Reason for PR application rejection on medical grounds

[alexure]

Thank you so much for your warm words.

Sairam, unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, sorry.

 

[danny2009]

@alexure,
Can you provide your timeline on the left side and the bottom signature of message box?

Thank you?

 

[computergeek]

I have read almost your posts from which I am aware of how much struggle you have done to get your dream. I am so happy for you and I don't have words to express my happiness for your success. Hopefully, I will achieve the same as my spouse has also disability due to poliomyelitis. Do you mind if I ask you a question? I am preparing to submit my file under FSW but on one of the application form,I have to disclose information about disability. Do you think is it of need to mention? what happens if they reject my file without processing further because of disclosure of this information.

They cannot reject your application without further processing on medical grounds. They can reject your application due to misrepresentation (which also bars you from applying for anything for at least two years).

The question always revolves around costs. So the issue is not "what disability/disease/syndrome" but rather "how much will it cost to care for this person".

You must be truthful in your application. That doesn't mean you have to volunteer negative information, but when asked a direct question you cannot omit it.

 

[alexure]

Hi All,

I'm holding COPR in my hands - YEAHHHHHH

Thanks again to all who helped me!!!!

I wish you all the best,
Alex.

 

[danny2009]

Hi All,
I'm holding COPR in my hands - YEAHHHHHH
Thanks again to all who helped me!!!!
I wish you all the best,
Alex.

Big... congrats, Alex...!

 

[computergeek]

Awesome news! Best of luck in Canada.

 

[XpressEnterprise]

Congrats Alexure and have a wonderful future.

To all the experts, I wanted to know about medical exams for Canadian immigration.

I went through one cardiovascular test (Nuclear stress test requested by CIC). I have one report where it says "Mild reversable Myocardial Ischaemia involving basal segment of inferolateral wall". My age is 61.

Do I have to do any other tests or is it fine? I've shown it to my heart specialist and they have said that it's mild. You just need to take medicines and given me a dietary plan. No operation is necessary.

 

[computergeek]

Do I have to do any other tests or is it fine? I've shown it to my heart specialist and they have said that it's mild. You just need to take medicines and given me a dietary plan. No operation is necessary.

A38(1)(c) is entirely about costs. While the legal case law says that CIC must make an individualized assessment, the reality is that they seem to do so in about 20% of cases. Thus, they use the medical condition to reach a general conclusion and then force the applicant to make the arguments necessary for an individualized assessment. Morally bankrupt and in clear violation of Canada's international obligations, but nobody challenges them on those grounds so the process continues to exist (even CIC admits how troubling and difficult this section of IRPA is to administer in their own internal reviews!)

The magic number is $6285 per year at the present time, though that figure has not been revised in 18 months. I've seen fairness letters quoting even lower numbers, but unless they've just recently updated it, that figure remains the number of interest.

So in your case the question is: what will be the cost of treatment? I generally use the Quebec formulary figures for drug costs as in my experience they are reasonably close to the normal cost of drugs in Canada - and the Regie's list (http://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/regie/legal-publications/Pages/list-medications.aspx) is easily accessible, frequently updated and authoritative.

Look up the costs of the drugs. Estimate the costs of the routine care for your condition. Add them up. If the costs are less than the magic number, you're fine.

 

[XpressEnterprise]

A38(1)(c) is entirely about costs. While the legal case law says that CIC must make an individualized assessment, the reality is that they seem to do so in about 20% of cases. Thus, they use the medical condition to reach a general conclusion and then force the applicant to make the arguments necessary for an individualized assessment. Morally bankrupt and in clear violation of Canada's international obligations, but nobody challenges them on those grounds so the process continues to exist (even CIC admits how troubling and difficult this section of IRPA is to administer in their own internal reviews!)

The magic number is $6285 per year at the present time, though that figure has not been revised in 18 months. I've seen fairness letters quoting even lower numbers, but unless they've just recently updated it, that figure remains the number of interest.

So in your case the question is: what will be the cost of treatment? I generally use the Quebec formulary figures for drug costs as in my experience they are reasonably close to the normal cost of drugs in Canada - and the Regie's list (http://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/regie/legal-publications/Pages/list-medications.aspx) is easily accessible, frequently updated and authoritative.

Look up the costs of the drugs. Estimate the costs of the routine care for your condition. Add them up. If the costs are less than the magic number, you're fine.

Thanks for the reply.

Just wanted to know that does it help if I have my own medical/health insurance?

 

[computergeek]

Just wanted to know that does it help if I have my own medical/health insurance?

It can, yes, but it depends upon the specifics of the case.

 

[XpressEnterprise]

It can, yes, but it depends upon the specifics of the case.

Thanks for the reply @computergeek. I need your humble opinion on my issue.

I went for ECG (as instructed by CIC's further medical tests) and my test came as 'Mild reversible myocardial ischemia". Currently, I've given all of my remedicals and am waiting for PPR.

I googled about it and found this: ('reversible' only means heart will come back to normal state after stress)

Myocardial ischemia occurs when blood flow to your heart muscle is decreased by a partial or complete blockage of your heart's arteries (coronary arteries). The decrease in blood flow reduces your heart's oxygen supply.

Myocardial ischemia, also called cardiac ischemia, can damage your heart muscle, reducing its ability to pump efficiently. A sudden, severe blockage of a coronary artery may lead to a heart attack. Myocardial ischemia may also cause serious abnormal heart rhythms.

Treatment for myocardial ischemia is directed at improving blood flow to the heart muscle and may include medications, a procedure to open blocked arteries or coronary artery bypass surgery. Making heart-healthy lifestyle choices is important in treating and preventing myocardial ischemia.

Source : http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocardial-ischemia/basics/definition/con-20035096

I do not have any chest pain (angina) and I am not diabetic at all, even at the age of 61. The only problem I have is of hypertension. I've spoken one doctor in US. As I do not need any operation, but generally a patient with chronic stable angina is around US$3200. So, medical therapy cost would be lower than that.

I haven't researched enough on medical/health insurance yet, but I think I'm going to research on it.

 

[XpressEnterprise]

No replies???

 

[computergeek]

No replies???

It seems like you have all the information already. If you want confirmation, then only CIC can give that to you.

You're in the medical furtherance part. From what you've said, it doesn't sound like an issue. If it is they will either ask for more information or issue you a fairness letter.

If you haven't seen "medical results have been received" in the next couple months on e-CAS then you should start looking out for a fairness letter, as that is how CIC tells you there's an issue that might make you inadmissible.

 

[XpressEnterprise]

Thanks computergeek

I have stopped relying on ECAS system because for the past 3 years, nothing changed there, but I kept getting letters from CIC.

Anyways, thanks for the information. You've been really helpful.

 

[computergeek]

I have stopped relying on ECAS system because for the past 3 years, nothing changed there, but I kept getting letters from CIC.

In general I agree. However, the "medical results have been received" seems to be accurate.