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Perhaps I missed something but I don't see any reference here to the individual having obtained/lost citizenship.
You are right. Should have just said it's a case linked to cessation. Cessation happens before citizenship.
 
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Borderlines podcast / youtube episode on cessation:
https://borderlines.ca/132-cessation-of-refugee-protected-person-status-with-doug-cannon/

I think it's quite interesting from a policy perspective (short form: this is a crazy policy/application of policy that serves little purpose, costs tons of money [to government], results in very few actual removals, and out of all proportion to any plausible 'benefit' of discouraging fraudulent refugee claims, and at great human cost to the individuals caught in this, etc). Unfortunately, it being a poorly thought-out policy does not mean it's going to be stopped (at least any time soon).

But also because the lawyer, Doug Cannon, seems one of the very few lawyers that is actually specializing in cessation cases. Perhaps that contact and/or info in this podcast can help some here.

There is also some info about specifics. Mostly for practical purposes the main lesson should be "don't do the three things that lead to cessation: renew/apply for home country passport, use home country passport, travel to home country" and "get citizenship as soon as possible (IF you haven't done any of these three things)."

Apparently there is a court case in process where applicants are using Charter of Rights claims to try to get the use of this quashed (at least in current usage/practice). I have no idea of prospects for this case, strongly advise that no-one rely upon it.
Meant to add: the show notes include a few links, but noticeably this article by Mr. Cannon, about the issue - for those that prefer reading to podcasts and youtube.

https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/doc/2023CanLIIDocs405

(Annoyingly you have to scroll to page 41 so it's not that convenient esp on phones etc).

This link might be better/easier to access with less scrolling: https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/doc/2023CanLIIDocs405#Cessation_of_Refugee_Protection_in_the_LA_Failure_of_Principle____Douglas_Cannon
 

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Here is a message of hope for all those whose cases are stuck in a limbo for whatever reasons:

Applied for citizenship in 2015. Passed the citizenship test and having met all the requirements waited for the Oath Ceremony.
For 6 years, nothing. Nada. Rien. Not a word from any CIC or any other office. MP, GCM notes, ATIPS.. nothing worked.
7th year, I receive a Cessation Application by CBSA under 1 (a). IRB rejected CBSA application. CBSA went to the Federal court for review. Federal court returned the case to IRB with instructions to hear the case ONLY under I (e). CBSA gave in. Case closed under 1 (e) , 2 months ago.

It took 10 years, gave me hypertension and diabetes but I didn't give in.

Now waiting for DM and oath. Hope that the ordeal ends soon. :)

Never give in. Do your homework. Stand your ground. Give it all you have.

Any ideas as to how push for the DM and Oath now please !!!
 

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Here is a message of hope for all those whose cases are stuck in a limbo for whatever reasons:

Applied for citizenship in 2015. Passed the citizenship test and having met all the requirements waited for the Oath Ceremony.
For 6 years, nothing. Nada. Rien. Not a word from any CIC or any other office. MP, GCM notes, ATIPS.. nothing worked.
7th year, I receive a Cessation Application by CBSA under 1 (a). IRB rejected CBSA application. CBSA went to the Federal court for review. Federal court returned the case to IRB with instructions to hear the case ONLY under I (e). CBSA gave in. Case closed under 1 (e) , 2 months ago.

It took 10 years, gave me hypertension and diabetes but I didn't give in.

Now waiting for DM and oath. Hope that the ordeal ends soon. :)

Never give in. Do your homework. Stand your ground. Give it all you have.

Any ideas as to how push for the DM and Oath now please !!!
Thank you for updating. Please keep sharing updates and good luck.
 

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New case although something a bit different. Stay an order of removal for someone who lost citizenship as a result of cessation:

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2024/2024canlii106280/2024canlii106280.html
While this case, Okeleke v. Canada (Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness), 2024 CanLII 106280 (FC), here https://canlii.ca/t/k7n1s
is related to cessation it is a post-cessation, after the loss of PR status case.

