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nothing will change after elections
Lol we will see.
By the way i think in April I predicated that the score will never go below 455 at that time some people like you were criticized me but we can see the reality.
 
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Lol we will see.
By the way i think in April I predicated that the score will never go below 455 at that time some people like you were criticized me but we can see the reality.

Even if anything is going to change,It's not going to be immediately,any party thaat assume office in nov will still have to study the situation.if anything is gonna change that will be nxt year
 

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Hi all,

I need your advice guys, I have 1 year experience on an open work permit, anyone know if I can consider my job offer and add it to my profile if it's from the same employer even if it's without LMIA?
 

Milanarora

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Lol we will see.
By the way i think in April I predicated that the score will never go below 455 at that time some people like you were criticized me but we can see the reality.
I make a prediction in August today that score will go below 455 before the year ends, it might come back and stay between 455 to 460. Trends in 2018 shows us that 3900 ITA's were issued biweekly starting Sept and went on like that till Jan this year. 10 or 11 draws biweekly with 3900 each. Things will be normal from here....no more surprises CIC :)
 
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This draw was quite a surprise... I don't think many of us were expecting a Monday draw! I wonder what made them choose to do that. Perhaps they'll resume their bi-weekly drawings on August 21st? Or, perhaps they'll wait longer. This year has gone somewhat differently than was anticipated and I feel bad that the cutoffs are just out of reach for some people who would have otherwise made it in this same time last year. Express Entry is becoming increasingly popular and the pool keeps on growing.
 

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Ok. Correction guys and thanks @EnthuChap for pointing it out.

After the 12th August draw CRS distribution data, I suppose to write on the following "NOTE" From 7,001 of 451-600 score range, 3,990 were those in 451-459 range left from 24th July draw and the rest of 3,011 will be of score 451-466 only Not 466-600.

Let's assume that from 3,011, 70% of it (2,108) will be in range of 460-466 and 30% (903) will be in 451-459 range.

So, by 21th August, the score distribution would be approximately:
601-1,200 = 423(47x9days)
451-600 =9,548(7,001+2,547(283x9days))
441-450 = 8,030(7,931+ 99(11x9days))


Let's also assume that from 2,547 newly added profile between 12th-21th Aug in 451-600 score range, 1,783(70%) are those who have score 460-600 and 764(30%) are of 451-459 range.

If CIC issues 3,600 ITAs, the cut off will be approximately 463-464
3,600 minus:
-423 (601-1200)
-1,783 (466-600 newly added profile)
-1,394(of 2,108 in 460-466 range left from 12th August draw)



If CIC issues 3,900 ITAs, the cut off will be approximately 462-463.
3,900 minus:
-423 (601-1200)
-1,783 (466-600 newly added profile)
-1,694(of 2,108 in 460-466 range left from 12th August draw)

If CIC issues 4,000 ITAs, the cut off will be approximately 462-463.
4,000 minus:
-423 (601-1200)
-1,783 (466-600 newly added profile)
-1,794(of 2,108 in 460-466 range left from 12th August draw)
I used same logic as yours but slightly different assumption in score distribution, and my calculations are as following:


July 24 after draw:
[451-600] = [451-459] = 3990;

Aug 12 before draw:
[451-600] = 9657.

Meaning, from July 24 - Aug 12, new adding [451-600] = 9657 - 3990 = 5667,
among which, 2656 were [466-600] (as 2656 received ITA on Aug 12).

So from July 24 - Aug 12,
[466-600]% of [451-600] is 2656/5667 = 47%;
i.e. in the same period,
[451-465] = 5667-2656 = 3011.

After Aug 12 draw:
[451-465] = 7001, among which at least 3990 are [451-459] left from July 24, so at most [460-465] = 3011

—————— Draw on Aug 21

By Aug 21

[451-600] = 9548, among which 2547 are from Aug 12-21.

ASSUME still 47% will be [466-600], then:
[466-600] = 2547*47% = 1197
[451-465] = 1350 new + 7001 old = 8351

SUPPOSE:
1) all the [451-465] from July 24 - Aug 12 are [460-465], i.e. [460-465] = 3011;
2) all the [451-465] from Aug 12-21 are [460-465], i.e. [460-465] = 1350;
(which are both the worst cases) then:


By Aug 21, distribution will be:
[600+] = 423;
[466-600] = 1197;
[460-465] = 3011 + 1350 = 4361 at most;
[451-459] = 3990 at least (left from July 24 draw).

