that they'll eventually approach in common sense way, that if they approve the TRV it is for purposes of family reunification and to expedite the program and therefore NOT invalidate the conjugal application.

That said, it's just early, and again - to date, not even clear that it technically applies to conjugal apps (but I caution I didn't read the announcement super closely to parse out this particular issue) - as with so much of the announcement, what matters far more than the wording is the application and administration of what they announced. 'Wait and see' really.
Thanks, I prepare and submit our immigration documents first. Do you have any tips or suggestions for our materials? just in case I missed some of the important points for the officer.
 

armoured

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Thanks, I prepare and submit our immigration documents first. Do you have any tips or suggestions for our materials? just in case I missed some of the important points for the officer.
Mainly just follow the checklist, and check it several times.
 

Wildbeauty

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Hello everyone, conjugal partner (my sponsor) received mail that he’s elegible as a sponsor ircc sent me a medical exam I’ve done it yesterday. Is that a good sign? Also my biometric is completed and BG - in progress and eligibilty - not started. What’s next step, did anybody know somethig I appriciate it and thanks a lot everyone!
 
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armoured

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Hello everyone, conjugal partner (my sponsor) received mail that he’s elegible as a sponsor ircc sent me a medical exam I’ve done it yesterday. Is that a good sign? Also my biometric is completed and BG - in progress and eligibilty - not started. What’s next step, did anybody know somethig I appriciate it and thanks a lot everyone!
It is positive in that the application was accepted as complete (not sent back for errors) and the sponsor passed, yes. The sponsor-accepted and related communications is also referred to as AOR (ackonwledgement of receipt).

But this is early stages and doesn't say much about how later stages will be or how long they will take. Starting point for expectations should be the full time period IRCC advertises for recent apps (i.e. 12 months + from date of application received).

Be prepared, this is the longest part of the process - just waiting - and during which there is usually very little communication from IRCC.

You can order GCMS notes if you wish - which at this point would usually contain no more than a short paragraph of summary/preliminary analysis by a junior officer. It may contain a point or two that need to be checked. It can occasionally (or perhaps rarely) be useful. Personally I would do so because it MIGHT provide info on whether their initial analysis is that you (appear to) meet the conjugal program requirements - but I have not seen anyone do so or provide the text from that summary paragraph.

You should also look at the new policy on providing TRVs to spouses. You can apply under that, and, if granted, come to Canada and apply for a work permit while you wait for the PR to be finalized.

Warning though - this policy is new and very little experience on how frequently visas will be granted. As far as I read it, it is not yet clear whether it even applies to conjugal cases (because not 'spouses' in the formal sense). For that reason you might want to wait a bit and see how it gets applied (but read up on the policy and follow what others report).

Good luck.
 
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It is positive in that the application was accepted as complete (not sent back for errors) and the sponsor passed, yes. The sponsor-accepted and related communications is also referred to as AOR (ackonwledgement of receipt).

But this is early stages and doesn't say much about how later stages will be or how long they will take. Starting point for expectations should be the full time period IRCC advertises for recent apps (i.e. 12 months + from date of application received).

Be prepared, this is the longest part of the process - just waiting - and during which there is usually very little communication from IRCC.

You can order GCMS notes if you wish - which at this point would usually contain no more than a short paragraph of summary/preliminary analysis by a junior officer. It may contain a point or two that need to be checked. It can occasionally (or perhaps rarely) be useful. Personally I would do so because it MIGHT provide info on whether their initial analysis is that you (appear to) meet the conjugal program requirements - but I have not seen anyone do so or provide the text from that summary paragraph.

You should also look at the new policy on providing TRVs to spouses. You can apply under that, and, if granted, come to Canada and apply for a work permit while you wait for the PR to be finalized.

Warning though - this policy is new and very little experience on how frequently visas will be granted. As far as I read it, it is not yet clear whether it even applies to conjugal cases (because not 'spouses' in the formal sense). For that reason you might want to wait a bit and see how it gets applied (but read up on the policy and follow what others report).

Good luck.
If I may add, another thing to consider about applying for TRV is if you will be required for an interview, the interview is going to be held in the home country of the principal applicant.
 

