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harman_778

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i am afraid , i tend to disagree completely with your assesment & viewpoint ...last 6 months have clearly shown that CRS score is being manipulated to keep the scores above a threshold . The reason for manipulating the CRS score above 430 mark is not because they feel people below 430 are less qualified . The planning of such a large country & government cannot be so wrong that they miscalculated & started issuing 3700 ITA's & last months they have reduced the no of ITA's to 2700. This is clearly a planned move on their part because had they kept drawing 3700 , the scores could have gone below 400 mark this year itself which probably is not part of their scheme of things for this year . Scores will go down & destined to go down but they have purposely holded that off for next year . There are probably only 100-150 people in the 432-435 score band & they could easily have drawn 100 more people in the last draw to reduce the cut off further but they didnt . Not coming out with draws for practically 2 months in june - july , coming out with an odd draw on friday or thursday , holding off draws for 3 weeks is all part of a plan to keep the cut off above 425 - 430 for 2017 . had the scores reached below 400 this year , the cut off's would have gone to 350 perhaps in next year which would have meant lesser people opting for PNP's . Everyone who has been waiting for the 2018 quota to be announced , i highly doubt , it will come into practice before jan 2018 . They will keep scores in the 10 point range 425-435. They will the PNP quota in the 1st quarter of 2018 itself while the CRS cut off's are still higher & then bring down the scores to 375.


Few of us here pointing out to the number of ITAs issued this year and thinking that IRCC setting a CRS cap above 430 and purposely holding it. No this is not correct! If you understand the economic category immigration system of Canada then you should know that eligibility criteria is not based on high CRS scores it is purely based on six selection factors where you need to score 67/100 points (age, education, work experience, whether you have a valid job offer, English and/or French language skills and adaptability (how well you’re likely to settle there)). If a person scores minimum 67 points then he/she is eligible to join the Express Entry pool. CRS score only ranks a person based on his/her selection factors, it does not make some one more or less eligible than others. Just ability to speak good English or French can boost someone's score by 50 to 100 points, does it mean who is a masters or phd holder with 10 years of experience is less eligible than one who got invitation with high language proficiency but only with a bachelor degree and one year of experience? Certainly not.

It is true that they want people who can easily cope in the vibrant Canadian society however they must have also know that a skillful person with moderate language ability can also be very handy for their economic growth. This is the reason they have set that six selection factor 100 points as eligibility criteria not that Comprehensive Ranking Systems Points. It is just the capacity of their system to handle application and new entrants that made them to set a annual immigration target and number of ITAs per draw. One more point- if Ontario consider and send NOI all people at or above 400 and IT professional below 400 (who is eligible on six selection factors) are eligible to live and work in Canada then how on earth IRCC would cap people based on CRS points?

This draw system is such that it slowly but certainly will decrease over the time and invite everyone who is eligible and got moderate language ability, if not all with minimum eligibility. CRS score is not a criteria to be invited, it is the 100 point selection points which is important here so this CRS cutoff point is bound to go down to 400 and below. Just be patience and let the bottle neck clear up above 420, it is coming down soon![/QUOT
 
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Few of us here pointing out to the number of ITAs issued this year and thinking that IRCC setting a CRS cap above 430 and purposely holding it. No this is not correct! If you understand the economic category immigration system of Canada then you should know that eligibility criteria is not based on high CRS scores it is purely based on six selection factors where you need to score 67/100 points (age, education, work experience, whether you have a valid job offer, English and/or French language skills and adaptability (how well you’re likely to settle there)). If a person scores minimum 67 points then he/she is eligible to join the Express Entry pool. CRS score only ranks a person based on his/her selection factors, it does not make some one more or less eligible than others. Just ability to speak good English or French can boost someone's score by 50 to 100 points, does it mean who is a masters or phd holder with 10 years of experience is less eligible than one who got invitation with high language proficiency but only with a bachelor degree and one year of experience? Certainly not.

It is true that they want people who can easily cope in the vibrant Canadian society however they must have also know that a skillful person with moderate language ability can also be very handy for their economic growth. This is the reason they have set that six selection factor 100 points as eligibility criteria not that Comprehensive Ranking Systems Points. It is just the capacity of their system to handle application and new entrants that made them to set a annual immigration target and number of ITAs per draw. One more point- if Ontario consider and send NOI all people at or above 400 and IT professional below 400 (who is eligible on six selection factors) are eligible to live and work in Canada then how on earth IRCC would cap people based on CRS points?

