Refused Twice, Now Received AIP Today

[getsthingsdone]

Whatever the reason, that should have been evaluated at the AIP stage, that is what the AIP is for. Had he received no AIP, they could have saved on valuable tuition fee.

 

[getsthingsdone]

Hi,

I am sorry to hear this. But no need to panic, basically your brother made the same mistake like me. Changing program is not the solution, but changing the level of study is going to get your through the next time. Since your brother has already completed his under grad & has 4 years of work exp, he should definitely go for a masters degree but if you think the fees is very high or unable to find a suitable program, then he should go for a post grad level of program (like an Ontario Graduate Certificate).

I will suggest him to choose a program which is related to his past work experience & draft an exemplary SOP (clearly explaining how the chosen program is going to benefit him in excelling in his profession. Talk about your family ties and why he would return back to India. Talk about the vast job opportunities in that field. Show strong family ties- saving funds, property documents, FD, etc)

I changed the program, but I had work experience in that field so it worked out for me.

I am in your bucket. I will do what you did.

 

[Ruby90]

Whatever the reason, that should have been evaluated at the AIP stage, that is what the AIP is for. Had he received no AIP, they could have saved on valuable tuition fee.

Exactly. We had paid full tuition fee. He had to take 8 courses to finish the program of which he already completed 5 of them. We could have saved this time and money, had they rejected it at the AIP stage.

 

[Ruby90]

Thank you for your kind reply.
What i also don’t understand is why a student has to show strong ties to home country. If students are supposed to go back to their home country, why are there options of work permit. A student invested in Canadian education so they would try to secure a job in canada itself and why is it even wrong? Don’t this country need skilled workers? Whats the point of express entry then? Sorry for venting out here. It all doesn’t make sense to me right now.

 

[jweekend]

Thank you for your kind reply.
What i also don’t understand is why a student has to show strong ties to home country. If students are supposed to go back to their home country, why are there options of work permit. A student invested in Canadian education so they would try to secure a job in canada itself and why is it even wrong? Don’t this country need skilled workers? Whats the point of express entry then? Sorry for venting out here. It all doesn’t make sense to me right now.

The applicant has to satisfy the conditions of the study permit, which is to leave Canada after the temporary stay.

After you complete your studies and apply for a pgwp is irrelevant to the study permit application, because there's no guarantee that you will be eligible for a pgwp.

 

[Simmidas]

Thank you for your kind reply.
What i also don’t understand is why a student has to show strong ties to home country. If students are supposed to go back to their home country, why are there options of work permit. A student invested in Canadian education so they would try to secure a job in canada itself and why is it even wrong? Don’t this country need skilled workers? Whats the point of express entry then? Sorry for venting out here. It all doesn’t make sense to me right now.

@Ruby90 , immediately raise a webform for a reconsideration request. You will find YouTube videos on how to raise a reconsideration.

Attach the enrollment documents, gradesheet, Tution fees receipt, AIP document and a Letter of explanation and explain the situation that this program has been pursued only after receiving AIP and so on...

If reconsideration does not work, then contact any immigration lawyer as your case in very unique. Ideally a rejection post AIP should not happen that too when the reason is for program selection. This should get filter initially itself. So try to consult someone and see if you can get help.

 

[getsthingsdone]

Thank you for your kind reply.
What i also don’t understand is why a student has to show strong ties to home country. If students are supposed to go back to their home country, why are there options of work permit. A student invested in Canadian education so they would try to secure a job in canada itself and why is it even wrong? Don’t this country need skilled workers? Whats the point of express entry then? Sorry for venting out here. It all doesn’t make sense to me right now.

I asked one reputed iccrc consultant the same question and he told me this.

India is a country where you need to satisfy
1. Study permit conditions
2. Temporary Resident Visa conditions

When they say "not satisfied will leave Canada" they basically mean that the applicant maybe using the visa to enter the country and never leave the country. That would come under TRV.

I personally think that is pure baloney, but the Canadian visa authorities are now in a position of power. They have demand far exceeding supply and that is the reason for this callous attitude towards students.

Your case is really saddening. I received a direct refusal but you got AIP and then got refused.

I hope that reconsideration thing works out as someone recommended.

