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dengan_lancar

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You asked and I put my opinion. ☹Last year happened B2B CEC draws. They are totally unpredictable and they kill us with this situation
Last year (first half) the situation was so serious that the world shut down. IRCC's move back then actually makes sense to me. The second half year IRCC also resumed the program, and now with the vaccine rolling out and the strict control of most countries (I mean, the 2K quarantine cost is strict enough?), everything seems to on a more positive note, how can they decide to put FSW on hold at this moment...I seriously don't understand their capricious working style.o_O

Well, pardon me for this sort of negative attitude, I am not picking on you, my point is to whine at IRCC....
 

willapp

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Last year (first half) the situation was so serious that the world shut down. IRCC's move back then actually makes sense to me. The second half year IRCC also resumed the program, and now with the vaccine rolling out and the strict control of most countries (I mean, the 2K quarantine cost is strict enough?), everything seems to on a more positive note, how can they decide to put FSW on hold at this moment...I seriously don't understand their capricious working style.o_O

Well, pardon me for this sort of negative attitude, I am not picking on you, my point is to whine at IRCC....
They have stated that they have limited capacity to process fsw. The fsw draw won’t come back until they have the capacity to process. IRCC has a huge backlog and they still have not revealed any plans.

The vaccine rollout in Canada is delayed and Canada does not have any manufacturing capabilities. The government, not just the IRCC, has not been doing a good job the past 12 months.
 
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ZAtoCD

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Last year (first half) the situation was so serious that the world shut down. IRCC's move back then actually makes sense to me. The second half year IRCC also resumed the program, and now with the vaccine rolling out and the strict control of most countries (I mean, the 2K quarantine cost is strict enough?), everything seems to on a more positive note, how can they decide to put FSW on hold at this moment...I seriously don't understand their capricious working style.o_O

Well, pardon me for this sort of negative attitude, I am not picking on you, my point is to whine at IRCC....
Things got better. Then a second COVID wave came along, far worse than the first. So, perhaps Canada adjusts once again.
 

shank15

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Things got better. Then a second COVID wave came along, far worse than the first. So, perhaps Canada adjusts once again.
Yes, but I'm pretty sure waves will be coming every winter now. New seasonal flu. No point on keeping things on hold indefinitely. Better just to take the blunt of the hit and move along.
 
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ZAtoCD

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Yes, but I'm pretty sure waves will be coming every winter now. New seasonal flu. No point on keeping things on hold indefinitely. Better just to take the blunt of the hit and move along.
Not necessarily this hard and with this many deaths, so long as we vaccinate. Which is happening in Canada, but at a newly slowed pace due to factory tweaks. An IRCC agent confirmed to me that they're short-staffed at the moment. Right now, Canada's cases are really high, their vaccination roll-out has been slowed, and they've just implemented even stronger travel restrictions. So, if things are getting better, it's taking a long time. Ontario's economy isn't even fully open again yet.

I don't doubt that things will return to normal eventually, but public health is assumedly the number 1 priority right now. My app has been sitting untouched since October 2020, which indicates there could be a huge backlog. I feel bad for those waiting, but, I assume IRCC's not rushing to draw even more candidates right now. Whatever needs to be done to get this pandemic under control needs to be done. That's the only way things return to what we knew before it seems.
 

biancaoa

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Not necessarily this hard and with this many deaths, so long as we vaccinate. Which is happening in Canada, but at a newly slowed pace due to factory tweaks. An IRCC agent confirmed to me that they're short-staffed at the moment. Right now, Canada's cases are really high, their vaccination roll-out has been slowed, and they've just implemented even stronger travel restrictions. So, if things are getting better, it's taking a long time. Ontario's economy isn't even fully open again yet.

I don't doubt that things will return to normal eventually, but public health is assumedly the number 1 priority right now. My app has been sitting untouched since October 2020, which indicates there could be a huge backlog. I feel bad for those waiting, but, I assume IRCC's not rushing to draw even more candidates right now. Whatever needs to be done to get this pandemic under control needs to be done. That's the only way things return to what we knew before it seems.
Do you think that draw won’t come for more than 3 weeks ? I agree with you
 

saly118

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Not necessarily this hard and with this many deaths, so long as we vaccinate. Which is happening in Canada, but at a newly slowed pace due to factory tweaks. An IRCC agent confirmed to me that they're short-staffed at the moment. Right now, Canada's cases are really high, their vaccination roll-out has been slowed, and they've just implemented even stronger travel restrictions. So, if things are getting better, it's taking a long time. Ontario's economy isn't even fully open again yet.

