yas4u said:
Okay I guess when someone is not in the others situation s/he doesn't feel / understand what they go through. Here is my experience and you tell me if it is cool:
1. I waited about 16 months since arrived in Canada to get the hearing and in total 18 months to get my protected person status.
2. I have applied on Jan, 2012 for my permanent residency and till now I haven't received the medical exams (Phase 1) and after following with CIC being advised they don't have any sign of receiving my application and I have to re-apply. (Guess if you go through the same process you will say more than just "it sucks")
3. Since arriving in Canada (30 months ago, 2.5 years) the CIC haven't completed the first step of my PR Applciation
4. This means the application may be completed in 1 to 2 years from now
5. so 2.5 + (1 to 2) = 3.5 To 4.5 years to get the PR
6. Now, honestly do you think this is so cool? I just hope they won't lose my 2nd application and everything goes smoothly.
Thanks
PS. Regarding your second point, I work as hard as others if not more, I am educated with Master degree in Engineering though my experience is not recognized here. I pay TAX more than what 40% of people pays in Canada --> Means the money that this Refugee earns a year goes to support other Canadians.
About the Education, I am considered as an INTERNATIONAL STUDENT in most universities in Canada so I am not identical as a Canadian / PR.
Regarding the health, I have insurance coverage and I pay for it monthly (FROM MY OWN INCOME)
Hope now you reconsider your point of view.
As you say immigration situations have to be taken in context. Do you realize there are over 300K applicants some that have waited over 10 years for the PR under the FSW that have had their applications closed due to a unilateral rule by the government. There is a class action on this in process. These people never got a chance to even get into Canada and applied as per the rules to include payment.
Refugee applicants present challenges to the immigration system due to systematic abuse of the process as a short cut to PR and the fact that it can and does lead to jumping the line. The delays to the hearing are due to the number of people awaiting review. Its very high due to multiple false claims especially from claimants who are nationals of countries that have rights simialr to Canada. For example there are more claimants from EU countries than any other region in the world...does that make sense to you? Most of these claims are abondoned at appeal as the claimants know they will be correctly refused. They just want to enter Canada and abuse the welfare system. Parliament has enacted changes to the refugee system to address this including the denial of work permits to designated nationals. Canada also has a lower threshold for accepting claims..do you know that many countries in the EU e.g Germany fail to recognize non-state persecution...Canada is in effect a soft touch for fake applicants.
To have a reasoned debate on this the forum would need to know how and why you come to Canada in the first place? Were you visiting? Do you realize how lucky you are to have been processed for convention status from whatever status you entered Canada in such a short time. There are people who wait for 5+years.
Also what is your country of citizenship? Do they have a refugee class? How fast do they process applications for PR and Citizenship? Do they offer an environemt where you can freely speak your mind, worship as you wish, equal gender and minority rights?
Don't you think its a good thing that Canada has offered you the opportunity to have gainful employment to the extent that you are paying 40% tax as I understand or you pay more tax than 40% of tax payers....why is this? By the way the tax pays for services such as provincial health care, schools, the police which we all enjoy in Canada i.e if you call the cops they don't say we can't respond as you are a refugee. I don't quite get the health care part that you are paying..is this for coverage beyond what the Province provides? If it is then that's a personal decision. That your engineering is not recognized is a challenge faced by all immigrants but that's nothing to do with CIC its an employer issue.
Sorry you need to wait in turn for your processing. You crossed the most significant hurdle which is you get to stay ...if you are not happy then either go to the courts or to be blunt you can always leave Canada for a country where your applications can be processed at the speed you think is appropriate. By the way its good practice to mail documents to CIC registered.
