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Re-enter Canada using your COPR?

Niresh

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Oct 30, 2018
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Buddy, my response was regarding suggestion you had made in previous post that you can take Greyhound to Toronto while traveling on COPR which you cannot. Clearly, private cars or rental vehicles or foot travel is permitted on COPR but any commercial carrier will not let you board the bus, boat, plane, train etc. without having PR Card or Travel Visa in your possession for travel to Canada.
Hello @langoorbandar ,
Need some suggestion. My wife and I are planning to move permanently from US. We already did our softlanding and PR card is delivered to a friend's place in Toronto. We don't own a car, and I may not able to rent a car because my US visa will be expired by then, so I will not be able to return the can back in the US. can I take a bus to Niagara Falls, NY side then cross the rainbow bridge by foot just with my singed COPR and stamped passport?

Thanks in advance.
 

lampbreaker

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Apr 7, 2015
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Hello @langoorbandar ,
Need some suggestion. My wife and I are planning to move permanently from US. We already did our softlanding and PR card is delivered to a friend's place in Toronto. We don't own a car, and I may not able to rent a car because my US visa will be expired by then, so I will not be able to return the can back in the US. can I take a bus to Niagara Falls, NY side then cross the rainbow bridge by foot just with my singed COPR and stamped passport?

Thanks in advance.
Yes, you can. One way car rentals are also available. If your friend can send the card to you (it should take a week or so), it will solve all your problems.
 

Niresh

Newbie
Oct 30, 2018
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Yes, you can. One way car rentals are also available. If your friend can send the card to you (it should take a week or so), it will solve all your problems.
Dear @lampbreaker,

Thanks for the quick response, but I prefer to cross the bridge by foot. I personally felt that will more convenient and hassle free for me just by avoiding the tension on receiving the card in mail or returning the rental in Canada. More over my drivers license will get expired along with my US visa, so again rental a car in the US border would be a problem.
 

Samoinp

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May 30, 2017
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Dear @lampbreaker,

Thanks for the quick response, but I prefer to cross the bridge by foot. I personally felt that will more convenient and hassle free for me just by avoiding the tension on receiving the card in mail or returning the rental in Canada. More over my drivers license will get expired along with my US visa, so again rental a car in the US border would be a problem.
FWIW, i did a one way rental from LA to Buffalo and another one from Buffalo to Toronto (one way from US to Canada was little more expensive).
My trip started after i quit my Job and was able to rent just fine. Rental agency just look at the expiry date of California license and they don't ask for any visa/residential status.

I had also used California license in Toronto for a month before i exchanged for a full G license.
 

Niresh

Newbie
Oct 30, 2018
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FWIW, i did a one way rental from LA to Buffalo and another one from Buffalo to Toronto (one way from US to Canada was little more expensive).
My trip started after i quit my Job and was able to rent just fine. Rental agency just look at the expiry date of California license and they don't ask for any visa/residential status.

I had also used California license in Toronto for a month before i exchanged for a full G license.
Hello @Samoinp,
Thanks for sharing. in my case even my drivers license expires by the time I am planning to move. so I doubt If I can rent a car with a expired license.
 

Samoinp

Hero Member
May 30, 2017
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Hello @Samoinp,
Thanks for sharing. in my case even my drivers license expires by the time I am planning to move. so I doubt If I can rent a car with a expired license.
If you still can, try renewing it before the more. You could exchange it for a license in Canada. Most importantly, to rent a car here and run across places. Also get your driver abstract from DMV over there. Helps with auto insurance as well.
 

Niresh

Newbie
Oct 30, 2018
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If you still can, try renewing it before the more. You could exchange it for a license in Canada. Most importantly, to rent a car here and run across places. Also get your driver abstract from DMV over there. Helps with auto insurance as well.
Hi @Samoinp,
My status in the States gets expired before I move and I will in grace period. with expired legal status in the Status I will not be allowed to renew my DL. thanks on the info about DL abstract from DMV. I have already applied for that.
 

rakakatoofaan

Star Member
Sep 8, 2014
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Buddy, my response was regarding suggestion you had made in previous post that you can take Greyhound to Toronto while traveling on COPR which you cannot. Clearly, private cars or rental vehicles or foot travel is permitted on COPR but any commercial carrier will not let you board the bus, boat, plane, train etc. without having PR Card or Travel Visa in your possession for travel to Canada.
I have personally traveled in a bus from US to Canada on a COPR.
 

rakakatoofaan

Star Member
Sep 8, 2014
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Tell your friend to actually do some research instead of just believing what random people tell him. There is no law against mailing a PR card.

You don't even need your COPR. CBSA will swipe your passport and see your PR status in the system.
True. You can show up at the border without PR card or COPR. Since you are a PR, you will be in the system as a PR.
 

langoorbandar

Star Member
Jun 14, 2017
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Bay Area, USA
Visa Office......
Ottawa
I have personally traveled in a bus from US to Canada on a COPR.
They may have overlooked and allowed you to board the bus or you belong to a country which does not require visa to travel to Canada. However, it is not a norm for many other immigrants who are citizen of countries which require visa to travel to Canada. None of the commercial carriers such as boats, bus, train & airlines are supposed to allow travel on COPR as its not valid for travel. Its explicitly written on it as well as on IRCC website.

When we arrive at the border post, CBSA allows us in since we have already declared our PR status. COPR in that case is not even required and CBSA officers can verify our PR status with simple scan of the passport. As PR person, we are entitled to enter Canada if we present ourselves at the border, how we go there is another question and most of the times we have to reach there in personal transport or on foot if we do not have a valid visa for travel.
 

rakakatoofaan

Star Member
Sep 8, 2014
123
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They may have overlooked and allowed you to board the bus or you belong to a country which does not require visa to travel to Canada. However, it is not a norm for many other immigrants who are citizen of countries which require visa to travel to Canada. None of the commercial carriers such as boats, bus, train & airlines are supposed to allow travel on COPR as its not valid for travel. Its explicitly written on it as well as on IRCC website.

When we arrive at the border post, CBSA allows us in since we have already declared our PR status. COPR in that case is not even required and CBSA officers can verify our PR status with simple scan of the passport. As PR person, we are entitled to enter Canada if we present ourselves at the border, how we go there is another question and most of the times we have to reach there in personal transport or on foot if we do not have a valid visa for travel.
I am from one of those countries, which require visa for travelling to Canada. I am just sharing my experience here.
 

langoorbandar

Star Member
Jun 14, 2017
168
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Bay Area, USA
Visa Office......
Ottawa
I am from one of those countries, which require visa for travelling to Canada. I am just sharing my experience here.
I'm glad it has worked out for you in the past, however I just wanted to ensure other individuals don't take it as a rule which is why I clarified it several times in the thread. My intention was not to question your experience :). What surely works and is allowed by IRCC/CBSA is crossing the border on foot or in personal transport such as own vehicle or rental car and people can definitely attempt it than trying their luck using bus/train etc. and hope they don't deny the boarding.
 

rakakatoofaan

Star Member
Sep 8, 2014
123
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I'm glad it has worked out for you in the past, however I just wanted to ensure other individuals don't take it as a rule which is why I clarified it several times in the thread. My intention was not to question your experience :). What surely works and is allowed by IRCC/CBSA is crossing the border on foot or in personal transport such as own vehicle or rental car and people can definitely attempt it than trying their luck using bus/train etc. and hope they don't deny the boarding.
Thank you for enlightening us as always. I did not want to prove you wrong. I just wanted to share my experience and I always suggest individuals to do a lot of research.