Ray of hope - FSW - 1
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CEC candidates are getting extra points for their education as well as the work experience .That is the reward or adv they gain for the time and money they have spend in Canada and there are so many fsw candidates who have spend the same or even more Amt of time and money in Other foreign countries ,but unfortunately cudnt settle there . Most of the fsw candidates achieve clb10 or 9 after 3 to 4 attempts only . So I believe both cec and fsw candidates are equal and cic shd conduct all program draws .
You already benefit from the system. For example, a person with the same exact profile as you, but with a bachelor's degree outside of Canada, does not have a chance to get an ITA, while you do. Wait a little more, improve your IELTS, study a one year post graduate degree, or work for an additional year.
Draws should be all program
let's not be greedy.It is not about being greedy or not, this is about common sense. Not talking about myself, but in general a person who spent several years in Canada has a Canadian credit history, most likely invested several tens of thousands CAD in Canadian economy and paid several thousands in federal and provincial taxes. Logically speaking, these people deserve having CEC draws because they have already shown their loyalty towards Canada.You already benefit from the system. For example, a person with the same exact profile as you, but with a bachelor's degree outside of Canada, does not have a chance to get an ITA, while you do. Wait a little more, improve your IELTS, study a one year post graduate degree, or work for an additional year.
Draws should be all program
Whats your definition of loyalty? We outlanders, didnt we spend too? Canada has tried by giving extra points to you guys. Moreso, you people never thought of this until the pandemic. Lets not be greedy please, CEC had 3 to 4 months non stop draws and we FSW were hoping and crying even got depressed.
If Canada really thought this way and allowed people to essentially buy their way to PR, then there would be no FSW category and they would never allow someone who has never set foot in Canada to become an immigrant, something to think about.
If you carefully read what I've written, I have never asked to stop FSW draws. I only said that the CEC draws should exist.
Despite being a CEC applicant myself, the tuition and taxes you paid may mean little in the eye of Canadian immigration. The reality is cold and hard. There are way too many foreign talents, whether they are already in Canada or not, want to become a Canadian. So they filter us with mathematical models merely because they can't take us all. But with crs 468, you should be able to obtain any PNP certificates easily?
Basically people who eligible for CEC are those who settled, adjusted their lifestyles towards Canadian way of living, agreed to obey Canadian law etc.,
Outlanders.. Well I am an outlander too, just proven that I am capable of living in Canada. Why shouldn't I deserve a CEC draw once in month/2/months/half a year?
It is a matter of time. At this stage it is extra 6 months wait for PNP certificate or just a CEC draw that solves everything without extra wait time/paperwork
If there was a way to quantify all of this into CRS, then you would have had a higher score but that is not the case. Maybe gather a few CEC candidates and start a protest demanding CEC only draws.
Yeah, me too. I have another pnp paper-based application in process. But the waiting time, with the pandemic, has become horrendous. Currently I'm also sitting at 468 waiting for the cec draw. Still trying to max out the language merits to 471 or even 474.
The Express Entry programs aren't even tiered anyway, so not sure why there is always emotional bickering between candidates from different streams?
You could argue that CEC have an advantage (if it can be viewed as that) in more easily verifiable Canadian work exp (amongst other factors), but then anecdotal evidence during the pandemic indicates that FSW applications appear to move through the initial stages of processing faster than CEC, to compensate.
Ultimately everyone is trying their hand at the same outcome/ dream, and the only main difference between us all being our personal circumstances up until the point at which we apply.
You could argue that CEC have an advantage (if it can be viewed as that) in more easily verifiable Canadian work exp (amongst other factors), but then anecdotal evidence during the pandemic indicates that FSW applications appear to move through the initial stages of processing faster than CEC, to compensate.
Ultimately everyone is trying their hand at the same outcome/ dream, and the only main difference between us all being our personal circumstances up until the point at which we apply.
Well, it is being quantified by assigning CEC status to the applicant, right? The only problem is there should be a way to utilizing this CEC status.
Again, I did not mean to offend anyone, just saying that CEC draw once in a while is something that would be great to have.
Use your common sense to understand this: you are getting more points because of your Canadian experience and bachelor degree, giving you higher chances to get an ITA compared with someone with the same exact experience and education as you, from outside Canada.
Also, logically speaking, it doesn't make sense to have CEC only draws, if Canada wanted to help those that have "shown loyalty" towards Canada, they would have had periodic CEC exclusive draws in a normal years before Covid.
Can't emphasize enough that you are benefiting from the points already, you may want more benefits because of the "loyalty", but we all are playing by the same rules
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