So if 3600 ITA, Aug 21 draw will clear 3600 - 423 - 1197 = 1980 of [460-465] which is 45.4% of the 4361 [460-465].

SUPPOSE profile distribution of each score is even, then cut off will be
465 - 6*45.4% = 465 - 2.72 = 463 with about 28% [463] left in the pool.

Since these [463] are all added after July 24, and SUPPOSE equal [463] profiles everyday in the 28 days, then tiebreaker will be Aug 21 - (28*28%) = ~ Aug 13.

And leaves in the pool,
[460-463] = 2381
[451-459] = 3990.

And this is almost the worst case.

(If 3900 ITA, cut-off will be 462 with only 15% of [462] cleared, i.e. tiebreaker will be ~July 28. Not much a difference.)



—————— Draw on Aug 28

By Aug 28,

[451-600] = 11529, among which 4528 are from Aug 12-28.

ASSUME still 47% will be [466-600], then:
[466-600] = 4528*47% = 2128
[451-465] = 2400 new + 7001 old = 9401

SUPPOSE:
1) all the [451-465] from July 24 - Aug 12 are [460-465], i.e. [460-465] = 3011;
2) all the [451-465] from Aug 12-28 are [460-465], i.e. [460-465] = 2400;
(which are both the worst cases) then:

By Aug 28, distribution will be:
[600+] = 752;
[466-600] = 2128;
[460-465] = 3011 + 2400 = 5411 at most;
[451-459] = 3990 at least (left from July 24 draw).

So if 3600 ITA, Aug 28 draw will clear 3600 - 752 - 2128 = 720 of [460-465] which is 13.3% of the 5411 [460-465].

SUPPOSE profile distribution of each score is even, then cut off will be
465 - 6*13.3% = 465 - 0.80 = 465 with about 20% [465] left in the pool.

Since these [465] are all added after July 24, and SUPPOSE equal [465] profiles everyday in the 35 days, then tiebreaker will be Aug 28 - (35*20%) = ~ Aug 20-21.

And leaves in the pool,
[460-465] = 4691
[451-459] = 3990.

And this is still almost the worst case.

(If 3900 ITA, cut-off will be 464 with only 13% of [464] cleared, i.e. tiebreaker will be ~July 28. Still not much a difference.)

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So my predictions are:

If nothing changes significantly (e.g. massive influx of [466+] etc.)

Aug 21 draw with 3600 ITA:
Cut-off NO HIGHER THAN 463 with tiebreaker around Aug 13;

Aug 21 draw with 3900 ITA (very unlikely):
Cut-off NO HIGHER THAN 462 with tiebreaker around July 28;

Aug 28 draw with 3600 ITA:
Cut-off NO HIGHER THAN 465 with tiebreaker around Aug 20;

Aug 28 draw with 3900 ITA (very unlikely):
Cut-off NO HIGHER THAN 464 with tiebreaker around July 28.

Remember these predictions are based on almost the worst scenarios and that’s why I highlighted ‘no higher than’.

However, sadly, it does seem that cut-off will remain at 460+ by mid Sep. For people with 458 and 459, the 2nd FSW draw of Sep might be the closest chance. Or maybe even later. As many agree there might be some uncertainties from Oct onwards because of the election, if one wants to receive an ITA before end of Sep, 460+ seems safer.

Considering the majority of OINP tech draw haven’t got their 600 pts by far, if most OINP tech draw got their approvals in Sep, even 460 might not be safe by Sep.
 
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Date & Draw Size #

August 21, 2019

3600

September 4, 2019

3600

September 18, 2019

3600

September 23, 2019 – Monday FST draw

500

October 2, 2019

3600

October 16, 2019

3600

October 30, 2019

3600

November 13, 2019

3600

November 27, 2019

3900

December 11, 2019

3900

December 23, 2019 – Monday

3900


For 2019 - (3900*5) + (3350*10) + (3600*10) + (500+500) = 90, 000 ITA’s - Almost same as 2018
 

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Hey everyone.
Please see if someone can clear my doubt. Some people are saying we can show just one bank account with sufficient funds even if we have multiple lesser used bank accounts
But as www.canada.ca website mentions-

include, for each current bank and investment account, the
  • account numbers
  • date each account was opened
  • current balance of each account
  • average balance for the past 6 months
I think we need to show each and every bank account we have. My other bank accounts are in my hometown and I will have to go specially for these, that's why this question.
Afterall I need to keep scheduling stuff while all this waiting for ITA. I am at 448 currently. But my points will increase in October due to work experience.
What say guys?
 

