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Ray of HOPE *50th Draw*(Score Prediction)

Alexios07 said:
Haha, you are very funny.

Giving more points to Canadian degrees is a way to attract more international students to come to Canada and spend their money here, instead of US, UK or Australia.

The changes have been made very recently, so obviously it takes time to make the score to go down. More points for Canadian degrees doesn't mean if you were an int'l students, you will be guaranteed an ITA.
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yeah but how come the net effect was the opposite of what was expected. LMIA holders(600 points) are gone from the pool. This should have REDUCED pressure on the crs score rather than increasing it. The only explanation that comes to mind is that maybe there were candidates with Canadian masters and 2+ yrs experience. Plus because they skipped a draw in Nov and the number of people invited were less maybe thats why its higher but still 497 was completely unexpected.

I dont understand why they dont see the benefit international students provide. We've been in Canada for a while, are ALREADY working in skilled jobs contributing to the economy and paying taxes. If that wasn't the case we wouldn't be eligible to even enter the pool. But for the last almost TWO years(before the changes) they have brought in people with LOW human capital and ruined it for brilliant Candidates that could have started contributing directly to the economy right away. I can bet you anything that most of those people with LOW human capital are going to have tons of kids, or bring their families as dependents and be a net drain on the economy via child benefit payments or welfare.
 
Aspiring Canadian said:
yeah but how come the net effect was the opposite of what was expected. LMIA holders(600 points) are gone from the pool. This should have REDUCED pressure on the crs score rather than increasing it. The only explanation that comes to mind is that maybe there were candidates with Canadian masters and 2+ yrs experience. Plus because they skipped a draw in Nov and the number of people invited were less maybe thats why its higher but still 497 was completely unexpected.

I dont understand why they dont see the benefit international students provide. We've been in Canada for a while, are ALREADY working in skilled jobs contributing to the economy and paying taxes. If that wasn't the case we wouldn't be eligible to even enter the pool. But for the last almost TWO years(before the changes) they have brought in people with LOW human capital and ruined it for brilliant Candidates that could have started contributing directly to the economy right away. I can bet you anything that most of those people with LOW human capital are going to have tons of kids, or bring their families as dependents and be a net drain on the economy via child benefit payments or welfare.
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Are you kidding me? 23 yr olds aren't necessarily equipped to be good citizens just because they know the layout of the city their uni was in. Certainly not compared to a 30 yr old who has a bit more worldly knowledge.

Anyway, the 30/15 points gives them a huge leg up as well as reducing the 600 points for all those low skilled workers instant PR. It's much fairer now. I'm looking forward to the gradual slide down to 400 CRS in 2017. Including both non Canadian and Canadian students.
 
ahmedhere said:
Is there any hope for 483? :/
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Really, REALLY? Of course there is. You'll get an ITA in the next round.
 
Aspiring Canadian said:
yeah but how come the net effect was the opposite of what was expected. LMIA holders(600 points) are gone from the pool. This should have REDUCED pressure on the crs score rather than increasing it. The only explanation that comes to mind is that maybe there were candidates with Canadian masters and 2+ yrs experience. Plus because they skipped a draw in Nov and the number of people invited were less maybe thats why its higher but still 497 was completely unexpected.

I dont understand why they dont see the benefit international students provide. We've been in Canada for a while, are ALREADY working in skilled jobs contributing to the economy and paying taxes. If that wasn't the case we wouldn't be eligible to even enter the pool. But for the last almost TWO years(before the changes) they have brought in people with LOW human capital and ruined it for brilliant Candidates that could have started contributing directly to the economy right away. I can bet you anything that most of those people with LOW human capital are going to have tons of kids, or bring their families as dependents and be a net drain on the economy via child benefit payments or welfare.
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Calm down pal. Like I said, it takes time for the score to swell down. The changes they made have eliminated most of the loopholes you mentioned. Adding more points for Canadian degrees doesn't change the fact that former int'l students with low score still remain in low ranks, while those with high score will have a better chance to compete with FSWs.

If you have a Canadian bachelor degree, clb 9 and 2 years of Canadian work exp, you now can earn 490 CRS.
 
if these changes were to benefit canada on competitive grounds to attract more students than US, UK, Australia etc. then does it mean that their (Canada) embassies will not reject any student visa on the ground that this candidate looks to be potential PR and will not come back to its own country?????

Those who are advocating the points increase was canadian education industry demand should answer this and should answer why the student visas are getting rejected on a candidate becoming potential PR???
 
Pitlord said:
When I entered the pool CIC issued me a 16 point checklist that I must go through. There is no a single word about medical.
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If you google EE document checklist, there are only (2) things listed under mandatory - Medical Exam and Police Certificate.
 
kryt0n said:
I'm looking forward to the gradual slide down to 400 CRS in 2017. Including both non Canadian and Canadian students.
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I personally don't think the cut off score will ever touch the 400 CRS. 440 or 430 CRS might be the new base.
 
430.....mine is 434.. :D
 
Aspiring Canadian said:
yeah but how come the net effect was the opposite of what was expected. LMIA holders(600 points) are gone from the pool. This should have REDUCED pressure on the crs score rather than increasing it. The only explanation that comes to mind is that maybe there were candidates with Canadian masters and 2+ yrs experience. Plus because they skipped a draw in Nov and the number of people invited were less maybe thats why its higher but still 497 was completely unexpected.

I dont understand why they dont see the benefit international students provide. We've been in Canada for a while, are ALREADY working in skilled jobs contributing to the economy and paying taxes. If that wasn't the case we wouldn't be eligible to even enter the pool. But for the last almost TWO years(before the changes) they have brought in people with LOW human capital and ruined it for brilliant Candidates that could have started contributing directly to the economy right away. I can bet you anything that most of those people with LOW human capital are going to have tons of kids, or bring their families as dependents and be a net drain on the economy via child benefit payments or welfare.
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no it was not opposite we still dont have a clear idea of the effect. I believe that there are 3 reasons for the high score last time.
1. Draw was conducted after 4 weeks meaning general draw dont count the PNP draw.
2. more PNP were approved
3. and some open work permit holders got employment points
so lets wait and see what happens
 
kryt0n said:
Are you kidding me? 23 yr olds aren't necessarily equipped to be good citizens just because they know the layout of the city their uni was in. Certainly not compared to a 30 yr old who has a bit more worldly knowledge.

Anyway, the 30/15 points gives them a huge leg up as well as reducing the 600 points for all those low skilled workers instant PR. It's much fairer now. I'm looking forward to the gradual slide down to 400 CRS in 2017. Including both non Canadian and Canadian students.
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Ok I honestly love you a lot based on your previous posts and your one of my favourite on here but I'm going to respectfully disagree. I'm not comparing FSW's with international students. I think both parties are excellent candidates. But categorizing international students as "23 year old's that know the layout of their city in which their uni was in" is very unfair. ONLY international students that have SKILLED job with one year of SKILLED experience are even allowed to enter the pool, and that only if their english skills are almost excellent. At my place of work most people managers are in their mid 20's and they are managing some of the key decisions in the financial sector in this country. International students have been around for a WHILE and they have already adapted to Canadian life and made connections. The logic is simple if you've already lived in a country for a number of years and you are highly educated and skilled AND you have a skilled job OBVIOUSLY you will be amazing citizens. I have friends all over Canada now that are GREAT networks for job opportunities. My uni was in another province and I work in another province now, Ive seen Canada, I feel like I am from here, Ive been to thanksgiving dinners, been camping, made some amazing friends. Plus I was only 19 when I came here now I'm 26. I AM ready to be an amazing citizen.

anyways rant over lol
 
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