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singh_maninder

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Jan 5, 2016
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Hello Friends,

I have a question here :

Will CIC verify all the forms and documents with the nominating province ? Like we can provide more information in CIC forms that were not filled in State Nominations forms ? Will it be advisable or not ?
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Apr 29, 2015
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singh_maninder said:
Hello Friends,

I have a question here :

Will CIC verify all the forms and documents with the nominating province ? Like we can provide more information in CIC forms that were not filled in State Nominations forms ? Will it be advisable or not ?
Information like what? If the information is genuine and valid, then yes. If it is false or invalid, then no. Certain things can be changed - PP number in case of new PP etc but as pointed out by cjs, you cannot change certain things (NOC, for instance might be one example).
 

cjs

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Nov 13, 2015
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I think details like 10 years history etc can be changed.
But accompanying and non-accompanying family members can not be changed. that may be considered as misrepresentation.
Seek for replies from other senior members ...
 

singh_maninder

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Jan 5, 2016
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Details Like :

I am working in India for the past 5 years and changed my rooms often in the same city . During SINP I have put my permanent address and current living address . Now my agent is saying we should put all the house details where I have lived . So it is advisable to add all these details ??

Other things remain the same like PP No, Family Members , Roles and Respon , Company etc.
 

cjs

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Nov 13, 2015
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i believe there ll be no issue, because all these things ll be cleared in BG check.
You should be as transparent to CIC as you can be. CIC won't mind you providing additional information.
 

CanadaWeCome

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Oct 1, 2015
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cjs said:
I think details like 10 years history etc can be changed.
But accompanying and non-accompanying family members can not be changed. that may be considered as misrepresentation.
Seek for replies from other senior members ...
I don't think that would be correct...What if someone has a child birth between OINP & eAPR?

In that case he would need to add the new family member.
 

cjs

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Nov 13, 2015
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CanadaWeCome said:
I don't think that would be correct...What if someone has a child birth between OINP & eAPR?

In that case he would need to add the new family member.
Yes you are right, but i am talking about the case where people show spouse as non-accompanying in EE application but after getting PNP nomination they try to add spouse to accompanying because they know their CRS is going to remain higher than cut off only. This might be considered as misrepresentation because in EE and OINP application spouse is non-accompanying.

I am not sure on this too, but this is how i think.
 

Bhullar28

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Mar 21, 2015
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Got refusal letter yesterday after paying RPRF, AUG 1st AOR.


Dear Manhar Singh:

I have now completed the assessment of your application for a permanent resident visa as a skilled worker. I have determined that you do not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.

Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act directs that an officer may not issue a visa or other document in respect of an application for permanent residence to a foreign national who was issued an invitation under Division 0.1 to make such an application if – at the time the invitation was issued or at the time the officer received their application – the foreign national did not meet the criteria set out in an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(e) or does not have the qualifications on the basis of which they were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h) and were consequently issued the invitation.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada invited you to apply for permanent resident status based on the qualifications you claimed in your Express Entry profile. Those qualification claims and the accompanying Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) points awarded were summarized in your invitation letter.

The Ministerial Instructions for the Express Entry Application Management System state that in order to be assigned points under section 23 or 24 for their foreign work experience, a foreign national must specify in their expression of interest the four-digit code in the National Occupational Classification (NOC) that corresponds to each of the occupations they have engaged in while accumulating their foreign work experience; and must have performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational descriptions of the National Occupational Classification, as well as a substantial number of the main duties, including all essential duties, as set out in the National Occupational Classification.
In your Express Entry profile you indicated that you have foreign work experience. You have not satisfied me that you have performed the lead statement of NOC 6221; which states, Technical sales specialists, wholesale trade, sell a range of technical goods and services, such as scientific, agricultural and industrial products, electricity, telecommunications services and computer services, to governments and to commercial and industrial establishments in domestic and international localities.

You declared you were employed under this NOC for Airtel. There is insufficient evidence on file to satisfy me that you provided wholesale telecom services to governments and to commercial and industrial establishments in domestic and international localities.

For your experience with Mitashi, there is insufficient evidence on file to satisfy me that you provided wholesale sales services to governments and to commercial and industrial establishments in domestic and international localities.

You have submitted letter of offer dated June 16, 2015 from XXXXX (my current company); there is insufficient evidence on file to satisfy me that you have this work experience. I am therefore not satisfied that you have provided sufficient evidence of having acquired foreign work experience.

PR-EC-SW-refusal letter-minimum requirements not met

In accordance with section 11.2 of the Act and Subsection 82(1) of the Regulations, I am refusing your application because I have found that you do not possess the qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h). This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest ranking person who was invited to apply in your round, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System.
Following an examination of your application, I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of the Act and the regulations for the reasons explained above. I am therefore refusing your application.

You will receive a refund of the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you have paid

You must remove your Job Seeker profile from the Job Bank website as you are no longer an Express Entry candidate. You must also remove any references that you are a candidate for Express Entry from any private job board websites, if you used any.

Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) states that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or for any other document required by the regulations. The visa or document shall be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of this Act. Subsection 2(2) specifies that unless otherwise indicated, references in the Act to “this Act” include regulations made under it.