A few of these situations have been referenced in this topic. But that is really more about the process involved in actually removing inadmissible Foreign Nationals, and about the pre-removal procedure in particular.

There are two distinct tangents. One is the post-cessation process itself, and the other is the Removal process more generally, including the pre-removal risk assessment. Frankly those subjects are more suited to the part of the forum where refugee matters are discussed generally. The problem is that gets into way, way more complicated stuff well outside the scope of citizenship issues.

To be clear, once a cessation determination is made based on reavailment, unless set aside by the Federal Court and then, in turn, the RPD on reconsideration dismisses the proceeding for cessation, the individual is NOT a PR, and NOT eligible for citizenship.

Moreover, based on the discussion in the podcast that @armoured references and links, it appears that citizenship applications are triggering cessation cases, that IRCC is screening the travel history of applicants who are PR-refugees and initiating cessation investigations if the PR-refugee has used a home country passport for travel (not clear whether that is typically limited to where the travel was to the home country). . . which can take five or six years. Since the FCA ruled that citizenship applications can be suspended during this time, it would clearly be a mistake for any PR-refugee to apply for citizenship if they have traveled using their home country passport within the five years they must report in the physical presence calculation. Best they can do is wait long enough to apply they will not need to list any travel using the home country passport.


Borderlines podcast / youtube episode on cessation:
https://borderlines.ca/132-cessation-of-refugee-protected-person-status-with-doug-cannon/

I think it's quite interesting from a policy perspective (short form: this is a crazy policy/application of policy that serves little purpose, costs tons of money [to government], results in very few actual removals, and out of all proportion to any plausible 'benefit' of discouraging fraudulent refugee claims, and at great human cost to the individuals caught in this, etc). Unfortunately, it being a poorly thought-out policy does not mean it's going to be stopped (at least any time soon).

But also because the lawyer, Doug Cannon, seems one of the very few lawyers that is actually specializing in cessation cases. Perhaps that contact and/or info in this podcast can help some here.
I was very impressed with Doug Cannon. And his presentation in the podcast was very good, very illuminating.

That said, he is prone to advocacy overstatement, as zealous advocates tend to be. (He even admits that the article by him you reference and link in another post is more or less a rant . . . and indeed, his presentation in the podcast is far more informative than the article.) I totally agree with his criticisms of how cessation is applied to Permanent Residents, and what he criticizes was indeed a big factor in why I started this topic nearly a decade ago.

In regards to the advocate's tendency to overstate an argument, based on the statistics Meurrens referenced and other sources, it is unlikely that there are as few removals as Cannon suggests. Moreover, he suggested that up to three-fourths of the cessation cases involve individuals who will be able to avoid removal (such as those who can be sponsored for PR by a spouse, those who cannot be deported because they are from a country Canada has a moratorium on deporting people to, like Iran and Afghanistan), leaving one-fourth subject to removal. Even if that is not an advocacy-elevated perspective, I would not say that one-fourth plus (the plus due to not everyone who could potentially succeed in fighting removal will be able to do so, particularly given the logistics and costs involved) means that cessation "results in very few actual removals."

There is also some info about specifics. Mostly for practical purposes the main lesson should be "don't do the three things that lead to cessation: renew/apply for home country passport, use home country passport, travel to home country" and "get citizenship as soon as possible (IF you haven't done any of these three things)."
That's the gist of what this topic is about. And I repeat it often. For PR-refugees:
  • do not renew or obtain home country passport
  • do not use home country passport for travel
  • do not travel to the home country,
  • only travel with refugee travel document
But as you comment, he also emphasizes getting citizenship as soon as possible BUT not applying for citizenship if you have obtained a passport or used it, and especially not if you have traveled to the home country. And this is important. I suspected this but had no source to confirm it until listening to the part of the discussion in which Deanna Okun-Nachoff and Cannon discuss this in particular.


