Ray of hope - FSW - 1
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everyone just chill I was just curious to know lol. there are definitely people who got better score than me
I did (actually, I'm doing it).
I started on late December very slowly, and then speed up on early January. By early March I passed the TCF Canada for the first time, and got CLB8 for both Reading and Listening skills. I didn't even tried the Speaking/Writing parts, at all. But, I can't deny the fact that my native language and french share a lot in common, so, it definitely helped on that regard.
At that time, with that score, I jumped to 475. So, I stopped studying for about 30-40 days, since I thought 475 would be enough. Unfortunately, the CEC/PNP nightmare persisted, and I realized I would lose 5 points by early June, so by mid April I came back to my studies in full force. Now, I'm 3 weeks away from attempting the test a second time. Now, I'm focusing on getting a B2 on the 4 skills, which would give me 36 extra points (on top of the points I already for from the first attempt). I'll update you guys if I succeed on my attempt. But I'm confident it's feasible to do it with 6-8 months of studies. It's extremely hard, but achievable.
I won't get tired of saying this on this forum: guys, stop being lazy, go study french if you REALLY want to make sure you'll get your ITA. The worst thing that can happen is that you'll won't need it, and you'll have a skill that might be valuable once you arrive in Canada.
Regarding the method, honestly, it's all about you. There's no one size fits all. Experience as many sites, youtube channels and so on, until you find the sources that will fit your needs. I don't think I can be used as reference, since my language learning process is way different than the average (for example, I almost never study grammar, and really 90% of my studies to Listening and learning visually).
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What's the minimum CLB you need in every category in order to get points? I would be worried on writing and little bit on speaking. Listening and reading should be the easier sections.
Hi all, i have a NOC question that would appreciate any comments and inputs. My company prepared a reference letter and the job description was copied from the company's job posting. Thus the job description on the letter does not seem to match any NOC directly. I know NOC is very important and IRCC officers might reject an application if NOC is wrong.
I chose NOC 1123 and would you kindly help check if that matches the job description or should I choose another one in my application.
Here is the job description I got on the reference letter:
The Market Associate’s primary responsibility is to ensure that Expedia Group’s hotel and property product in their assigned market is competitive, attractive and relevant for our fast-growing global customer base. In doing so, Market Associates will also continuously work with Expedia Group’s hotel and property partners to help them improve the marketing and distribution potential from their participation in the Expedia marketplace.
By providing and analyzing data specific to their market, Market Associates will work closely with hotel partners to:
I already got ITA in early July and would need to submit by September/October. Thank you so much!
I chose NOC 1123 and would you kindly help check if that matches the job description or should I choose another one in my application.
Here is the job description I got on the reference letter:
The Market Associate’s primary responsibility is to ensure that Expedia Group’s hotel and property product in their assigned market is competitive, attractive and relevant for our fast-growing global customer base. In doing so, Market Associates will also continuously work with Expedia Group’s hotel and property partners to help them improve the marketing and distribution potential from their participation in the Expedia marketplace.
By providing and analyzing data specific to their market, Market Associates will work closely with hotel partners to:
- Optimize content, rate and availability competitiveness on the Expedia sites to increase customer conversion
- Secure additional lodging rates and availability information over high demand and compression periods to satisfy customers’ pressing needs
- Secure promotional offers to support the brands’ merchandising and marketing efforts
- Educate hotel partners on the self-service features available on Expedia Partner Central
- Support Expedia’s business development efforts through smooth onboarding of new hotel partners
- Re-establish relationships with dormant hotel partners
- Support demand generation
- Support research to identify properties not currently listed on the Expedia marketplace
I already got ITA in early July and would need to submit by September/October. Thank you so much!
CLB5 will give you 1 point for each skill.
If you get CLB7 in all 4 skills, you'll get 3 points for each skill (therefore, 12 points) + a bonus of 30 points for the overall proficiency.
It pretty much grants you an ITA. It's WAY more simple (and "point" efficient) than trying to do a masters, Phd, or whatever. I would even say that the time you might need to jump from CLB9 to CLB10 in english could be about the same as the one you need to get a CLB7 in French.
With CLB9/10 in English and CLB7 in French, pretty much anyone can jump to the 490's (and above).
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Hi everyone, can anyone please provide a sample of reference letter for an employee that held several positions in the same organisation?
Thanks.
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I am native Spanish speaker, and also speak Portugues, plus English, with those languages as background, it gives me a good start. I have also taken a couple of beginner classes + self study through apps. Planning to continue my french studies with classes plus the self study with apps.
I usually say that once you know English + Portuguese/Spanish/Italian, you will be familiar with at least 50-70% of all of the words in a french sentence. Almost all the words I study are either similar to Portuguese, or English. That makes the learning process easier. (Yet, conjugaison continues to be a nightmare, when compared to the simplicity of English)
This is just the humble advice from a student of foreign languages: For anyone who doesn’t already speak a Romance language, I would recommend actively studying grammar. The grammar of Romance languages is different enough from English that it would be a little complex to pick it up solely from exposure if you’re not already aware of it. Additionally, French (and I believe Spanish, Portuguese and Italian as well) contain verb moods that don’t even exist in English (eg. Subjunctive). IMO, it’s easier to learn such things when you’ve studied them purposefully rather than stumbling upon them and not knowing why/when such grammatical concepts are used. Nonetheless, everyone learns differently and one should try different methods to see what works.
Exactly, conjugations are another thing where actively learning grammatical conjugations will make learning more efficient (although it’s insanely boring and coming from English, infuriating lol).
You've hit the nail on it's head. You cannot term intensive study of a language with a proficiency goal in mind without being familiar with the rules that provide the glue. It is like endeavouring to construct an elaborate building without knowing the design principles.
I started learning French from scratch since end February this year. Apart from speaking English, no other inherent advantages as Bengali is my mother tongue. I started out with an excellent French grammar primer cum exercise book and did it thoroughly twice (especially the exercises) the verb conjugations and the articles in French follow a different rule altogether and you will stumble later if you don't grasp them early enough. There is a section on writing as also language structure (TCF) and you cannot wing them.
Once you are able to decipher entire sentences, start reading French online dailies like Le Monde, practice writing short pieces etc and of course listen to RFI radio and other podcasts (with transcripts)
Spoken proficiency is a different matter altogether and am yet to wrap my head around it. Tutoring will probably be needed in this section at some stage. Perhaps a WA group where there is at least a few members with native proficiency can help.
Of course, prior knowledge of any romance language and a good grounding in English (something many former Commonwealth citizens can rely on) gives you a headstart. This project is not impossible if you are willing to devote at least 6 months of REGULAR prep. Another month or twos exam prep will be needed. I don't think AF courses will help unless taking the TCF is a goal which lies in the somewhat distant future. Get a tutor if you're lucky to get a good one and have a lot of spare cash lying around
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