Thank you for the interest you have shown in Canada.

Sincerely,
ES10632
Immigration Officer
Citizenship and Immigration Canada Case Processing Centre- Ottawa
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Apr 29, 2015
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Bhullar28 said:
Got refusal letter yesterday after paying RPRF, AUG 1st AOR.


Dear Manhar Singh:

I have now completed the assessment of your application for a permanent resident visa as a skilled worker. I have determined that you do not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.

Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act directs that an officer may not issue a visa or other document in respect of an application for permanent residence to a foreign national who was issued an invitation under Division 0.1 to make such an application if – at the time the invitation was issued or at the time the officer received their application – the foreign national did not meet the criteria set out in an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(e) or does not have the qualifications on the basis of which they were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h) and were consequently issued the invitation.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada invited you to apply for permanent resident status based on the qualifications you claimed in your Express Entry profile. Those qualification claims and the accompanying Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) points awarded were summarized in your invitation letter.

The Ministerial Instructions for the Express Entry Application Management System state that in order to be assigned points under section 23 or 24 for their foreign work experience, a foreign national must specify in their expression of interest the four-digit code in the National Occupational Classification (NOC) that corresponds to each of the occupations they have engaged in while accumulating their foreign work experience; and must have performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational descriptions of the National Occupational Classification, as well as a substantial number of the main duties, including all essential duties, as set out in the National Occupational Classification.
In your Express Entry profile you indicated that you have foreign work experience. You have not satisfied me that you have performed the lead statement of NOC 6221; which states, Technical sales specialists, wholesale trade, sell a range of technical goods and services, such as scientific, agricultural and industrial products, electricity, telecommunications services and computer services, to governments and to commercial and industrial establishments in domestic and international localities.

You declared you were employed under this NOC for Airtel. There is insufficient evidence on file to satisfy me that you provided wholesale telecom services to governments and to commercial and industrial establishments in domestic and international localities.

For your experience with Mitashi, there is insufficient evidence on file to satisfy me that you provided wholesale sales services to governments and to commercial and industrial establishments in domestic and international localities.

You have submitted letter of offer dated June 16, 2015 from XXXXX (my current company); there is insufficient evidence on file to satisfy me that you have this work experience. I am therefore not satisfied that you have provided sufficient evidence of having acquired foreign work experience.

PR-EC-SW-refusal letter-minimum requirements not met

In accordance with section 11.2 of the Act and Subsection 82(1) of the Regulations, I am refusing your application because I have found that you do not possess the qualification on the basis of which you were ranked under an instruction given under paragraph 10.3(1)(h). This change in your qualifications resulted in a loss of points that brought your rank below the lowest ranking person who was invited to apply in your round, under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System.
Following an examination of your application, I am not satisfied that you meet the requirements of the Act and the regulations for the reasons explained above. I am therefore refusing your application.

You will receive a refund of the Right of Permanent Residence Fee that you have paid

You must remove your Job Seeker profile from the Job Bank website as you are no longer an Express Entry candidate. You must also remove any references that you are a candidate for Express Entry from any private job board websites, if you used any.

Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) states that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or for any other document required by the regulations. The visa or document shall be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of this Act. Subsection 2(2) specifies that unless otherwise indicated, references in the Act to “this Act” include regulations made under it.

Thank you for the interest you have shown in Canada.

Sincerely,
ES10632
Immigration Officer
Citizenship and Immigration Canada Case Processing Centre- Ottawa
I am very sorry about your refusal.

Could you tell us more about what you think went wrong? What was wrong with the reference letter? Was it not in the format specified by CIC? Do you think they refused because your roles did not sufficiently match the NOC that you claimed points under?
 

Bhullar28

Star Member
Mar 21, 2015
58
1
rajkamalmohanram said:
I am very sorry about your refusal.

Could you tell us more about what you think went wrong? What was wrong with the reference letter? Was it not in the format specified by CIC? Do you think they refused because your roles did not sufficiently match the NOC that you claimed points under?
I believe that the NOC was a complete mismatch, I should have had a more generic Sales oriented NOC as per my work experience.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Apr 29, 2015
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Bhullar28 said:
I believe that the NOC was a complete mismatch, I should have had a more generic Sales oriented NOC as per my work experience.
Once again, I'm very sorry. I would suggest you to not lose focus and apply again right away, this time with the proper NOC. I would be happy to help you, if the need be.

I wish you good luck and all the very best.
 

Russian

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May 14, 2015
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It's very scary that they are sending refusals after 5 months processing and paying RPRF.

I hoped that receiving RPRF means that application is fully eligible and only criminal issues left to be checked. But now it seems that it is not that way. Already 3 rejections after RPRF :'(
 

yelena

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May 8, 2015
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Russian said:
It's very scary that they are sending refusals after 5 months processing and paying RPRF.

I hoped that receiving RPRF means that application is fully eligible and only criminal issues left to be checked. But now it seems that it is not that way. Already 3 rejections after RPRF :'(
and again: rprf doenst mean anything ( as proven multiple times already..)