Apparently there is a court case in process where applicants are using Charter of Rights claims to try to get the use of this quashed (at least in current usage/practice). I have no idea of prospects for this case, strongly advise that no-one rely upon it.
I have discussed the Charter Challenges raised in the Gnanapragasam and Slepcsik in numerous posts above, including the following back in May:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/refugee-status-cessation-and-prs-applying-for-citizenship.333455/page-60

and likewise have strongly suggested that no one rely on that to save them.

Note that Gnanapragasam is actually no longer part of the challenge since very similar to (if not the case) described by @xotica . . . Gnanapragasam getting a determination of cessation based on 108(1)(e) IRPA, which is the one ground for cessation that does not result in the automatic termination of PR status, rendering that case moot. I would caution that despite the success of the argument that cessation should be under this provision, and not under reavailment for example, for Gnanapragasam and for @xotica (assuming it is not the same case), generally the RPD (based on Cannon's presentation) and the Federal Courts (based on a number of FC cases I cite in pages above and affirmed by Cannon's comments) reject this.
 
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I was very impressed with Doug Cannon. And his presentation in the podcast was very good, very illuminating.

That said, he is prone to advocacy overstatement, as zealous advocates tend to be.
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In regards to the advocate's tendency to overstate an argument, based on the statistics Meurrens referenced and other sources, it is unlikely that there are as few removals as Cannon suggests.
...I would not say that one-fourth plus (the plus due to not everyone who could potentially succeed in fighting removal will be able to do so, particularly given the logistics and costs involved) means that cessation "results in very few actual removals."
I think the phrasing 'very few actual removals' was my misformulation, not Cannon's (to be fair to him). I believe what I meant was few removals when balanced against the cost, time, and potential policy 'benefit'. But that 'public policy lens' should not be used as a guideline to acceptable risk.

So to reiterate: for any PR/protected person, any statement that the numbers of actual removals is 'low' (it's not actually that small a number) should be discounted heavily, given the severity of the consequences. And as a post elsewhere in this thread notes: even 'winning' by fighting off removal or cessation if IRCC decides to pursue the matter means a VERY unpleasant and lengthy period of uncertainty. Don't risk it.
 
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Some further observations:

There are two additional cessation decisions recently published by the Federal Court not mentioned here so far, and in both the RPD determination of cessation was set aside.

Azmat v. Canada, 2024 FC 1725, https://canlii.ca/t/k7lkc (decided October 30, 2024)​
Singh v. Canada, 2024 FC 1662, https://canlii.ca/t/k7fck (decided October 22, 2024)​

That probably looks like good news to some.

And either or both of these cases could go similar to how it went for others like @xotica where the RPD's reconsideration resulted in a decision that does not determine cessation of status on any of the grounds resulting in the automatic termination of PR status (either no reavailment, for lack of intent or voluntariness, or as in the Gnanapragasam and the @xotica cases cessation based on 108(1)e) which does not result in the loss of PR status).

There is, however, NO guarantee that either Azmat or Singh will get a favourable outcome, one that does not result in the loss of PR status when the RPD reconsiders their respective cases.

Which brings this back to the Borderlines podcast session with Douglas Cannon. And first the statistics that Steven Meurrens referenced. There was a big spike in cessation cases in 2019 that has not been matched as yet, but since the following year there has been a steady increase in cessation cases from year to year. And according to Meurrens, in 85 to 90 percent of the cases the RPD concludes cessation of status. Cannon, Meurrens, and Deanna Okun-Nachoff all seemed to concur in the view that the Canadian government is continuing to get more aggressive in pursuing cessation . . . despite how counter-productive and inconsistent it is with general immigration policies . . . and a very important aspect of this is the extent to which CBSA border officials screening returning PR-refugees, in addition to IRCC officials processing PR card applications and citizenship applications, are focused on identifying potential cessation cases.

