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Recommended buffer over the 1095 days minimum for the Canadian Citizenship application of a person with lot of travel history. Is 30 days buffer okay?

CanadianDreamer@TO

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Hello All,

I am close to becoming eligible for submitting the Canadian citizenship application and have traveled around 30 times outside the country in the last 3 years. Most of these have been weekly trips to United States on Business Travel and in the last 15 months. Can someone confirm with what buffer over the minimum should I apply for citizenship? I am thinking of applying with a buffer of 30 days, is it going to be okay or should I apply with a larger buffer to avoid any non-routine processing.
 
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Maruchan

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Hello All,

I am close to becoming eligible for submitting the Canadian citizenship application and have traveled around 30 times outside the country in the last 3 years. Most of these have been weekly trips to United States on Business Travel and in the last 15 months. Can someone confirm with what buffer over the minimum should I apply for citizenship? I am thinking of applying with a buffer of 30 days, is it going to be okay or should I apply with a larger burger to avoid any non-routine processing.
Yes, 30 days buffer is standard. Good Luck!
 

CanadianDreamer@TO

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@Maruchan I have a follow-up question. I understand 30 days is a good buffer however If I make it 45 days, will it improve the processing time of my citizenship application. Since I am not yet eligible to apply, I can think about all possibilities. I am thinking about the best strategy for my case.
 

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It's better to focus on accuracy vs trying to find the cutoff above which you'd be considered "safe". 30 days for someone who listed every single entry/exit properly warrants less scrunity than a 60 days buffer but oups, 2 travels totalling 8 days of absence missing there and the agent starting question your credibility. Same if the credibility is put in question for lacking answers elsewhere in the application.
At the end of the day, you need to feel good about your buffer, it's a personal decision, and no-one can tell you how your application can go. But from the look of it, if you're already unsure about 30 being enough, yeah, go with 45 or 60 days even, those few additional weeks are kinda negligible VS the processing time and the lifetime of having the citizenship.
 

sonusweetie

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This is just my personal opinion and not legal advice.

I don't think it matters whether you wait 30 more days or 45. I have a colleague who had several visits to the US to meet his brother (probably similar to yours or even more) and that itself made his case officer slow down his processing. Apparently they paused at physical presence. Finally my colleague called ircc and asked what's going on, he was called in-person, and there he was simply asked to justify his frequent overseas travels. He explained to the officer that he used to travel to meet his brother who lives in Atlanta. And that's it.. the case officer moved the case quickly after that.

I think for you what's more important is to capture all your entries and exits, (1) without missing anything, and (2) accurately. An error of even one day can give you wrong results. It may be best to let the physical presence calculator do its job for you and then use your best judgement to decide how long you want to wait after completing the required days before filing.
 

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Can someone confirm with what buffer over the minimum should I apply for citizenship? I am thinking of applying with a buffer of 30 days, is it going to be okay or should I apply with a larger buffer to avoid any non-routine processing.
I understand 30 days is a good buffer however If I make it 45 days, will it improve the processing time of my citizenship application.
I fully concur with the observations emphasizing that the key to reducing the risk of non-routine processing is two-fold: Completeness and Accuracy. And this is in regards to all parts of the application, all the information provided.

A buffer of days physically present over and above the minimum requirement is an additional element that should reduce the risk of non-routine processing. But to be clear, a buffer (no matter how large) will NOT improve the processing time. It can help avoid or reduce the risk of non-routine processing that increases the processing time.

There are two main reasons for a buffer:

(1) to cover potential errors/omissions (it happens), so that the applicant continues to meet the requirements even if they overlooked a trip resulting in a deduction of days credited toward meeting the presence requirement (remember that just one day short, as of the day the application is made, means the application will be denied)​

(2) to reduce the risk the total stranger bureaucrat assessing physical presence has concerns about physical presence​

I typically refer to a month as a "good buffer" for most applicants because there should be little difficulty waiting that much longer to apply and for most that is enough to cover an overlooked trip, and enough to reassure processing agents there is no need to investigate further (no need to look beyond the routine verifications, like the CBSA travel history and comparing address and activity history dates, other nominal cross-checks).

I have addressed situations in which an applicant might consider waiting to apply with a bigger buffer in other topics, such as in regards to relying on pre-PR credit for days in Canada with implied status, or as a visa exempt visitor not issued a visitor's record (this is about a big enough buffer to cover those periods just in case IRCC does not verify the individual's temporary resident status for those days). Among other personal circumstances specific to the particular applicant (I waited for more than an extra year, but that was about my particular situation and history, including being self-employed doing the very same thing I did before moving to Canada for the very same, not Canadian publisher). There is no precise formula to follow. How much buffer, over a month (many in this forum have suggested ten days is plenty), is a very personal matter.
 
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CanadianDreamer@TO

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Thanks to all Senior Members for responding so quickly and with such insight. The one thing which I gather from all responses is that I have to be 100% complete and accurate, lay everything on the table and do not miss on anything that might be of relevance to the adjudicating officer. I have requested travel history both entry and exists out of Canada, from ATIP to tally with my data so that I am both accurate and complete.
 
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Dear Members, I am sorry for expanding this thread. I need to travel to India on short notice on Nov 16th for a personal situation. I would have accumulated 1105 residence days (10 days over the buffer) by Nov 15th and I am thinking of applying for Canadian citizenship before starting the travel. If I apply after coming back from India, my process will be delayed even more. Considering my extensive travel history, is it advisable to apply with a buffer of only 10 days.
 

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Dear Members, I am sorry for expanding this thread. I need to travel to India on short notice on Nov 16th for a personal situation. I would have accumulated 1105 residence days (10 days over the buffer) by Nov 15th and I am thinking of applying for Canadian citizenship before starting the travel. If I apply after coming back from India, my process will be delayed even more. Considering my extensive travel history, is it advisable to apply with a buffer of only 10 days.
Why are you so anxious of applying sooner rather than later?
 

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Dear Members, I am sorry for expanding this thread. I need to travel to India on short notice on Nov 16th for a personal situation. I would have accumulated 1105 residence days (10 days over the buffer) by Nov 15th and I am thinking of applying for Canadian citizenship before starting the travel. If I apply after coming back from India, my process will be delayed even more. Considering my extensive travel history, is it advisable to apply with a buffer of only 10 days.
You already got the answers you need.
Everything you decide is on you. Having a large buffer is simply a risk mitigation plan (because people make mistakes in their application, and 99% of these people were 100% they didn't make any), but at the end of the day, you decide when to apply and you live with your decision.
Go with what your guts say and how risk averse you are.
 
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