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Hey everyone.
Please see if someone can clear my doubt. Some people are saying we can show just one bank account with sufficient funds even if we have multiple lesser used bank accounts
But as www.canada.ca website mentions-

include, for each current bank and investment account, the
  • account numbers
  • date each account was opened
  • current balance of each account
  • average balance for the past 6 months
I think we need to show each and every bank account we have. My other bank accounts are in my hometown and I will have to go specially for these, that's why this question.
Afterall I need to keep scheduling stuff while all this waiting for ITA. I am at 448 currently. But my points will increase in October due to work experience.
What say guys?
one account or FDR with sufficient funds will do, as long as you have required funds in one account, you can choose to not show others. All accounts info is required if your required funds are scattered in all of them.
 
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please help

i didn't claim points for my husband's education since he didn't get an CEA and he doesn't have any work experience in Canada.
while filling the forms i put his work and education in personal history and i mentioned in the education history that he doesn't have CEA and his work history i put no .


now i have doubts . shoud i upload his credentials? he lost them
should i upload his reference letters?
 

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i didn't claim points for my husband's education since he didn't get an CEA and he doesn't have any work experience in Canada.
while filling the forms i put his work and education in personal history and i mentioned in the education history that he doesn't have CEA and his work history i put no .


now i have doubts . shoud i upload his credentials? he lost them
should i upload his reference letters?
To the best of my knowledge the answer is No. Since you were/are not claiming any points for your husband education or work experience then no documents are required to prove any personal history
 