Their demeanor indicated certainty in the assessment that travel using a home country passport is screened for PR card applicants as well as citizenship applicants (those who are PR-refugees).

Meanwhile the one-trip home cases definitely signal Port-of-Entry scrutiny. What we see in the published decisions, however, is still dominated by older cessation cases. The Azmat case I cite above, for example, is a one-trip home case, dating back to a trip in early 2017.

In regards to efforts to persuade the RPD that if they find cessation that should be done pursuant to section 108(1)(e) IRPA, not reavailment, which would allow the PR-refugee to keep PR status, I am not sure but in addressing this it may have been the Taji v. Canada, 2023 FC 1587, https://canlii.ca/t/k1f24 decision that Cannon was referring to. That was one of Cannon's wins (and maybe overlooked here, even though thanks to @scylla catching most new cessation cases we have seen most if not nearly all) based on an argument that the RPD should have considered cessation under section 108(1)(e) IRPA, not reavailment. Despite that win just last year, in the podcast Cannon characterized the section 108(1)(e) IRPA defense as rarely succeeding before the RPD or other Federal Courts (noting again, nonetheless, that the Gnanapragasam and the @xotica are cases illustrating success on this issue).

All this reinforces and reiterates how important it is that PR-refugees get the message: do not get a home country passport, do not use a home country passport, and absolutely do not travel to the home country. Not until they are Canadian citizens.

But over and above that, a big part of what Cannon was saying in the podcast, and @armoured focused some on this, was about the heavy cost paid by those who go through cessation proceedings regardless the outcome, and a heavy bureaucratic cost as well which is ultimately borne by all Canadians. And for what? In the Azmat case I cite above he had been in Canada well over two years (compare that to the scores of other PRs who do a "soft landing") before taking one trip home for 26 days because his sister was getting married and his mother's health included her compelling need to see him, when he had a Canadian PR card with which he could get back on a plane to return to Canada (like any other PR) . . . which hardly suggests there was fraud in the refugee claim or that this shows an intent to in fact reavail home country protection.

Why would just one trip home warrant such an effort to strip a Canadian PR of status?

Meanwhile there is a more recent (than Cannon's piece) CARL law review article about cessation, from early this year the articles is titled "Challenging The Loss Of Permanent Resident Status Resulting From Cessation Of Refugee Protection" and it is by Karo Dupuis and Hélène Mayrand. I think it can be found here: https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/doc/2024CanLIIDocs438#!fragment/zoupio-_Toc3Page20/ (copy and paste if link does not work)

This is less readable than Cannon's, in a far more-for-lawyers format, but it address specific issues and cites relevant case law, so it is a good resource . . . except it is a little dated already, given the status of what had been the Gnanapragasam charter challenge.
 
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Hello all, please I have a question. If you apply for refugee but got denied at all levels, later got permanent residency through humanitarian and compassionate grounds, requested CBSA for seized home country passports, renew passports two years later, travel for vacation to a different country ( not home country), apply for citizenship, all steps completed after interview with IRCC official. Almost three months after, prohibition changed from completed to in progress, should I be worried about cessation? Thank you in advance for your response
 

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Hello all, please I have a question. If you apply for refugee but got denied at all levels, later got permanent residency through humanitarian and compassionate grounds, requested CBSA for seized home country passports, renew passports two years later, travel for vacation to a different country ( not home country), apply for citizenship, all steps completed after interview with IRCC official. Almost three months after, prohibition changed from completed to in progress, should I be worried about cessation? Thank you in advance for your response
Assuming you became a PR pursuant to the H&C procedure, most likely you are not at risk of cessation. However, that depends on how YOU actually became a Canadian PR. (I do not know much about the H&C PR stream, and cannot say let alone affirm you became a PR based on an H&C application.)

PRs who are not refugees, who do not have protected person status, are not at risk of cessation of refugee or protected person status because they do not have such status to begin with. You cannot lose or have taken away a status you do not have.