Wildbeauty

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It is positive in that the application was accepted as complete (not sent back for errors) and the sponsor passed, yes. The sponsor-accepted and related communications is also referred to as AOR (ackonwledgement of receipt).

But this is early stages and doesn't say much about how later stages will be or how long they will take. Starting point for expectations should be the full time period IRCC advertises for recent apps (i.e. 12 months + from date of application received).

Be prepared, this is the longest part of the process - just waiting - and during which there is usually very little communication from IRCC.

You can order GCMS notes if you wish - which at this point would usually contain no more than a short paragraph of summary/preliminary analysis by a junior officer. It may contain a point or two that need to be checked. It can occasionally (or perhaps rarely) be useful. Personally I would do so because it MIGHT provide info on whether their initial analysis is that you (appear to) meet the conjugal program requirements - but I have not seen anyone do so or provide the text from that summary paragraph.

You should also look at the new policy on providing TRVs to spouses. You can apply under that, and, if granted, come to Canada and apply for a work permit while you wait for the PR to be finalized.

Warning though - this policy is new and very little experience on how frequently visas will be granted. As far as I read it, it is not yet clear whether it even applies to conjugal cases (because not 'spouses' in the formal sense). For that reason you might want to wait a bit and see how it gets applied (but read up on the policy and follow what others report).

Good luck.
Thank you a lot. My visitor visa was refused in January, but my lovely partner was with me this for 3 weeks max, so I can wait for my PR haha. Anyway we proceed conjugal application March 25 and I hope so is gonna be little fast because already waiting for 4 months.
 

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Thank you a lot. My visitor visa was refused in January, but my lovely partner was with me this for 3 weeks max, so I can wait for my PR haha. Anyway we proceed conjugal application March 25 and I hope so is gonna be little fast because already waiting for 4 months.
As mentioned, you should be prepared to wait for more than a few months. Conjugal sponsorship applications take more time, unfortunately.
 
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Wildbeauty

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As mentioned, you should be prepared to wait for more than a few months. Conjugal sponsorship applications take more time, unfortunately.
No problem. Thank you. I have ghost updates on my application and most important thing I passed medical today!
 

canuck78

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No problem. Thank you. I have ghost updates on my application and most important thing I passed medical today!
Would warn you that things appear to be moving fast at the beginning the next part of the process is the longest with no updates usually for many months if not longer. Conjugal applicants tend to take longer than the 1 year processing. If you have ongoing proof of your relationship like other visits during the sponsorship process ( a citizen can leave the country during sponsorship while a PR can take short vacations from Canada) you should send the proof via webform
 
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Wildbeauty

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Would warn you that things appear to be moving fast at the beginning the next part of the process is the longest with no updates usually for many months if not longer. Conjugal applicants tend to take longer than the 1 year processing. If you have ongoing proof of your relationship like other visits during the sponsorship process ( a citizen can leave the country during sponsorship while a PR can take short vacations from Canada) you should send the proof via webform
Thanks a lot, very useful advice!
 

Wildbeauty

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Just to inform you, yesterday application has been updated, medical to complete.
-background check is in progress
-eligibility don’t started yet.
 

armoured

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Just to inform you, yesterday application has been updated, medical to complete.
-background check is in progress
-eligibility don’t started yet.
Both of those lines - background check and eligibility - are not good predictors of what's going on, and I wouldn't pay attention to them. If they have some meaning, it's a database meaning that does not mean what humans think.
 

Wildbeauty

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Both of those lines - background check and eligibility - are not good predictors of what's going on, and I wouldn't pay attention to them. If they have some meaning, it's a database meaning that does not mean what humans think.
Appriciated on answer.
 

LutzS

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Well in Asia the only jurisdiction I know of is Taiwan, then Europe, and most of the americas. But I don't know how difficult to get visas to those countries nor how difficult to get married as non-resdients.

But do start preparing and collecting files, not all conjugal take very long. You can decide as you get docs collected and prepared.
Well, for Taiwan you will only get legal marriage papers id one of you is Taiwanese citizen. There is indeed no Asian country where you can get married as same sex couple. We are in a very similar situation. My boyfriend is from the Philippines and got 2x TRV rejected. We are planning on going with conjugal sponsorship as a last resort...
 
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