This draw system is such that it slowly but certainly will decrease over the time and invite everyone who is eligible and got moderate language ability, if not all with minimum eligibility. CRS score is not a criteria to be invited, it is the 100 point selection points which is important here so this CRS cutoff point is bound to go down to 400 and below. Just be patience and let the bottle neck clear up above 420, it is coming down soon!
Exactly my point which i discuss few pages back in the same thread.:)
 
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Has someone got their ECA from IQAS recently? Need to confirm their updated processing times. I got my AOR yesterday.
They took less than a month in my case. I got my AOR in last week of Aug and was expecting my ECA in Nov, but surprisingly got in last week of Sep.
 

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Has someone got their ECA from IQAS recently? Need to confirm their updated processing times. I got my AOR yesterday.
Minimum 9 weeks or in some cases more. Been waiting for my brother ECA since 2nd Aug 2017
 

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i am afraid , i tend to disagree completely with your assesment & viewpoint ...last 6 months have clearly shown that CRS score is being manipulated to keep the scores above a threshold . The reason for manipulating the CRS score above 430 mark is not because they feel people below 430 are less qualified . The planning of such a large country & government cannot be so wrong that they miscalculated & started issuing 3700 ITA's & last months they have reduced the no of ITA's to 2700. This is clearly a planned move on their part because had they kept drawing 3700 , the scores could have gone below 400 mark this year itself which probably is not part of their scheme of things for this year . Scores will go down & destined to go down but they have purposely holded that off for next year . There are probably only 100-150 people in the 432-435 score band & they could easily have drawn 100 more people in the last draw to reduce the cut off further but they didnt . Not coming out with draws for practically 2 months in june - july , coming out with an odd draw on friday or thursday , holding off draws for 3 weeks is all part of a plan to keep the cut off above 425 - 430 for 2017 . had the scores reached below 400 this year , the cut off's would have gone to 350 perhaps in next year which would have meant lesser people opting for PNP's . Everyone who has been waiting for the 2018 quota to be announced , i highly doubt , it will come into practice before jan 2018 . They will keep scores in the 10 point range 425-435. They will the PNP quota in the 1st quarter of 2018 itself while the CRS cut off's are still higher & then bring down the scores to 375.
Has anyone else noticed how harman is spelled very similar to sharma?
harma-n ... harma ... S-harma ... Sharma123 :p
 

ishq74

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i am afraid , i tend to disagree completely with your assesment & viewpoint ...last 6 months have clearly shown that CRS score is being manipulated to keep the scores above a threshold . The reason for manipulating the CRS score above 430 mark is not because they feel people below 430 are less qualified . The planning of such a large country & government cannot be so wrong that they miscalculated & started issuing 3700 ITA's & last months they have reduced the no of ITA's to 2700. This is clearly a planned move on their part because had they kept drawing 3700 , the scores could have gone below 400 mark this year itself which probably is not part of their scheme of things for this year . Scores will go down & destined to go down but they have purposely holded that off for next year . There are probably only 100-150 people in the 432-435 score band & they could easily have drawn 100 more people in the last draw to reduce the cut off further but they didnt . Not coming out with draws for practically 2 months in june - july , coming out with an odd draw on friday or thursday , holding off draws for 3 weeks is all part of a plan to keep the cut off above 425 - 430 for 2017 . had the scores reached below 400 this year , the cut off's would have gone to 350 perhaps in next year which would have meant lesser people opting for PNP's . Everyone who has been waiting for the 2018 quota to be announced , i highly doubt , it will come into practice before jan 2018 . They will keep scores in the 10 point range 425-435. They will the PNP quota in the 1st quarter of 2018 itself while the CRS cut off's are still higher & then bring down the scores to 375.
They have their limitations (i. e men power, budget, internal policies etc.) and bringing immigrants is not a high priority government task. They only issue number of ITAs which they are capable of handle considering how many pending applications they are processing. Also they do not want to put pressure on their society (housing, school, university, health care etc.) by let hundreds of thousands people suddenly entering into the job market and society. It should be a steady procedure that is why they have this annual target. Moreover about 30 to 40 % ITAs get wasted (declined, rejected etc.) so to meet their annual target before the end of the year they must issue high number of ITAs at the first half of the year. They know these people who could not capitalize the ITAs will join the pool again. If they can ensure they are near their target numbers after first half off the year then they can be on peace of mind later part of the year and won't be much bothered about the declined ITAs. this is could be a reason behind of issuing less number of ITAs at the end part of the year. As the ministers already discussing about introducing multi year plan; if that gets approval than surely we won't see much fluctuation of ITAs and a steady ITA number will definitely fetch every eligible person in the future. This steady approach is never going to stop CRS score going down. As you said benefit of the new quota will not reflect right after the announcement but definitely over the next six months.
 