Cessation is the termination of refugee or protected person status, not PR status. The termination of PR status is a collateral, separate operation of law. It is, however, an automatic consequence resulting from the cessation of refugee or protected person status.

Thus, again, if you obtained your PR status as a result of an H&C application for PR, the cessation provisions should have no impact on your status.

Notwithstanding that, it is my impression that PRs who obtained status pursuant to the H&C process can be at higher risk for elevated background/security screening similar to what many PR-refugees encounter, which can delay the citizenship grant process. This is probably in large part due to the nature of the individual's personal history, including in particular geographical locations (there tends to be increased cause to more closely screen people from certain parts of the world, especially conflict zones). So YOUR particular background and history, where you have lived, whatever political affiliations you have had, and of course the nature and duration of your travels, can influence the nature and scope of background screening and how long that takes if it involves non-routine processing.
 
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@scylla -- Your updates referencing new Federal Court decisions involving cessation of refugee status are always appreciated.

FC cessation decisions these days generally offer little or no new information about who, when, or why the Canadian government proceeds with cessation actions, with no indication of changes in policy or practices, no hint of refining let alone revising the applicable law. In effect, no news, just a continuing illustration that those refugees who obtain a home country passport and use it to travel to the home country are very much at risk of losing status in Canada; this includes refugees who are PRs, including PRs who are otherwise eligible for citizenship.

But taking note of these cases continues to be important. They represent a profound inconsistency in the underlying policies of Canadian immigration law and practice, and unfortunately reveal a level of callous inhumanity that really should be rectified. Recognizing this serious flaw in Canadian immigration law and practice is not to condemn or reject the overall Canadian immigration system. NOT at all. While perfection is a worthwhile objective, no one should expect let alone demand perfection. I certainly don't (would be even more difficult, more than it is as is, to look in the mirror if perfection was my standard).

Additionally it is important to take note of these cases in order to reinforce the message, the caution, that no matter how safe it might be to return to the home country to visit, that even relatively short visits for a family funeral or to visit an ill family member can (and for most quite likely will) lead to the loss of status in Canada.

These last three cases linked by @scylla --
Ahmed v. Canada (Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness), 2024 FC 1973, https://canlii.ca/t/k87xx
Kumar v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2024 FC 1992, https://canlii.ca/t/k8952
Baingana v. Canada (Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness), 2024 FC 1991, https://canlii.ca/t/k8955

As @scylla noted, the first of these, the Ahmed decision by Justice Aylen, is a post-cessation case regarding the former PR's unsuccessful efforts to challenge a Departure Order (albeit hardly any effort at all: no lawyer, not responding to notices or requests, not showing up for the hearing). Not much to see here . . . other than it is one more example of how long it can take for the cessation process to be formally commenced and concluded. All three of these cases illustrate this.

The other two are both decisions by Justice A.D. Little upholding the RPD's determination of cessation.

It appears that Baingana triggered the cessation action by applying for citizenship in which he revealed three trips to his home country, all attendant the death of a family member, the longest stay was for two months to stay and support his mother following the death of his second brother. The first of the three trips was attendant the earlier death of a brother and was more than three years after he was granted refugee status in Canada, nearly three years after becoming a Permanent Resident.

Mahendra Kumar and Prem Lata, a couple who made 4 trips to their home country during the ten year period preceding the date that cessation proceedings were commenced against them, all trips to visit with a son with health issues.