I don't doubt that things will return to normal eventually, but public health is assumedly the number 1 priority right now. My app has been sitting untouched since October 2020, which indicates there could be a huge backlog. I feel bad for those waiting, but, I assume IRCC's not rushing to draw even more candidates right now. Whatever needs to be done to get this pandemic under control needs to be done. That's the only way things return to what we knew before it seems.
My friend, while I agree with you that there could be a significant backlog but I couldn't disagree more with you on IRCC discouragement to draw candidates. Canada now needs more fresh residents than before to accelerate post pandemic back to normal.
 

willapp

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My friend, while I agree with you that there could be a significant backlog but I couldn't disagree more with you on IRCC discouragement to draw candidates. Canada now needs more fresh residents than before to accelerate post pandemic back to normal.
There is no point of drawing if they cannot process and that’s why they only invite cec now. That's the realistic goal to meet the targets.
They let in hundreds of thousands of students so the supply is enough.
 
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Islander216

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While you can argue that more immigrants will help stimulate the country's economy, you can also just as easily argue that because of the job losses of locals it's not the right time to bring in a lot more new immigrants to increase competition for jobs, and increase pressure on government resources.

Now i think the need for immigration is recession proof as such, but this argument that immigration is this gravy train which will continue despite economic difficulties at the same rate and pace is still misplaced.

We've seen immigration cut in a lot of countries due to the pandemic, it doesn't mean that won't be the case for Canada eventually.

Don't want to be a debbie downer, but it's important to look at the situation objectively.
 
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seadrag0n

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While you can argue that more immigrants will help stimulate the country's economy, you can also just as easily argue that because of the job losses of locals it's not the right time to bring in a lot more new immigrants to increase competition for jobs, and increase pressure on government resources.

Now i think the need for immigration is recession proof as such, but this argument that immigration is this gravy train which will continue despite economic difficulties at the same rate and pace is still misplaced.

We've seen immigration cut in a lot of countries due to the pandemic, it doesn't mean that won't be the case for Canada eventually.

Don't want to be a debbie downer, but it's important to look at the situation objectively.
What is the point of making grand announcements like taking in 400k+ immigrants per year if IRCC is looking at the situation objectively?
 
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wildwind123

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What is the point of making grand announcements like taking in 400k+ immigrants per year if IRCC is looking at the situation objectively?
IRCC is prioritizing those already in Canada and turning the temporary workers and international students into PRs. And even if they didn't meet the 400k target, we would be bearing the consequences and IRCC has less to lose.
 

huyypeter

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In this situation, IRCC have reason to invite more CEC ppl, since most of CEC candidates are in Canada and currently working, especially in essential businesses, and I know that a lot of them need the Itas to open the Bridging Work Permits. It doesnt matter what IRCC announced, they will just do what's best for the economy in the contemporary case, many other countries even stopped accepting immigrants since the Covid.
But I think the 2nd wave is going to be stopped soon, looking at the chatrs. So we can expect fsw draws to come back soon, unlike last year. I cant imagine how many landing PRs will there be after the end of Covid..must be a lot a a lot
 
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Islander216

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What is the point of making grand announcements like taking in 400k+ immigrants per year if IRCC is looking at the situation objectively?
I'm just saying, things can change, a target is just that a target, it's not set in stone and it is subject to review and modification.

I still think there will be many invitations provided but things could change to a certain extent. There will also most likely be an election on the horizon and that can change things too.

They've never said explicitly that they would give CEC candidates preferential processing but they have, up to recently they were processed in the same way as FSW as well. Likewise, prior to last year CEC only draws were very rare, only one had been done way back in 2015 before it became a recurring theme last year. Now we're seeing that occur again.

The situation is fluid.
 
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fmfame

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Jan 2, 2021
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Hi, mine is 475, under the current pool it is a quite promising socre, but I cannot find suitable PNP with my NOC.
Another thing is my current job requires me to learn Spanish, so technically 475 is my highest as I cannot stand the language mix.
I am worried if IRCC keeps postoning FSW, and with the French score thing, the score will climb to a new level....
475 is a really good score, considering I rejected my last ITA and re-entered in the pool at 470 .
 
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