 

[Maybe tommorow]

Exactly. We had paid full tuition fee. He had to take 8 courses to finish the program of which he already completed 5 of them. We could have saved this time and money, had they rejected it at the AIP stage.

You can get rejected on eligibility bases even after receiving AIP, as mentioned on the official website.

The reasons for your refusals are too many to guess the exact one. Unfortunately, you're going to have to wait for the notes and Jan isn't happening even if you reapplied today

 

[Naturgrl]

Thank you for the reply. But, university website clearly says that this program is for you if you’re looking for a mid-career opportunity to enhance your professional expertise and want to prepare himself for the leadership roles in the company. The program teaches courses related to business administration and data analytics. It is the only program that provides MBA related exposure but in affordable fees.

Yes, the website states that but it is the continuing education department. You don‘t even need a university degree or college diploma for admissions. Anyone who graduates high school can attend so it is affordable. So there really is no admissions. He should have applied for a post graduate program where a degree or diploma are the admission requirements. Not true that it is the only program that provides MBA exposure. This certificate is not MBA exposure. Think of it as an extension of high school. There are business programs at the post graduate level in universities and colleges (not MBA) so yes it will cost twice as much. Unfortunately he made a poor choice in programs.

 

[Naturgrl]

@Ruby90 , immediately raise a webform for a reconsideration request. You will find YouTube videos on how to raise a reconsideration.

Attach the enrollment documents, gradesheet, Tution fees receipt, AIP document and a Letter of explanation and explain the situation that this program has been pursued only after receiving AIP and so on...

If reconsideration does not work, then contact any immigration lawyer as your case in very unique. Ideally a rejection post AIP should not happen that too when the reason is for program selection. This should get filter initially itself. So try to consult someone and see if you can get help.

He applied for a certificate program that has no admissions standards (only high school). He should have applied for a post graduate business program at a university or college. Instead he chose a continuing education program that is cheaper because anyone can attend.

 

[Azumbu]

Please I need your help. My visa application was denied twice. My first denial was based on fours reasons that is purpose of visit , family ties, employment in country of residence and travel history. I addressed all these concerns.
Now they just responded to my second application with only ONE Reason which is purpose of visit. I'm really confuse on what to do now becuase my 3 years diploma program is resuming January 8 and I'm wondering if I should reapply or not. Pls I need you candid advice!!!

 

[Naturgrl]

Please I need your help. My visa application was denied twice. My first denial was based on fours reasons that is purpose of visit , family ties, employment in country of residence and travel history. I addressed all these concerns.
Now they just responded to my second application with only ONE Reason which is purpose of visit. I'm really confuse on what to do now becuase my 3 years diploma program is resuming January 8 and I'm wondering if I should reapply or not. Pls I need you candid advice!!!

Order GCMS notes to see full reasons. Defer as you will not get an approval in one month.

 

[TFTXMJ]

@Ruby90 Don't waste time arguing with that guy, he does nothing to help but tries hard to depress others. When I ordered GCMS I found the eligibility was " Recommend Interview" so I asked about that with a new thread in which he replied saying like a expert that I was in queue of being rejected and would be informed. All he wants is making you feel uncomfortable. But sorry buddy @Ironclad , I was informed that I was approved.

 

[Maybe tommorow]

@Ruby90 Don't waste time arguing with that guy, he does nothing to help but tries hard to depress others. When I ordered GCMS I found the eligibility was " Recommend Interview" so I asked about that with a new thread in which he replied saying like a expert that I was in queue of being rejected and would be informed. All he wants is making you feel uncomfortable. But sorry buddy @Ironclad , I was informed that I was approved.

Yeah that user trolls %90 of the time. Some weird mindsets in this site

 

[Ironclad]

@Ruby90 Don't waste time arguing with that guy, he does nothing to help but tries hard to depress others. When I ordered GCMS I found the eligibility was " Recommend Interview" so I asked about that with a new thread in which he replied saying like a expert that I was in queue of being rejected and would be informed. All he wants is making you feel uncomfortable. But sorry buddy @Ironclad , I was informed that I was approved.

Married Chinese population is the last thing Canada wants, S1 visa is designed for youngsters with good grades (like me). Why are you immigrating to Canada at this point using S1 in your life instead of choosing EE ? Hope you succeed in finding a job, employers are smart these days when it comes to hiring. You are too old for this.