The manner in which Justice Little articulates the reasonableness standard in the latter case is a good explanation of the standard of review in these cases. It is worth quoting (citations omitted):

[15] Reasonableness review is a deferential and disciplined evaluation of whether an administrative decision is transparent, intelligible and justified. . . The starting point is the reasons provided by the decision maker, which are read holistically and contextually, and in conjunction with the record that was before the decision maker. A reasonable decision is based on an internally coherent and rational chain of analysis and is justified in relation to the facts and law that constrained the decision maker . . .
[16] It is not the role of the Court to re-assess or re-weigh the evidence, or to provide its own view of the merits . . . Thus, it is not permissible for the Court to come to its own view of the merits of the application and then measure the impugned decision against the Court’s own assessment.
[17] To intervene, the reviewing court must be satisfied that there are “sufficiently serious shortcomings” in the decision such that it does not exhibit sufficient justification, intelligibility and transparency. Flaws or shortcomings must be more than a “minor misstep”; the problem must be sufficiently central or significant to the outcome to render the decision unreasonable.


What looms large in these cases is that it is obvious these individuals were well established, PERMANENTLY settled in Canada, and the trips to the home country were attendant what virtually all human beings have a strong compulsion to do, to visit family and especially to participate in family matters attendant important family events, like the death of a family member. There is no hint that any of these individuals were just casually traveling to their home country for pleasure or convenience or commercial activity, let alone with an intent to rely on the home country's authorities for protection or assistance. Reavailment in these cases is based on a technical presumption, in large part a legal fiction, and their appeals have been denied because they failed to persuade the RPD what, frankly, is obvious: they intended to visit family for clearly compelling reasons, NOT to reavail themselves of home country protection.

These decisions reflect a total disregard for the practical reality that PR status dramatically reduces the risks for many who are in fact settled in Canada, who have the capacity to simply leave and return to Canada if and when there is an increase in the risks they face during a relatively brief visit. Kumar and Lata were settled in Canada for a decade and a half before the government's cessation of their status. Baingana was sufficiently established and settled in Canada to qualify for a grant of citizenship.

There is no hint in these cases that the underlying reasons for seeking refugee status were not compelling and sufficient, not valid, let alone fraudulent.

To take away the status of persons who Canada has granted PERMANENT resident status and who have, accordingly, PERMANENTLY settled in Canada, when those individuals have done NOTHING inconsistent with the purpose for which Canada grants PR status, and have not otherwise done anything which would be grounds for inadmissibility, makes no sense . . . and it is inherently cruel.

Obviously the political environment today is not conducive to revising how cessation applies to PRs. So it is not likely this will be addressed in any positive way anytime soon. But it is a serious blemish in the Canadian immigration scheme.
 
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Dear Forum Members,

I am currently in the process of applying for Canadian citizenship and would appreciate expert advice regarding two related situations that arose during my time in Canada. I was accepted as a protected person in 2018 and received my PR in 2020.

1. Passport Renewal Issues
My old passport expired in 2019 and was with the IRCC office during the COVID-19 closures. Due to this, I was unable to get my passport. At the same time, my children’s passports, which had also expired, could not be renewed in my home country due to a rule requiring both parents’ passports to be valid. This created a difficult situation, as their PR sponsorship was in process, and they couldn’t travel to Canada without renewed passports.
In desperation, I applied for my passport renewal through the online portal of my home country. To my surprise, my renewal was approved, which allowed me to renew my children’s passports, and they were eventually able to join me in Canada.

2. Travel to My Home Country for Children’s Safety
In 2022, I traveled to my home country under extraordinary circumstances to ensure the safety of my children, who had been abandoned there by their other parent. My ex-spouse, who has a documented history of domestic violence and neglect, deceived me by taking the children to visit the home country and abandoning them, alone and vulnerable. I acted immediately to protect them, despite the personal risks involved, and had to remain in hiding for three months before finally returning to Canada.
I want to emphasize that these actions were solely motivated by my desire to protect my children and reunite with them. I was unaware of the specific rule regarding passport validity and had no intention of re-availing myself of protection from my home country. I have police reports, Children’s Aid Society records, and other documents to prove the genuineness of my case.

I would greatly appreciate any insights or advice from those with experience in similar situations, particularly regarding the impact on my citizenship application. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.

Best regards,
 
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