Ray Of Hope-86th Draw

[vensak]

I wish Canada can allow applicants to add their spouse/common-law partner foreign work experience. I think they should do it. If the spouse will accompany the main applicant, then the spouse will be a major factor to contribute to the Canadian economy. It makes sense

We should start a thread about this. Maybe voices will be heard?

you can add it. That is not forbidden. However it will not give you any additional points. So I guess what you wanted to say is that one will get some points for it.
The fact is, that even main applicant does not get any points for the foreign experience as such (of course when we are talking about CRS score).
The points are for transferability and that is combination of a work experience and language skills.

 

[AJ2186]

you can add it. That is not forbidden. However it will not give you any additional points. So I guess what you wanted to say is that one will get some points for it.
The fact is, that even main applicant does not get any points for the foreign experience as such (of course when we are talking about CRS score).
The points are for transferability and that is combination of a work experience and language skills.

Yes exactly. If main applicants spouses/common-law partners have a foreign work experience, then applicants should gain additional points for this. The partner will also work and contribute to Canada. So yeah I wish this can happen.

Maybe Canada can start allowing main applicants to gain CRS points for partners foreign work experience then maybe in 2019, 2020...Canada can allow applicants to gain points for partners age. I believe its a win/win situation...and Canada can achieve its 1M immigrants by 2020.

 

[Rawhide]

if you are a FTE to a American client company then there is nothing to worry... why are you worried..
Only people with EC model are worried little, EVC little more and EVVC worried much more

Not worried....but I had enough off h1b....as soon as I get my PR I will have my employer transfer me to Toronto office.

 

[Rawhide]

Question: How did you enter your work experience into your Express Entry profile? Did you enter a separate row for your US xp? What about the supporting documents for it?

Supporting documents were salary slips, tax filing ....actually I have a immigration attorney so I don't know exact details

 

[vmsanthosh]

Are you saying that applications from H1B guys are being processed on priority?

Well, are we chasing behind a problem that doesn't exist at all? In my view, US is no different from any other country as for as Canada's concern. Even if you have masters from US, it is no different from masters from your home country, isn't it? I am not sure if they are giving any additional benefits for folks from US than others, except for being able to just convert their drivers license to a G license directly. Let's cut the myth that all H1Bs are super-powers and can scoop it in a swipe.

I was on H1, completed all 6 yrs in US, bachelors, aged 42, on WP in Ottawa, but sitting at just < 400. However, fully filled with HOPE. I couldn't get high score in ielts yet, and that's what we are working on currently. Attempted twice, but couldn't go beyond CLB 7, maybe that's what it is, but yes - this is ray-of-hope.

I am damn sure, we will crack it one day. After all it is, just an ielts or may be one another degree if needed. In worst case, who knows at some point, I may get some startup idea and may apply for SUV program

 

[vensak]

Yes exactly. If main applicants spouses/common-law partners have a foreign work experience, then applicants should gain additional points for this. The partner will also work and contribute to Canada. So yeah I wish this can happen.

Maybe Canada can start allowing main applicants to gain CRS points for partners foreign work experience then maybe in 2019, 2020...Canada can allow applicants to gain points for partners age. I believe its a win/win situation...and Canada can achieve its 1M immigrants by 2020.

As always, what you say will be advantageous for some and disadvantageous for others.
But as a result it would only increase CRS cut off (unless other parts of the spouse score is compensated against it - like points for language and education).

 

[Cubicrootofthee]

The wait times for PR / green card in US are very high for Indian citizens (Right now applications from Dec 2008 are being processed for master degree holders). It might not be in companies' or US interest to clear these backlogs when people are willing to just stay on h1bs. People may recognize this and just try to hold the Canadian PR now when they are relatively young. Also, add to the fact that there is immense pressure to remove work authorization of H1b spouses - there is a decision coming out on this in June. Not all H1b spouses have work authorization - only whose green card application has advanced to a particular stage.

Great reply. I just want to add one clarification that eventually seems to lead every conversation regarding a H1B holder to the same place.

H1B holders may have a Master's degree. This is optional.
If you have a certain number of years of work experience, you get to file for a green card in the same category as someone with a Master's degree (EB2).
So, the Dec 2008 date applies for people from both streams (viewed as one category). This leads to a huge increase in the number of people in the category from the fact that you can upgrade your petition classification from EB3 to EB2 once you meet the criteria while preserving your cut-off date. This leads to every increasing size of the queue (not theoretically but practically). Only 50k GCs can be granted per country of birth. But this includes the entire family. So, approximately only 12.5k primary applicants. So, this makes it even worse.

A lot of people I work with (on H1B) don't have a US Master's degree (or a Master's degree for that matter). They just happen to have accumulated a lot of years of work experience (easier to understand when you factor in that they don't spend the extra 2 odd years studying).
The US Master's degree only helps improve one's chance of getting a H1B in the lottery the very first time.

We used to joke around in our offices that we'd have our US born kids sponsors us when they turn 21(yes, grim). But even that is being delt a blow with talk of family reunification being referred to as "chain migration" by the current president.