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i am afraid , i tend to disagree completely with your assesment & viewpoint ...last 6 months have clearly shown that CRS score is being manipulated to keep the scores above a threshold . The reason for manipulating the CRS score above 430 mark is not because they feel people below 430 are less qualified . The planning of such a large country & government cannot be so wrong that they miscalculated & started issuing 3700 ITA's & last months they have reduced the no of ITA's to 2700. This is clearly a planned move on their part because had they kept drawing 3700 , the scores could have gone below 400 mark this year itself which probably is not part of their scheme of things for this year . Scores will go down & destined to go down but they have purposely holded that off for next year . There are probably only 100-150 people in the 432-435 score band & they could easily have drawn 100 more people in the last draw to reduce the cut off further but they didnt . Not coming out with draws for practically 2 months in june - july , coming out with an odd draw on friday or thursday , holding off draws for 3 weeks is all part of a plan to keep the cut off above 425 - 430 for 2017 . had the scores reached below 400 this year , the cut off's would have gone to 350 perhaps in next year which would have meant lesser people opting for PNP's . Everyone who has been waiting for the 2018 quota to be announced , i highly doubt , it will come into practice before jan 2018 . They will keep scores in the 10 point range 425-435. They will the PNP quota in the 1st quarter of 2018 itself while the CRS cut off's are still higher & then bring down the scores to 375.
If they wanted to keep the score above 425-430, why whould they have huge draws in april may and let the CRS go to 413. In my opinion, the draw size is based on 2 things only.

1. Annual quota of ITAs
2. Processing capacity to finish within 6 months of applying.

The reason why they had high draw size in the beginning of the year was probably because of the above mentioned factors. We could hopefully see another burst of ITAs given that the earlier ITAs must be processed by now.

As far as PNP is concerned OINP can always revise their 400 CRS benchmark any time without notice.

Best of luck
 

harman_778

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respect your viewpoint but i dont agree with it...We are drawing close to this year , with only 2 months to go , we shall see whose analysis is correct ...till then lets keep guessing coz thats all we can do
They have their limitations (i. e men power, budget, internal policies etc.) and bringing immigrants is not a high priority government task. They only issue number of ITAs which they are capable of handle considering how many pending applications they are processing. Also they do not want to put pressure on their society (housing, school, university, health care etc.) by let hundreds of thousands people suddenly entering into the job market and society. It should be a steady procedure that is why they have this annual target. Moreover about 30 to 40 % ITAs get wasted (declined, rejected etc.) so to meet their annual target before the end of the year they must issue high number of ITAs at the first half of the year. They know these people who could not capitalize the ITAs will join the pool again. If they can ensure they are near their target numbers after first half off the year then they can be on peace of mind later part of the year and won't be much bothered about the declined ITAs. this is could be a reason behind of issuing less number of ITAs at the end part of the year. As the ministers already discussing about introducing multi year plan; if that gets approval than surely we won't see much fluctuation of ITAs and a steady ITA number will definitely fetch every eligible person in the future. This steady approach is never going to stop CRS score going down. As you said benefit of the new quota will not reflect right after the announcement but definitely over the next six months.
 
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harman_778

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atleast my real name is mentioned here unlike you whose fake dandy something name appears here ...btw ...Sharma's 1st name also starts with D so does that make you sharma as well...jerk
seriously ...so anyone giving their view point which is contrary to your becomes a D Sharma ...grow up