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CURRENT INTERNAL CRS TRACKER STATUS
CRS summary of active members waiting for Golden ITA (updated on August 12):-
  • 460+ (Total 03): | Harsha009: 463 | Sumedh: 462 | Rose1207: 460 |
  • 455-460 (Total 61) – | nogachan301185: 459 | ExpressMan: 459 | Punit Singh: 459 | atuls: 459 | mehr_ibrahim: 459 | jaibajrangbali: 459 | imusi: 458 | Khanstan: 458 | Barinderpal: 458 | Kathy.m: 458 | SimAneja: 458 | hungta: 458 | MuibKhan: 458 | chirkut: 458 | Kenneth89: 458 | Herlo: 458 | vivi153: 458 | Dhaval Trivedi: 458 | jollystripes: 458 | jjk505: 458 | bhanu1986: 458 | Canucksrajiv: 458 | Milanarora: 457 | jamlabhai: 457 | #EEC: 457 | Priyasehgal22: 457 | sahils123: 457 | Hope457: 457 | diaju:457 | vinoth388: 457 | y996: 457 | cromaine: 457 | Twindream: 457 | yg96: 457 | cino86: 456 | Gsaggy: 456 | Teenz: 456 | PrasadK: 456 | Silverwitch: 456 | tharibak: 456 | royalking: 456 | phuketlove: 456 | SimonSaleh: 456 | Jasmine1998: 456 | brick8899: 456 | Angel1113: 456| missusd:456 | Akshay10: 456 | Ishakharub: 456 | blessedveev: 456 | Maya53: 456 | Mitya-kun:456 | Sara890: 455 | Eddiesol: 455 | yigitsk: 455 | merlz: 455 | Manish Patel: 455 | Dream Come-True: 455 | Harsha009: 455 | ruha: 455 | dreamcanada0224: 455 |
  • 454-450 (Total 48) - nadal87: 454 | abdulkhadar.moh: 454 | chirag171987: 454 | SG1507: 454 | Mspa: 454 | SASH8288: 454 | thatguy1: 454 | ArsheyaBegum: 454 | itas: 454 | strawy96: 453 | Sindhuja Karthikeyan: 453 | vivosvoco: 453 | jricardobt: 453 | guyshir: 453 | Tivativalu: 452 | daughty: 452 | Suhasrs: 452 | drrakeshdent: 452 | Catnat: 451 | Woqi114: 451 | cdddelhi: 451 | Bageshree: 451 | captainUT: 451 | tonydlaw24: 451 | Sharath957: 451 | nehadeep: 450 | jkaur95: 450 | shamu2013: 450 | hakweye: 450 | parvin2019: 450 | ekta29: 450 | skg1988: 450 | mamuso: 450 | vmsanthosh.chn: 450 | akm_11: 450 | anusha1712: 450 | mominmalik5: 450 | mandiebraxton: 450 | xyz2017: 450 | Avmaia: 450 | kuljeetklf: 450 | Ranjitrip: 450 | Hasrat123: 450 | JamesKang: 450 | AtitudeAdjustment: 450 | deepika450: 450 |
  • 445-449 (Total 62) - Div_newbie:449 | veritas1994: 449 | dappy9: 449 | Manru:449 | AnkitaShukla: 449 | a.altigani: 449 | IndianFam: 449 | prsingh: 449 | SanjibSaha: 449 | kvaram_62: 449 | nitinkalra07: 449 | Sreedev83: 449 | ssimmigration19: 449 | os32: 449 | patel_d07: 448 | EnthuChap: 448 | shine04: 448 | Agarwalparesh26: 448 | AmeyaGodbole: 448 | Tilly3: 448 | M2a3r4y5a6m: 448 | SimonSaleh: 448 | Hydowwu: 448 | msgill88:448 | Lazybug: 448 | NMS@: 448 | panchalch2: 448 | Dewdrops1502: 448 | adil_0262: 448 | Shanky1202: 448 | Aartavsharma: 448 | ArsheyaBegum: 447 | matteis:447 | D'trox: 447 | Noopur_23: 447 | Ravi_15: 447 | Meer85: 447 | Flowerview: 447 | armaanwadhwa: 447| nikki1992: 447 | Saial: 447 | shaunk_redemption: 447 | Brian_natt: 447 | infectious: 447 | sehgaljps: 447 | Stakesarehigh28: 447 | ExpressMan: 447 | Not_Your_Donkey_Kong: 446 | Rafahul: 446 | Reet_123: 446 | Kk1234:446 | MynameisMTS: 446 | RochelleAlford: 446 | rahulkraju: 446 | epema.kz: 446 | prince_lords:445 | frightenedpanda: 445 | dawak: 445 | nolimits7405: 445 | Boluwaduro: 445 | asad_ali_awan: 445 | MittalM: 445 | siataheri:445 | IeltsDream2019: 445
  • 441-444 (Total 40)- Shaanoh: 444 | NikSharma01:444 | NishaKirthi: 444 | Sonammahajan: 444 | mominmalik5: 444 | kadeed:444 | Jms_16: 444 | v_nitesh_k: 444 | nns14: 444 | Rohanisha: 444 | Ainpeespirant: 443 | MzBAH: 443 | gmi3001:443 | pursuit: 443 | sidra91: 443 | rharmon: 443 | seff786: 443 | seff786: 443| Lena32: 443 | aloobharta01:442 | Kiamin: 442 | tani: 442 | MV18: 442 | Dirup: 442 | tonyzz: 442 | Shishir Chandra Kumar: 441 | SociallyAwkward: 441 | BumbleFrisbee: 441 | Ram89: 441 | intels: 441 | Maalee: 441 | SJ24: 441 | anandthepilot: 441 | beluluba: 441 | Mukeshprasada: 441 | akhil994: 441 | Priya85: 441 | hardeepSingh: 441 | Sony K Koshy: 441 | WantToImmigrate: 441 | os32: 441
  • 435-440 (Total 17) - bluehorse:440 | Tamilan8: 440 | Chavoshhh: 440 | ppa: 440 | rovar473: 440 | Siddharth-BOM: 438 | cadiee:438 | :438 | Sara1981:438 | rdj08: 438 | Nidsy: 438 | ghvijay: 438 | Vive: 438 | Kiamin: 437 | Sam0301: 437 | sheikh.abaz: 435 | Hemilshah80: 435
  • Below 435 (Total 6) - Life79: 432 | kumsa83: 432 | Day2203: 431 | moto90: 424 | AND IND: 423 | Sdabas: 421
Please share your updated CRS score if you're not included in this list.
mine is 459 too applied may 31st
 
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keyur sharma

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AOR Received.
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VISA ISSUED...
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Even if anything is going to change,It's not going to be immediately,any party thaat assume office in nov will still have to study the situation.if anything is gonna change that will be nxt year
Even if liberals won still they will reduce the number because 65% Canadians are against Immigration and they have to listen Canadians if they don’t than they won’t win again
 

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To the best of my knowledge the answer is No. Since you were/are not claiming any points for your husband education or work experience then no documents are required to prove any personal history
+1, no proof for personal history.
 

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Hi all,

I need your advice guys, I have 1 year experience on an open work permit, anyone know if I can consider my job offer and add it to my profile if it's from the same employer even if it's without LMIA?
No you can't. Your employer did not apply for a LMIA for you and also your job offer is not LMIA exempt, hence it does not meet the requirements for express entry..

The job offer that got you hired does not apply here. You may only use the points you get from your 1 year experience.