So, there's my take on how things stand that precipitate this Exodus.

 

[Ovcar]

Well, are we chasing behind a problem that doesn't exist at all? In my view, US is no different from any other country as for as Canada's concern. Even if you have masters from US, it is no different from masters from your home country, isn't it? I am not sure if they are giving any additional benefits for folks from US than others, except for being able to just convert their drivers license to a G license directly. Let's cut the myth that all H1Bs are super-powers and can scoop it in a swipe.

I was on H1, completed all 6 yrs in US, bachelors, aged 42, on WP in Ottawa, but sitting at just < 400. However, fully filled with HOPE. I couldn't get high score in ielts yet, and that's what we are working on currently. Attempted twice, but couldn't go beyond CLB 7, maybe that's what it is, but yes - this is ray-of-hope.

I am damn sure, we will crack it one day. After all it is, just an ielts or may be one another degree if needed. In worst case, who knows at some point, I may get some startup idea and may apply for SUV program

I personally think that most of people here see you as a threat In general, more people on H1 are far more likely to have better IELTS score as they live in an English-speaking country. In addition, majority of people on H1 as far as I could see have at least bachelor degree so they have many points on education as well. Not only that, but in perspective, if all of those or at least significant minority (let's sey 20 per cent) of those living in USA on H1B decide they want to try Canada at approximately the same time and consider Canada as a viable alternative, that really can pose a problem in terms of CRS score needed.
The number of people in the pool last year circulated around (not sure of this) 50-70000, and app 86000 invitations were issued. How many of those in USA on H1 want to move to Canada in the near future, that is the real question.

 

[Cubicrootofthee]

I personally think that most of people here see you as a threat In general, more people on H1 are far more likely to have better IELTS score as they live in an English-speaking country. In addition, majority of people on H1 as far as I could see have at least bachelor degree so they have many points on education as well. Not only that, but in perspective, if all of those or at least significant minority (let's sey 20 per cent) of those living in USA on H1B decide they want to try Canada at approximately the same time and consider Canada as a viable alternative, that really can pose a problem in terms of CRS score needed.
The number of people in the pool last year circulated around (not sure of this) 50-70000, and app 86000 invitations were issued. How many of those in USA on H1 want to move to Canada in the near future, that is the real question.

I absolutely see the sentiment as valid and not preposterous.
In the larger context though, everyone is an economic migrant, each trying to get away from a perceived/real bad situation. At this time though, I can say that it is a very small minority that are attempting to move. Certainly nowhere near 20%. People are apprehensive of change. And the lowered salary is a deterrent for many.

 

[maanharvir]

You have 3 options so go for whatever is easier for you:
1. Get 1 year Master degree on the top of your bachelor. It is 1 year investment and will cost you 5 points on age but you will get 30+ points instead (full transferability and additional points for eductation).
2. learn French - it will cost you 1-3 years (depending how fast you learn) and you can get 30+ points. But at the same time you will loose 5 to 15 points because of aging.
3. Get work experience for your spouse (especially is she is younger). It does not have to be her studies related, but it has to be 0, A or B type. Depending on how much she miss, it will cost 1-3 years to max out transferability for her. At the same time she can get her English maxed out. And if she is younger then she would have more points for age.
4. Check if you are eligible for any of opened PNP streams

Choice is yours

this one year Masters need to be full-time or it can be done part-time as well?

 

[vensak]

this one year Masters need to be full-time or it can be done part-time as well?

All it needs that at the end you have one diploma stating Master. It does not matter if you go to school during the weekdays or during the weekend or if you do most of it as a distance learning and then just pass the exams.
But as long as it will be accepted as a master (and Master is min. 1 years studies), then all is good.

 

[diliprath]

Sorry to say but i know 4 people who recently applied and all of them are above 450 but it would be hard to generalize this because of miss-use of H1 visas and probability of those folks applying for EE.

Mine was 445 - H1B - Bachelors from India.

 

[kavi21186]

Hi Folks,

After being a passive reader for 9 months, thought of saying Hello!!

Brief background:

IELTS: 9,9,7.5,7.5 (Got it around December 2017)
Education: B.Tech (Got my ECA on Feb 6th 2018)
Exp: 10+ Years
Occuption: Data Architect
CRS:450
Location: India

Hopefully waiting for an ITA on 86th Draw.

Best Regards,
Kavi

 

[OdinNguyen]

Hi Folks,

After being a passive reader for 9 months, thought of saying Hello!!

Brief background:

IELTS: 9,9,7.5,7.5 (Got it around December 2017)
Education: B.Tech (Got my ECA on Feb 6th 2018)
Exp: 10+ Years
Occuption: Data Architect
CRS:450
Location: India

Hopefully waiting for an ITA on 86th Draw.

Best Regards,
Kavi

Shouldn't you have an ITA on Feb 21? Did you check your spam folder?

 

[gg9868]

Hi guys,

I have a question, I have electronic copies of my police certificate. However, the real copy was lost in the mail, do I need to apply for another police certificate? Or I can just submit the scanned document and they won't even ask for a real copy?